How Do You Fade This Move?
- Thread starter cuetechasaurus
- Start date
Tell him it's loss of game to deliberately prevent the cluster from being opened by stopping the moving cue ball. If he argues, pick up all 4 balls on the table, and arrange them against a rail so the 6 isn't even visible. Hand him the CB back and say "I fouled. Ball in hand to you. We're both on one." He should understand at that point that the only possible way to equitably deal with his deliberate changing of the outcome of the shot is with a loss of game penalty.
-Andrew
-Andrew
You have to ask your self......
What would Chuck Norris do? After that question is answered everything should be clear.
Loss of game, and a drop kick to the head.
What would Chuck Norris do? After that question is answered everything should be clear.
Loss of game, and a drop kick to the head.
Since the opponent is the ref when there's no ref, you can tell him doing something like that is considered unsportsmanlike conduct and a loss of game. When he complains which he will, ask him why he thinks it's fair to do that, when you're supposed to let the balls stop rolling even on a foul. Then tell him that since it's the first offense, you will agree to finish the rack, but only after you get to roll a ball into the cluster to break it up and THEN you get to take ball in hand. Other than that, I have no idea unless you want to just grab the money off the light.
If it's in a tournament, like someone else said, hope that the TD has a clue.
What a good question though. Crappy situation to find yourself in.
If it's in a tournament, like someone else said, hope that the TD has a clue.
What a good question though. Crappy situation to find yourself in.
B L
Yeah, there should be a T shirt that says, "What would JohnnyT do?
In this case, JohnnyT might pull off his shoe and sock and slip the cue ball into his sock and give his opponent one quick smack on the forehead. That was BL (before lawsuits).
JoeyA
ShootingArts said:
Yeah, there should be a T shirt that says, "What would JohnnyT do?
In this case, JohnnyT might pull off his shoe and sock and slip the cue ball into his sock and give his opponent one quick smack on the forehead. That was BL (before lawsuits).
JoeyA
Since your opponent doesn't give a damn about the rules just go ahead and spread the balls out in a nice stop-shot pattern, run them out and say "rack 'em B@#$%". I'm sure he won't mind and if he does.....pull out your pistol and shoot him straight in the face. 
Yeah, I've got a real short fuse for those that don't play by the rules. Have a nice day!
Yeah, I've got a real short fuse for those that don't play by the rules. Have a nice day!
GADawg said:
There is no way a "good" ref would simply give the player BIH after a move like this. 1 game in the short races in the Open event with $12,000 first place there is no way you can allow someone to do something like this and actually and force the incomming player to play a breakout on balls that would otherwise have been unclustered by the cueball on the foul.
Either the incomming player should be allowed to place the cluster of balls in an area he thinks the balls would have settled and then shoot from there or it should simply be a loss of game.
NEVER on a foul should either player so much as touch the cueball while it is still moving on a foul, wait the 2 seconds for the ball to stop or lose the game. That SHOULD be the rule in the BCA handbook.
That is loss of game. If you were playing 8ball and the person shooting the 8 misses the pocket and right before it rolls into another pocket he stops it with his hand. Would that be a simple BIH? The line is cut off as soon as someone deliberately messes with the playing surface.
ShootingArts said:
I'd take ball, miss the 6-ball and make sure the QB was coming right at the cluster. If the QB was going to hit the cluster I'd pick it up and hand it to him. If he said something...well you all know what comes next, and it ain't going to the TD. Johnnyt
Last edited:
Johnnyt said:
Great minds think alike Johnny!! That's basically what I said....:thumbup:
"JohnnyT says - "KILL THE M'F'ER"
I would consider shooting at the six with an angle to go into the cluster. Then just before the cue ball hits the cluster, grab it and hand it to your A-Hole opponent......."
I believe this situation is where the idea for the measles cue ball came from. After a few strikes to the side of the head, there should be a nice pattern starting to form on the cue ball. After he passes out, you automatically win by forfeit. Therefore, you collect your money, and leave him cab fare to get home.
Disclaimer.... I in no way condone violence of any sort in pool. Anyone who trys this tactic to win their match is on their own, and I will not be held responsible.
IMO... If I were running the tourney {or owned the room you were gambling in} and this was brought to my attention for a ruling, I'd have to ask any spectators for their opinion. {Providing he would not admit to it} If someone other than your best friend or brother said it was gonna hit the cluster, it's loss of game. And a warning to let the ball finish rolling at all times. If no one else saw what happened, I'd tell you to shoot the 6 in, and give him ball in hand and make him deal with the cluster. And he would still get one warning, before I sent him out the door.
Disclaimer.... I in no way condone violence of any sort in pool. Anyone who trys this tactic to win their match is on their own, and I will not be held responsible.
IMO... If I were running the tourney {or owned the room you were gambling in} and this was brought to my attention for a ruling, I'd have to ask any spectators for their opinion. {Providing he would not admit to it} If someone other than your best friend or brother said it was gonna hit the cluster, it's loss of game. And a warning to let the ball finish rolling at all times. If no one else saw what happened, I'd tell you to shoot the 6 in, and give him ball in hand and make him deal with the cluster. And he would still get one warning, before I sent him out the door.
Put the cue back where it was when he first made the shot, and tell him it's still his turn and to shoot it again, because you don't play that way, and neither is HE! If he refuses, end the game and start a new game...with YOU breaking!
Glen
Glen
naw, just tell him to roll the cue ball into the cluster at a decent speed and break them up and you get ball in hand, just like if he hadnt picked up the ball.
after all he could have made an impulse move and made a fair mistake. this corrects it. why all the hostility?
after all he could have made an impulse move and made a fair mistake. this corrects it. why all the hostility?
What you should of done is grab all the balls and start racking the next rack. When he questions you just say, you intentially fouled which is loss of game and finish racking.
I've done the same thing when my opponent pulled an obvious shark move, and responded with that is one unsportsmanlike penalty, the next one is loss of match.
I've done the same thing when my opponent pulled an obvious shark move, and responded with that is one unsportsmanlike penalty, the next one is loss of match.