How Do You Get Out From Here?

Try running into the 9 and accepting what you get on the 8. It might be possible to miss the 9 with draw, but the paths after that are hard.

What can work here for position is dependent on the exact positions of the balls. With the bank, you eliminate that uncertainty but the shot is much harder.
 
If your skill level is up to it you can hit the 7 with low right and go 3 rails.
But if the big cheese is on the line I would as suggested above run into the 9 and hope for a shot on the 8 or play a good safety on the 8.
 
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Slight stun off the 7 to go between the 8 and 9 and leave the cue ball just off the cushion from a soft hit. Play the long pot on the 8 into the top left and the 9 into the bottom right.
 
For me, I'd be considering the possible scratch in the bottom left corner off the 9 but I don't see any other way than to run into it. So to avoid the scratch, I'd play it with lots of topspin with medium/ soft speed to get the cb rolling ASAP and as straight as possible off the 9 and off the bottom rail. The idea is to hopefully generate enough roll to bring the cb back high enough to be able to see a shot on the 8 in the left corner pocket, even if it winds up on the right side of the table. A touch of outside might help but it's a must to roll the cb in this shot.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Try running into the 9 and accepting what you get on the 8. It might be possible to miss the 9 with draw, but the paths after that are hard.

What can work here for position is dependent on the exact positions of the balls. With the bank, you eliminate that uncertainty but the shot is much harder.
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^^^ This ^^^
 
Bob Jewett said:
Try running into the 9 and accepting what you get on the 8. It might be possible to miss the 9 with draw, but the paths after that are hard.
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Patrick Johnson said:
That's my choice too. With draw you'll get above the 8 with almost any hit on the 9.
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After taking a closer look I think the 90-degree carom angle off the 7 (dotted line) almost misses the 9, so the CB can't be drawn off the 7-9 above the 8. But that means the 9 can be avoided with draw, so I might try to draw with some inside to come around like this.

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Patrick Johnson said:
After taking a closer look I think the 90-degree carom angle off the 7 (dotted line) almost misses the 9, so the CB can't be drawn off the 7-9 above the 8. But that means the 9 can be avoided with draw, so I might try to draw with some inside to come around like this.

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I think that's a possible shot, but if someone played it in the US Open and got perfect on the 8, it would likely make the highlight reel.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
After taking a closer look I think the 90-degree carom angle off the 7 (dotted line) almost misses the 9, so the CB can't be drawn off the 7-9 above the 8. But that means the 9 can be avoided with draw, so I might try to draw with some inside to come around like this.

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Having tried the shot a few times, almost missing the 9 is what you want to do if choosing that route. You want to predict the outcome best you can. With just enough speed to safely pocket the 7 you want to drive the 9 towards the center diamond. This will re-direct the cue ball perfectly underneath the 8 & leave the 9 in an ez spot to pocket as well.
 
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Not an instructor... I tried the shots suggested in this thread. I tried each 3 times, cold, no practice. Kept all shots in video, including misses. Video edited to only show the shots, not the setup. 1 min 45 sec in total length.

After trying Fran's shot with a firmer speed and follow, the CB was going way up table. So I reduced the speed quite a bit (so it would not go as far uptable), and surprisingly, the CB missed the 9 entirely, and got perfect.

This shot is super, super, critical of the ball placement, of course. 1/8" in any direction of the 9 ball placement will the change the carom hit a lot.
 
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