How does a shorter tip after cueing? Do you cut your tip short after installation?

Do you prefer a shorter tip?

  • Yes, a shorter tip feels better to me

    Votes: 40 60.6%

  • No, I like my tips longer

    Votes: 16 24.2%

  • Doesn't matter to me / no preference

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • Total voters
    66
Dear OP,

I thought of a few more topics you can start in the near future:

Has Moori quality gone down? (As a side title, does anyone have Moori 1 tips?)
Why do Lepro tips blow up upon installation?
Is Kamuii chalk worth the expense?
Should I spit on my tips when installing them?
Does a softer tip give me more spin?
 
iusedtoberich said:
Dear OP,

I thought of a few more topics you can start in the near future:

Has Moori quality gone down? (As a side title, does anyone have Moori 1 tips?)
Why do Lepro tips blow up upon installation?
Is Kamuii chalk worth the expense?
Should I spit on my tips when installing them?
Does a softer tip give me more spin?
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Thanks for the great ideas!
 
I play with elks and cut them right down before I put them on. They're too soft for me otherwise. I cut maybe 2/3 of the tip off. Such a waste :-)

I like having less than 2mm of tip at the sides... I dunno why.
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
I have had tons of problems with sniper tips delaminating and considering not stocking them any more ...................



This poll isn't worded right it should be do you cut down your laminated tips .
To me there really is no reason to cut down most one piece tips !
I have several cues with triangle tips on them.
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I haven't had any of the snipers come apart that I have put on lately, are they getting too hot during cutting or burnishing? My new stock is only a couple months old so I wonder if it was a bad batch? How old are yours? Have you tried Joes yet?
 
iusedtoberich said:
Dear OP,

I thought of a few more topics you can start in the near future:

Has Moori quality gone down? (As a side title, does anyone have Moori 1 tips?) YES AND YES
Why do Lepro tips blow up upon installation? SOME DO
Is Kamuii chalk worth the expense? HELL NO
Should I spit on my tips when installing them? ALWAYS
Does a softer tip give me more spin?
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NO IN MY OPINION....YES IN OTHERS OPINION

Saved you the trouble lol!
 
Never understood why folks do that...was at a good sized tourney a few months back, had a new tip put on and the installer tried to talk me into cutting about 1/3 of the tip off. In my humble opinion, a new tip needs to set and get compressed, trimmed/re-burnished first after several hours of YOUR play to get to YOUR optimum. Trimming it down right after install seems a waste of material/life of the tip to me. My milkduds, once set in, last about 8 months...6 months if played daily. And I rarely need to shape it, the chalking action and my playing keep it at my optimum bevel/shape.
 
Sniper tips

eddie0776 said:
I haven't had any of the snipers come apart that I have put on lately, are they getting too hot during cutting or burnishing? My new stock is only a couple months old so I wonder if it was a bad batch? How old are yours? Have you tried Joes yet?
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I called my distributor and told him , He said they had gotten wet and that's why they delaminated.
He said they where not wet when he sold them to me and I didn't get them wet.
Regardless I thought that moisture really wasn't the trouble and switch to using a live cutter as in picture above to trim the tips to the ferrule.

I think the live cutter helped , but at the same time Ultra shin tips shoot allot like the sniper tips and they are one fifth the price and I have never had one delaminate.

I haven't had any problems with another layered tip doing this so I really don't know what is up with the sniper tips ,

I don't have a picture but I am using a carbide mill end to now to cut the tip to the ferrule .
There is no heat using the live cutter and I make very fast passes.
That is about as clean as I can do a tip..


 
No joke

SamLambert said:
Well there's that! I'm curious though, why spit on a tip when installing it? Or was it a joke?
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Allot of cue repair guys spit on the tip to burnish them.

If the cue is in a lathe Paper leather your finger cardboard paper money almost anything will burnish the tip.......................................

I don't suggest spitting on layered tips ...................
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
I called my distributor and told him , He said they had gotten wet and that's why they delaminated.
He said they where not wet when he sold them to me and I didn't get them wet.
Regardless I thought that moisture really wasn't the trouble and switch to using a live cutter as in picture above to trim the tips to the ferrule.

I think the live cutter helped , but at the same time Ultra shin tips shoot allot like the sniper tips and they are one fifth the price and I have never had one delaminate.

I haven't had any problems with another layered tip doing this so I really don't know what is up with the sniper tips ,

I don't have a picture but I am using a carbide mill end to now to cut the tip to the ferrule .
There is no heat using the live cutter and I make very fast passes.
That is about as clean as I can do a tip..


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Could you pm me the vendor so I don't use them anymore?
 
Most modern layered tips come from the factory in the "soup-can" shape, thus when installed without cutting will be very tall indeed. I don't like a tall tip. I don't like how the hit feels, I don't like the extra lenght added, because I go very close to the cueball on my practice strokes. So I tend to cut the tip down a little bit. I'd say 2/3s the maximum size and go from there. If I were a professional player, I'd cut it down even more and change tips much more often as I do prefer it even shorter, but there is also cost and tip life to consider. I've also started using harder tips. I will never put on any tip softer than a Moori M, nowadays.
 
I've been playing with a short tip most of my life, so I'm kind of used to it.
What? You meant cue tip?
Boy, is my face red. :sorry:
 
Ive not had success with any layered tips as yet, but Ive been using Hard Triangles on a fiber backer for almost 30 years. I like em short. I put a tip on, cut it in half then shape it. I think they play best when about 1/4 tall.
 
Couple of things do come into play cutting tips down...

One is the impact will transfer a little better down the cue if you cut the tip down... A tip is a spring in many respects and the closer to the ferrule the compression is, the more feel you likely will have...

If you cut them enough you may eliminate some ability to compress and shorten the contact time... This may be why some players like to play with slivers.. They get the same compression regardless of speed because the tip can only compresses so much...

Towering... An extra tall tip will actually lean some thru the compression and rebound cycle more than a shorter tip... This should be minimal to the way the cueball comes off the cue but the human machine is adept at doing things and detecting things that some say we shouldn't be able to do...

As far as consistency on a layered vs single layered.. The Ki-Techs will be a little softer if you cut them down.. We harden the outside of the tips with a chemical treatment to help with break in... BUT as soon as the Ki-Tech gets impacted with chalk and the fibers lay down it will test the same on durometer and COR reading as it did tall... Well unless you cut it down to a sliver then it will likely read higher on both once it's set back in.....
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
I called my distributor and told him , He said they had gotten wet and that's why they delaminated.
He said they where not wet when he sold them to me and I didn't get them wet.
Regardless I thought that moisture really wasn't the trouble and switch to using a live cutter as in picture above to trim the tips to the ferrule.

I think the live cutter helped , but at the same time Ultra shin tips shoot allot like the sniper tips and they are one fifth the price and I have never had one delaminate.

I haven't had any problems with another layered tip doing this so I really don't know what is up with the sniper tips ,

I don't have a picture but I am using a carbide mill end to now to cut the tip to the ferrule .
There is no heat using the live cutter and I make very fast passes.
That is about as clean as I can do a tip..


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Nice looking installs Mike....
 
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