How does Allison Fisher aim?

she has such good cue ball control she doesnt need an aiming system:yikes:
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high probably

most likely a combination of fraction aiming/ghost ball. snooker players aren't big on systems, they're not accurate enough.
 
If someone does contact her via email and she sends an email reply with an explanation then that doesn't do us any good. We'd all love it if someone met her with a video camera and a pool table then posted the results on youtube etc.

Of course Allison would have to agree to all of this.

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most likely a combination of fraction aiming/ghost ball. snooker players aren't big on systems, they're not accurate enough.

Probably those two. I've watched some snooker instructional videos and they always refer back to fractional ball aiming and ghost ball. There's also line of aim which I've seen.
 
I think if your stroke mechanics are perfect, like an Iron Willie, then aiming isn't much of an issue. IMO
 
I think if your stroke mechanics are perfect, like an Iron Willie, then aiming isn't much of an issue. IMO

You know what's really funny about this statement?

Iron Willie was built to show that EVEN IF you were perfectly lined up you could still miss due to high deflection caused by your shaft's orientation.

So by that concept you could have PERFECT stroke mechanics and still miss if you are aimed wrong.

In fact I just did a 30 minute video demonstrating this. Will be uploaded later.
 

She explains the fraction ball covering method that is popular in snooker with a little Back of the Ball thrown in and falls back on good old Ghost Ball at the end to explain the concept to beginners.

Perfect for you Duckie. You should send her an "Arrow". :-)

The BAT is another of the plethora of GB devices out there. Very useful for beginners. More advanced players prefer to graduate from GB.
 
You know people wanted to have some idea of how she aimed.

I find something that gives some insight into this and a little clip of the BAT to give some the idea about it.

All you want to do is start a flame war by now stalking me.

Go to hell.
 
You know people wanted to have some idea of how she aimed.

I find something that gives some insight into this and a little clip of the BAT to give some the idea about it.

All you want to do is start a flame war by now stalking me.

Go to hell.

Not at all, just describing what she described. Using GB is the easiest way to talk aiming to a beginner. It's accurate, is diagrammable and the devices used to teach it can be made easily and are plentiful.

Steve Davis has a video out there teaching fractional aiming or covering. Others teach the farthest point from the pocket which is the back of the ball.

I'd say Allie falls squarely into snooker aiming techniques given her snooker background.

Also sincerely thank you for digging up the articles.
 
I'm just curious b/c she pockets balls pretty darn good.
I see where she has credited her coach Frank Callan for much of her early success. Frank wrote a book that includes a chapter on aiming (although it's titled "Potting").
 
You know what's really funny about this statement?

Iron Willie was built to show that EVEN IF you were perfectly lined up you could still miss due to high deflection caused by your shaft's orientation.

So by that concept you could have PERFECT stroke mechanics and still miss if you are aimed wrong.

Well, by that same logic you could have perfect mechanics and perfect aim and still miss. If your cue deflects differently than you expect, you will miss either with a perfect stroke, or with a perfect aiming system, or both.

The point I'm throwing out there is that misses are due more to sub-par strokes than to sub-par aim. If you had an Iron Willie stroke your cue ball delivery would be consistent and you would quickly dial in where you had to hit the object ball to pocket it. Conversely, if you absolutely knew the perfect spot to hit on the cue ball, it would still take a long time to dial in a consistent stroke.

It would be interesting to know how Allison learned to play. I would be highly skeptical to hear she still uses any system to aim other than "it looks right." I'm happy to be proven wrong because I'm always up for learning something new but I'm skeptical. I would say it's possible top players still use some kind of aiming aid for certain types of shots that might be long back cuts or something, but that's just a guess.
 
Well, by that same logic you could have perfect mechanics and perfect aim and still miss. If your cue deflects differently than you expect, you will miss either with a perfect stroke, or with a perfect aiming system, or both.

That is exactly the point that Predator uses to sell their shafts. They tell you that it's not YOU that is aimign wrong but your cue that is deflecting too much and inconsistently. And they can actually prove it by using the 100% straight stroking and rock solid Iron Willie stroking robot.



The point I'm throwing out there is that misses are due more to sub-par strokes than to sub-par aim. If you had an Iron Willie stroke your cue ball delivery would be consistent and you would quickly dial in where you had to hit the object ball to pocket it. Conversely, if you absolutely knew the perfect spot to hit on the cue ball, it would still take a long time to dial in a consistent stroke.

I think that this is one of the points in debate. I can see your side of it but I don't totally agree. I think misses come from wrong aim depending on the shot and they come from wrong execution. On some shots it's both to varying degrees.

It would be interesting to know how Allison learned to play. I would be highly skeptical to hear she still uses any system to aim other than "it looks right." I'm happy to be proven wrong because I'm always up for learning something new but I'm skeptical. I would say it's possible top players still use some kind of aiming aid for certain types of shots that might be long back cuts or something, but that's just a guess.

Well, Bob Jewett said she credits Frank Callan as her coach. Snooker players get pretty devoted to their coaches and unlike the US players they actually have coaches whom they really listen to. So whatever Frank taught is probably what she uses. However at some point all the top players have played so much that they can dial into just about any shot without much thought. Just like you or I can drive the routes we drive every day without thinking about it. But at one point in our lives we had to pay attention to every detail so as to get home alive and in time for dinner.
 
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