How does the pool world work?

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Just wondering.

Is it really that important to have a WPA sanction? Can't people like BMPAP have a go at it on their own since they have the resource, players, power etc to do so. Or anyone else for that matter?

How does a sanction make it more official?

How does the individual pool governing body works in a country? Do they need an affiliation to be recognized so that they can get government funding and such?

I know that we are not closer to becoming a recognized sport or olympic sports then before. If anything we seems to be doing worst. Maybe one day i would like to get involve a bit and make a difference for this game. But i think even after dwelling in AZ for so long i think i have absolutely no clue!
 
I would like to see the salaries of the officials from the WPA before I say we need it or not. If all we need the WPA for is to get pool in the Olympics then we sure and hell don't need them. If the Olympics were ever thinking about pool to put in, a WPA could be voted in in days.

If they helped the players or the promoters that's a good thing, but I don't think they do anything but try to look important and take money for nothing. Are they going to pay the players that don't get paid from one of their sanctioned tournaments? Probably not. Why not have the promoter put the purse in escrow and have the players entry fees take on half of that cost and the promoter the other half. I might be way off base here and it won't be the first or last lme for it. Johnnyt
 
I think I am going to make an offer,I will make any tournament Fast Lenny approved for 10% of the purse. :thumbup:
 
As far as I can see the Pool world in general does not work very well. IMHO this is not because of any specific incompetence or corruption in bodies like the WPA, BCA, UPA etc., but for the simple reason that there's just not enough money available to develop the sport in any way commensurate into what either the fans or the pro players would like it to be.

Until it can be made possible for a reasonable number of professional players to make a professional wage I don't think there's much the current organizations are doing that really matters except for academic interest.

If and when that money ever becomes available then the way the sport is managed will become much more important. You have to look no further than the IPT debacle to see this in reality. If the IPT had actually done what Mr. Truedau publicly promised it would do, which was to invest millions over several years with no short or medium term profits required, then it would have become the de facto ruling body of the sport. It would have been able to either eliminate, subjugate or co-opt all the other organizations.

There is absolutely no reason I can see why some other individual or organization with reasonable organizational skills that was willing to blow a few million a year could not do the same thing and simply own professional Pool.
 
AuntyDan said:
As far as I can see the Pool world in general does not work very well. IMHO this is not because of any specific incompetence or corruption in bodies like the WPA, BCA, UPA etc., but for the simple reason that there's just not enough money available to develop the sport in any way commensurate into what either the fans or the pro players would like it to be.

Until it can be made possible for a reasonable number of professional players to make a professional wage I don't think there's much the current organizations are doing that really matters except for academic interest.

If and when that money ever becomes available then the way the sport is managed will become much more important. You have to look no further than the IPT debacle to see this in reality. If the IPT had actually done what Mr. Truedau publicly promised it would do, which was to invest millions over several years with no short or medium term profits required, then it would have become the de facto ruling body of the sport. It would have been able to either eliminate, subjugate or co-opt all the other organizations.

There is absolutely no reason I can see why some other individual or organization with reasonable organizational skills that was willing to blow a few million a year could not do the same thing and simply own professional Pool.
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I am pretty sure you are not the only one feeling this way.

Is there anyone who has some intimate information or has worked in the WPA organization who could shed some light?

Over the past few years Asia has developed into a pool power house, maybe it is time for the WPA responsibility to be shifted to Asia. Or maybe an Asia equivalent of th WPA then with some competition WPA will be motivated to keep on its toes.
 
There is one problem with pool is that there are bad people everywhere.

Take Guinese pool tour for example. Year after year people complaint about the poor commentating and the turn out is horrid. But who ever is their adviser on the pool stuff is just turning a deaf year.

Guinese is the kind of company that will pay Louis Hamilton for 30 minutes appearance enough money to hold 2 world pool championships!

I do not know what happened to San Miguel after they stopped sponsoring the tour. Not sure why either. But at least at that time there is Efren and Busta to watch and that was enough for me.

Why oh why do things come to this.
 
I too would like to know what it is the WPA actually do. Allocate spots for WPC? Fly their boss around the world to watch pool.

What tournamnets can the WPA take the credit for?
Matchroom, Raya, Dragon etc seem to be the people doing all the work.

Pool players still can't make a living.

So what is the WPAs business plan for the future???
 
AuntyDan said:
As far as I can see the Pool world in general does not work very well. IMHO this is not because of any specific incompetence or corruption in bodies like the WPA, BCA, UPA etc., but for the simple reason that there's just not enough money available to develop the sport in any way commensurate into what either the fans or the pro players would like it to be.

Until it can be made possible for a reasonable number of professional players to make a professional wage I don't think there's much the current organizations are doing that really matters except for academic interest.

If and when that money ever becomes available then the way the sport is managed will become much more important. You have to look no further than the IPT debacle to see this in reality. If the IPT had actually done what Mr. Truedau publicly promised it would do, which was to invest millions over several years with no short or medium term profits required, then it would have become the de facto ruling body of the sport. It would have been able to either eliminate, subjugate or co-opt all the other organizations.

There is absolutely no reason I can see why some other individual or organization with reasonable organizational skills that was willing to blow a few million a year could not do the same thing and simply own professional Pool.
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It does come right down to money. Without some big outside sponsor, I just don't see it happening.

Someone has to sell it to them and without TV and the big audience, what do they have to sell? Nobody does anything for nothing. KT claimed to and we see exactly how long that lasted.

When we look at existing TV ratings, periodicals circulations, and the gates at big events, pool becomes very hard to sell. I just don't see any outside the industry coorporation willing to pony up, to build the game. After all, what would be their intrest or goal.

If someone figures it out and how to sell the idea of an international tour, within 15 minutes they will be the governing body of pool. That is determined by player and spectator/audience participation and nothing else.
 
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