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How long must a winner keep playing before he's considered a "nit"?
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What a crock of horseshit! Quitting a winner doesn't make you a nit. WTF are you supposed to do? Keep playing until you're even or losing? GTF outta here with that crap. The only people that gripe about the winner quitting are the ones that lose anyway. Some of us have jobs. We get up at 6:00am to go to those jobs. I'm supposed to sit up all night because you're not good enough to win? If you don't want to lose then don't bet. It's that simple. Someone has to lose. I can't understand the thought processes of someone that thinks the winner quitting is a nit. Like I should hang around so you can win your money back. If that's the case then let's just play for fun and no one gets hurt.
A guy propositioned me one night for 10 bucks a rack in 9-ball. I told him before we started that he shouldn't do that because he wasn't even going to get one game. He wanted to do it anyway. I had him down 18 straight racks, and started begging him to quit around the tenth rack, but he wanted to keep going. I even told the other guys in the pool room to talk some sense into him. He wouldn't have it. Now, I'm not talking myself up. This guy was a weekend warrior. He wasn't even good enough to be C-class. He's one of those guys that probably goes out and shoots pool with his friends once every couple of months. Of course he didn't stand a chance. He couldn't even hold the cue correctly. I felt horrible for taking his money but he wouldn't quit. I quit him after that 18th rack.
MULLY
A guy propositioned me one night for 10 bucks a rack in 9-ball. I told him before we started that he shouldn't do that because he wasn't even going to get one game. He wanted to do it anyway. I had him down 18 straight racks, and started begging him to quit around the tenth rack, but he wanted to keep going. I even told the other guys in the pool room to talk some sense into him. He wouldn't have it. Now, I'm not talking myself up. This guy was a weekend warrior. He wasn't even good enough to be C-class. He's one of those guys that probably goes out and shoots pool with his friends once every couple of months. Of course he didn't stand a chance. He couldn't even hold the cue correctly. I felt horrible for taking his money but he wouldn't quit. I quit him after that 18th rack.
MULLY
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Southpaw said:
having a life for starters.
a wife. a job. a newborn.
a lot of reasons
As mentioned, many of us have lives outside the pool room. Also, I'm usually not just there to rob pilgrims. I'll bail if there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of the other person coming back and they won't quit unless they are known to me as action players that are used to taking their lumps and winning their share too.
Hu
Southpaw said:
As mentioned, many of us have lives outside the pool room. Also, I'm usually not just there to rob pilgrims. I'll bail if there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of the other person coming back and they won't quit unless they are known to me as action players that are used to taking their lumps and winning their share too.
Hu
I'll leave whenever I feel like leaving. My life doesn't revolve around giving somebody multiple opportunities to win back something they couldn't afford to lose in the first place.
I prefer not to gamble with my money these days. I have my reasons, and I couldn't care less what anybody thinks about that. The last time I played for money I was in the black, and I'm still owed money I will never see.
The word "nit" is tossed around loosely these days and it is usually used to mislabel somebody. The definition of a nit is somebody that plays when it is always a "sure thing" that they are going to win. This includes heartless players that automatically ask for too much weight - or refuse to offer weight to players they should leave alone.
About 12 years ago, Keith McCready was in El Paso and giving up the orange crush - the wild six - and he was offering the weight. He booked some winners, and he booked some losers - but he always had the heart of hundred lions every time he stroked the cue ball. Nits ask for weight when they don't need it - and won't give it up when it is appropriate to do so. Keith always offered the spot - and that is how he earned the respect he has today. There's a lot to learn by looking at that,
These days it takes more time for guys to come to terms than it takes to play the set. The loser always wants another set to win their money back, sometimes this goes on for hours. Most of the time they agree to an agreed amount of sets - then it turns into a series of giving the guy more chances than he deserves. If you lose, take it like a man, shake the guy's hand and come back another day and try again.
I remember when Keith was in my room, he was asking guys what he'd have to give up to get them in the box for "X" amount of money. Keith would drill them to the point where they understood that they had no chance to win, even if Keith gave up the break and the wild 2... lol...
My advice, tell the guy when you have to leave before you start playing, or agree to how many sets you are willing to play BEFOREHAND. If you lose and your one of those guys that believes I need to stick around for 10 sets, or give up the 6 so you can have a chance to win, take up quilting - you're in the wrong game.
I prefer not to gamble with my money these days. I have my reasons, and I couldn't care less what anybody thinks about that. The last time I played for money I was in the black, and I'm still owed money I will never see.
The word "nit" is tossed around loosely these days and it is usually used to mislabel somebody. The definition of a nit is somebody that plays when it is always a "sure thing" that they are going to win. This includes heartless players that automatically ask for too much weight - or refuse to offer weight to players they should leave alone.
About 12 years ago, Keith McCready was in El Paso and giving up the orange crush - the wild six - and he was offering the weight. He booked some winners, and he booked some losers - but he always had the heart of hundred lions every time he stroked the cue ball. Nits ask for weight when they don't need it - and won't give it up when it is appropriate to do so. Keith always offered the spot - and that is how he earned the respect he has today. There's a lot to learn by looking at that,
These days it takes more time for guys to come to terms than it takes to play the set. The loser always wants another set to win their money back, sometimes this goes on for hours. Most of the time they agree to an agreed amount of sets - then it turns into a series of giving the guy more chances than he deserves. If you lose, take it like a man, shake the guy's hand and come back another day and try again.
I remember when Keith was in my room, he was asking guys what he'd have to give up to get them in the box for "X" amount of money. Keith would drill them to the point where they understood that they had no chance to win, even if Keith gave up the break and the wild 2... lol...
My advice, tell the guy when you have to leave before you start playing, or agree to how many sets you are willing to play BEFOREHAND. If you lose and your one of those guys that believes I need to stick around for 10 sets, or give up the 6 so you can have a chance to win, take up quilting - you're in the wrong game.
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Southpaw said:
if i'm winning and your crying, my priorities aren't the ones you should be checking.
This is what I get alot. I usually play for a certain amount of sets and when the guy flips for another set past what we agreed on he gets shitty with me. MEH, people are always sore losers and I just take their money and move on.easy-e said:
exactly what I am saying
There was a time period or two I gambled for a living and shooting fish in a barrel was part of it. I really didn't enjoy pool that much in those days but times were hard and I had bills to pay and mouths to feed. On the other hand the most fun I ever had playing pool was in a long battle with a top road player. It was a very tough grind. In the end I edged him by a little playing on my home ground. Had we been on neutral ground or his home ground the results would almost certainly have been different.
Many of us don't play pool primarily to make a buck. I'm not a gambler. I went to Reno and didn't gamble a nickel. I loved horse racing and often bet when I was at the track but I have never bet a nickel in an off track parlor either. Cards aren't my thing. Wagering on my skills is a different matter.
I don't bet with friends and as I mentioned, I don't rob pilgrims. My personal choices. Everyone has to make their own and I don't try to impose my values on others. You can't and won't impose yours on me.
Hu
Southpaw said:
There was a time period or two I gambled for a living and shooting fish in a barrel was part of it. I really didn't enjoy pool that much in those days but times were hard and I had bills to pay and mouths to feed. On the other hand the most fun I ever had playing pool was in a long battle with a top road player. It was a very tough grind. In the end I edged him by a little playing on my home ground. Had we been on neutral ground or his home ground the results would almost certainly have been different.
Many of us don't play pool primarily to make a buck. I'm not a gambler. I went to Reno and didn't gamble a nickel. I loved horse racing and often bet when I was at the track but I have never bet a nickel in an off track parlor either. Cards aren't my thing. Wagering on my skills is a different matter.
I don't bet with friends and as I mentioned, I don't rob pilgrims. My personal choices. Everyone has to make their own and I don't try to impose my values on others. You can't and won't impose yours on me.
Hu
How long must a winner keep playing before he's considered a "nit"?
If you have to ask this question, chances are that you're a nit.
If not a nit don't worry about it, water will seek its own level. In other words your reputation will precede you. People will choose to play you or not based on past performance. Be it your table speed or how you gamble.
fan-tum said:
If you have to ask this question, chances are that you're a nit.
If not a nit don't worry about it, water will seek its own level. In other words your reputation will precede you. People will choose to play you or not based on past performance. Be it your table speed or how you gamble.
What I'm seeing is that there are several different layers of pool gamblers. The one's who do it for a living, the one's who have few other financial priorities, the one's with jobs (and families), old and young, the ones opposed to chemicals and some who don't mind artificial stimulation, etc....
Neither is better than the other IMO. We all do what we feel comfortable doing. I think the problems occur when family guy gets hooked up gambling with all-nighter. Then there are differences in what constitutes gambling honor or courtesy. Each cannot (or doesn't) see the other's point of view, and that's where the differences are. I don't think either type is wrong in their beleifs, they just have different ideas and opinions on what is expected or acceptable.
I'm kinda like Shootingarts. At one time I hit it pretty hard. Now with a job and many years behind me, It's hard to play all night and get up for work, and I don't really enjoy the long sessions anymore. I do still make a few extra bucks at weekly tournaments, and social sets and ring games are fun. But if I'm up in a big money or marathon game, you can bet on me. I've probably got the best of it to be there
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Mike
Neither is better than the other IMO. We all do what we feel comfortable doing. I think the problems occur when family guy gets hooked up gambling with all-nighter. Then there are differences in what constitutes gambling honor or courtesy. Each cannot (or doesn't) see the other's point of view, and that's where the differences are. I don't think either type is wrong in their beleifs, they just have different ideas and opinions on what is expected or acceptable.
I'm kinda like Shootingarts. At one time I hit it pretty hard. Now with a job and many years behind me, It's hard to play all night and get up for work, and I don't really enjoy the long sessions anymore. I do still make a few extra bucks at weekly tournaments, and social sets and ring games are fun. But if I'm up in a big money or marathon game, you can bet on me. I've probably got the best of it to be there
.Mike
For anyone that ever asks why more and more pool players are now playing cards....Just refer them to this thread.
It just boggles my mind that since I have a family and job as my first priorities over pool and can no longer stay out all hours of the night that "I should not be gambling" .....lest I be referred to as a nit.....If I set a time limit before the match starts and the guy gets all bent out of shape about me having to leave when the time is up....I would call the guy getting all bent out of shape more of a nit...Not the guy that has put a family and job higher on the priority list than being in a pool room for three days at a clip...
I can understand the claim on someone who makes no mention of time limit when starting a session and then after two or three games up they all of a sudden come out with the "Oh I got to go" routine........I Don't know that I would refer to them as a "nit" though...I would refer to them as a hustler......Since they hustled you in to letting them get up two or three games so they can quit a game they know they probably can't win in the long run......Fact is they just played on your greed...
Anyway...I have a little different defenition of what I call a "nit"...To me a nit is someone that comes at you barking for a game and once the game is set and you have them stuck a few they start wanting to "adjust".
It just boggles my mind that since I have a family and job as my first priorities over pool and can no longer stay out all hours of the night that "I should not be gambling" .....lest I be referred to as a nit.....If I set a time limit before the match starts and the guy gets all bent out of shape about me having to leave when the time is up....I would call the guy getting all bent out of shape more of a nit...Not the guy that has put a family and job higher on the priority list than being in a pool room for three days at a clip...
I can understand the claim on someone who makes no mention of time limit when starting a session and then after two or three games up they all of a sudden come out with the "Oh I got to go" routine........I Don't know that I would refer to them as a "nit" though...I would refer to them as a hustler......Since they hustled you in to letting them get up two or three games so they can quit a game they know they probably can't win in the long run......Fact is they just played on your greed...
Anyway...I have a little different defenition of what I call a "nit"...To me a nit is someone that comes at you barking for a game and once the game is set and you have them stuck a few they start wanting to "adjust".