How long will you play in a bad match before you quit?

Well put! I like your post!

Newsheriffintwn said:
For me it would depend on if I actually though I could play better and win. Going off the assumption I'm losing because my opponent is getting the rolls and I'm struggling (But know I can win). If things didn't at least turn a little to where I have a fighting chance to win I would quit after losing no more than 2 sets. If my opponent is flat out better and outplaying me I would quit possibly after one set but no more than losing two. I see no point in just handing over money to someone without having a legitimate chance of winning myself.

I think a lot of players are under the misconception that a bad gambler is a good player. Hoping against hope things will somehow turn around and just losing game after game, to me that isn't what heart is. Heart to me is a lot like courage, stepping up and doing something that needs to be done in the face of adversity (stress, being scared, etc..). To me the bet is something else entirely, some people just are not good gamblers and lack self control. Knowing when to quit is probably 100 times more important than knowing how to win. Like I said before if you don't realistically have a chance of winning (and not just in some alter reality in your mind) then its just donating. I fail to see how this donation gives you more heart?
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It makes a lot of sense to me! Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Jodacus, this is the perfect example of not giving up your goals!

Jodacus said:
I play a guy sets and he keeps taking my money, but I will keep playing. Why??? Because I am getting better and he is not. This guy gets in my head. I don't know why, but he does. I fall apart every time we play.
I keep playing because my goal is to make him ask for weight. One day he will and when he does one of my short term goals will have been reached. I will keep playing (and practicing) until that and other goals are reached. So when is it time to pull up? Not till you are ready to!!!
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Do what makes you happy. Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Hello Renfro, Thanks for your input.

The Renfro said:
I always go with the gut.... I may lose 1 set and feel like something is wrong and duck out... Or you may have me going to the ATM when it's all over... I won't chase bad money but I will chase to a point...

I won't freeze up so don't ask.....

I won't do double or nothing.....

You won't raise me from $20 to $100 when I am 5 games up or down..... Get me at 4 or 8 and $40 can be done........

I have a job. You don't have to be my payday so don't think I am ever gonna be yours....

My pocket depth varies.... It depends on my gut, the game, and the opponent.... In many instance to quote John schmidt "I'd rather be eaten by a goat and shit off a cliff than put a dollar in your pocket" especially if you have a bad attitude, want to argue, try to shark or tushhog, or are in any other way just a douchebag.......
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I appreciate your time and comments. Keep up the good work!
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Hey DallasHopps, I thank you for your input.

DallasHopps said:
I gamble for recreation. I quit immediately if the person I'm playing is an asshole. If I'm doing it for fun, and it's not fun, there's no reason to quit.
The original post makes it sound like I'm in a game that I know I can't win... in that scenario, who doesn't adjust or quit? Donating to an individual with no chance of winning isn't my idea of noble or cool. I start playing prepared to lose money, but there's no reason I should expect to lose or insist on finding a way to lose.
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I like to hear how people handle things! Thanks again.
Regards,
Lock n load.
 
The Renfro said:
I always go with the gut.... I may lose 1 set and feel like something is wrong and duck out... Or you may have me going to the ATM when it's all over... I won't chase bad money but I will chase to a point...

I won't freeze up so don't ask.....

I won't do double or nothing.....

You won't raise me from $20 to $100 when I am 5 games up or down..... Get me at 4 or 8 and $40 can be done........

I have a job. You don't have to be my payday so don't think I am ever gonna be yours....

My pocket depth varies.... It depends on my gut, the game, and the opponent.... In many instance to quote John schmidt "I'd rather be eaten by a goat and shit off a cliff than put a dollar in your pocket" especially if you have a bad attitude, want to argue, try to shark or tushhog, or are in any other way just a douchebag.......
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This view is pretty much me. I've got a good job, I'm married my wife has a good job. I'm not broke and don't plan on being that way. If I lose 2 maybe 3 sets very bad I'm done, because either I'm play bad or the weight is wrong. Either way I don't have to go broke or break someone to enjoy myself.
 
Lock N Load said:
You are getting beat most of the games in a pool match up, and you want out! How long do you play getting beat very bad in the match?
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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You should not quit just because you are losing but if the match is in fact bad. You have no way to win no matter what, quit on the spot and negotiate, anything else is just dumb.
 
IMO, someone should always come out a clear winner or it's not really gambling. If you negotiate the game so that no one has a lock and you break about even for the night, you may as well be playing for play. Also IMO, the better of the two players should always have to outrun the spot. If you keep adjusting the game to make it more even, then where's the gamble? One of the two players has to take a risky chance on something good happening to take the cheese.

But then again, I don't gamble. But I do have opinions ;)!!!

Maniac
 
Thanks for your input, Maniac.

Maniac said:
IMO, someone should always come out a clear winner or it's not really gambling. If you negotiate the game so that no one has a lock and you break about even for the night, you may as well be playing for play. Also IMO, the better of the two players should always have to outrun the spot. If you keep adjusting the game to make it more even, then where's the gamble? One of the two players has to take a risky chance on something good happening to take the cheese.

But then again, I don't gamble. But I do have opinions ;)!!!

Maniac
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your opinions are very important!
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Maniac said:
IMO, someone should always come out a clear winner or it's not really gambling. If you negotiate the game so that no one has a lock and you break about even for the night, you may as well be playing for play. Also IMO, the better of the two players should always have to outrun the spot. If you keep adjusting the game to make it more even, then where's the gamble? One of the two players has to take a risky chance on something good happening to take the cheese.

But then again, I don't gamble. But I do have opinions ;)!!!

Maniac
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I think there is a difference in player getting the advantage on weight and a bad match. I think a bad match is if you are racing to 5 and you're getting beat 5-2 or worse. That's just my 2 cents.;)
 
There is a difference between the two!

m79a said:
I think there is a difference in player getting the advantage on weight and a bad match. I think a bad match is if you are racing to 5 and you're getting beat 5-2 or worse. That's just my 2 cents.;)
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I think you are correct! Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
I may have missed it but LNL never said anything about gambling. I will play a long time if I am getting beat if there is no money involved even if I know I cant win.
 
Hey Cuebuddy, It is not a real match if nothing is at stake!

Cuebuddy said:
I may have missed it but LNL never said anything about gambling. I will play a long time if I am getting beat if there is no money involved even if I know I cant win.
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If it is for fun or nothing I consider it just playing pool! A real match is all about what you are playing for.... A little money on the wood makes the betting good!
Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
I'm not a person who walks around with cash usually; I pay for almost everything with debit and credit cards. So when I walk in the poolhall with cash, it's because I just went to the ATM and pulled out an amount of money I'm willing to put into action.

So the answer is, if I'm not playing my best and I think I can turn it around by bringing out my best game, I'll lose until I'm out of the cash I walked in with.

On the other hand, if I'm playing my best, and my best game can't win in the match-up I'm in, I'll quit as soon as I come to that realization, even if I've only lost one set.

-Andrew
 
a bunch of interesting answers and perspectives....I will play till I am either too tired to go on or bored. Whether I'm in a game I can't win or one I can't lose. Usually the boredom comes with the latter. I'm also MUCH more likely to offer weight than I am to ask for it. So, if I've won, for example, 3 straight 1P games fairly easily I'll offer weight; whereas if I lose 3 straight I'm not going to ask for anything....yet. :cool:
 
BillyKoda said:
I'll lose with dignity before being considered a quitter.
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+1

And, If I'm not winning, I'm learning if the player is better than I.

But,... I won't keep throwing my money away and ask for a decent spot. If not, I say goodbye.
 
Thanks for your input, Trusty...

trustyrusty said:
a bunch of interesting answers and perspectives....I will play till I am either too tired to go on or bored. Whether I'm in a game I can't win or one I can't lose. Usually the boredom comes with the latter. I'm also MUCH more likely to offer weight than I am to ask for it. So, if I've won, for example, 3 straight 1P games fairly easily I'll offer weight; whereas if I lose 3 straight I'm not going to ask for anything....yet. :cool:
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I appreciate your time and comments.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
a smart gambler plays as long as he feels he has the best of the game and quits as soon as he feels he has the worst of it. winning or losing.
doing other may be okay but it isnt about winning the money then.
 
maha said:
a smart gambler plays as long as he feels he has the best of the game and quits as soon as he feels he has the worst of it. winning or losing.
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Quitting a winner can get you hurt in some places!!!

Maniac
 
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