People just don't play the game anymore. I have seen you play and if you play the game you could most certainly run a 100 balls and probably 40 or 50 at the drop of a hat.
How many balls (14.1)should an a,b, and c player run?
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I don't think you can assign a specific number because it varies depending on equipment. There is an old pool hall here which has Balke Collanders with huge pockets. If you ignore the loose equipment I'm an A player - but I'm not an A player.
Two or three years ago they set up a 10 foot table for the 14.1 challenge at DCC and only one player was able to run 100 balls. I just received the 14.1 finals match between Mizerak and Ortmann. I could be wrong but I don't think either of them put together a 40 ball run during the match - and they are both world champions.
Equipment is a big factor.
Two or three years ago they set up a 10 foot table for the 14.1 challenge at DCC and only one player was able to run 100 balls. I just received the 14.1 finals match between Mizerak and Ortmann. I could be wrong but I don't think either of them put together a 40 ball run during the match - and they are both world champions.
Equipment is a big factor.
I never start by throwing the balls out and trying to get a break shot. I always start the first rack WITH a break shot, albeit a shot that I set up. Whether it is a break shot carom off a cut in the side pocket or a corner shot, I always start with a break shot.
Would have been my question too. A rating system for straight should probably be done by average run, not high run, though arguments could be made for both.
Sorry Steve, but if you're NOT an A player, I shudder to think of who would be
But your point that ranking varies widely by where you play - compared to who, is a good one IMHO -
compared to AZB in general you are an AAAAAA++
Dale
Sorry Steve, but if you're NOT an A player, I shudder to think of who would be
But your point that ranking varies widely by where you play - compared to who, is a good one IMHO -
compared to AZB in general you are an AAAAAA++
Dale
The ratings stay constant, it's only relative ratings that change if you use league ratings. The ABCD ratings are best done with doing ghost games and drill results.
If you can run a rack of 9 ball in your state, you can run a rack of 9 ball in another state, which means you can run 9 balls in rotation, and if you can do that often, that would make you an A.
If you start comparing things like "I'm and APA 7" then it changes from room to room and state to state. If the best player in your area can run 5 balls, you can be a 7 and be a B-. If you go into an area where there are 20 B and A players, your will play 7s that won't break a sweat against you.
Ratings... rankings... ratings... rankings...
My experience is the same. I have only gone through a second break a couple of times in 14.1 and have completed three consecutive 9- ball break and runs several times and two B&R in 8-ball twice (I don't play it much). I consider myself to be B-.
Taking it a step further, as many balls as players claim for HR, I have only played one person who ran balls through a third break shot. He was Jack Colavita and even against him, I scored points.
It is getting harder to find people who still play 14.1, so perhaps everybody I know has lost their edge at the game. But claims for consistent runs in 14.1 seem like fish stories.
If you played with Jack Colavita you were playing at a time when people played 14.1 and in a part of the country with plenty of 14.1 players. How come you never picked it up? I am curious why you would doubt others can't run balls, because you cant?
One guy has a vid of himself running 50 balls on his posts. I admit it is not a great run. He almost scratches on one break shot and has to billiard a ball in the side to keep the run going but it shows it is not that hard to run balls.
There are some very good players posting on here, I know a lot of them, I doubt there are many fish stories.
The experience aspect with straight pool is huge. Today's average A player may struggle to break 70 in straight pool simply because they don't have much experience with the game - they don't know very many different break shots, where to go into the rack and what spin to use, how to identify high percentage patterns, etc. They will run 14 effortlessly, but if they are inexperienced and counting on a healthy dose of luck on every single break shot, they aren't going to string many racks together.
If 14.1 were still the prevalent game, I figure my high run would be at least twice what it currently is, and I expect the same could be said for most players,
Aaron
If 14.1 were still the prevalent game, I figure my high run would be at least twice what it currently is, and I expect the same could be said for most players,
Aaron