I agree and just like I said at the beginning of this thread, the Open is fine the way it is.Sweet Marissa said:
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How many women are in the Open?
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Sweet Marissa said:
Marissa,
I agree with you. There are plenty of pool tournaments that welcome us ladies players and even give us games on the wire
. The men should have tournaments just for them. >>>>>"US Open is fine as is."<<<<<<
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branpureza said:
Seriously??
Motocross (and the boys are NOT allowed to race in the all girls moto.)
NASCAR...though I am not aware of an all gilrs NASCAR race.
Skatebaording, Snowboarding, BMX......
And can't the ladies compete against the boys in Golf where as the boys can't paly in the WPGA???
I'm sure I can think of more later.....sure, your mainstream spots prohibit the joining of the sexes....Football, Baseball, Basketball...but I can't even comprehend pools comparasion to these sports...totally diffrent.
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onepocketchump
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Well,
Men are supposed to be the best, the ultimate, the greatest, the ones who beat all comers. Therefore it follows that they should be willing to take on all comers. Everyone else, women, disabled people, and children are automatically inferior. Thus is is only natural for them to have competitions of their own to determine which of them are the best of their group and possibly worthy of challenging "the men". Just as naturally it would be impossible for those inferior groups to determine the best amongst themselves if "men" were allowed to compete with them.
The men themselves also have self-regulating tournaments to seperate the best from the others called, "B" tournaments, amateur tournaments and so on.
Now, an event that is billed ONLY as an OPEN event should be completely open to anyone with the entry fee. I find it ridiculous that the US Open would take $500 from a quadrapeligic but deny a woman the chance to compete with the "best" in the world.
The US Open will take any person's $500 as long as they have a set of balls. It's bullshit. My opinion is that Barry could not stand to have to crown a female winner. And by keeping women out of the US Open there is NO CHANCE that it will ever happen.
At least the IPT WELCOMES women and gives them a shot at the title. The IPT is not afraid and regcognizes the marketing potential when the women are allowed to compete alongside the "men".
John - boycotting the US OPEN because it's not open and because the players don't get paid.
Men are supposed to be the best, the ultimate, the greatest, the ones who beat all comers. Therefore it follows that they should be willing to take on all comers. Everyone else, women, disabled people, and children are automatically inferior. Thus is is only natural for them to have competitions of their own to determine which of them are the best of their group and possibly worthy of challenging "the men". Just as naturally it would be impossible for those inferior groups to determine the best amongst themselves if "men" were allowed to compete with them.
The men themselves also have self-regulating tournaments to seperate the best from the others called, "B" tournaments, amateur tournaments and so on.
Now, an event that is billed ONLY as an OPEN event should be completely open to anyone with the entry fee. I find it ridiculous that the US Open would take $500 from a quadrapeligic but deny a woman the chance to compete with the "best" in the world.
The US Open will take any person's $500 as long as they have a set of balls. It's bullshit. My opinion is that Barry could not stand to have to crown a female winner. And by keeping women out of the US Open there is NO CHANCE that it will ever happen.
At least the IPT WELCOMES women and gives them a shot at the title. The IPT is not afraid and regcognizes the marketing potential when the women are allowed to compete alongside the "men".
John - boycotting the US OPEN because it's not open and because the players don't get paid.
Sweet Marissa
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I don't think a woman would win the US Open, even if they were allowed to compete. Sure they might win a few matches, but not against the top players.onepocketchump said:
Sweet Marissa said:
Alright you are now offically banned from the sisterhood...don't forget to take your testosterone on your way out.
haha, i think marissa's hormone levels are fine, but you may have a little too much estrogen, what with the "sisterhood" and all haha. the fact that she offers a little objectivity is a good thing.landshark77 said:Alright you are now offically banned from the sisterhood...don't forget to take your testosterone on your way out.
and don't the men have a hard enough time making a "living" playing pool competing against just the men? they don't try to mess with the women's money, so why should the women be allowed a crack at theirs? what's good for the goose....
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Sweet Marissa
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I will retract my statement if you can name one female pool player who would beat Efren, Corey, or Earl even in a race.landshark77 said:Alright you are now offically banned from the sisterhood...don't forget to take your testosterone on your way out.
Sweet Marissa said:
Shawna Robinson!
Sweet Marissa said:
Allison, Karen and Ga Young all have a chance in a single race. Allison won a Tommy Kennedy Event the only time she entered and Karen has beaten just about all the top players on the Joss tour at one time or another including Rob Saez, Jim Rempe, Mike Zuglan, Frankie Hernandez etc.
Look Marissa, we know that those three you named are the best so why dont we tell the other 253 players to go home?
Tommy Kennedy, Reed Pierce, Mike Lebron, Gabe Owen- that's why. That's why they run the race as they say.
I just think it would be nice/fun to SEE just how some of the women would do vs a field like the Open but actually I'd rather see them play in the World Championships.
Im not saying Barry and Matchroom are wrong, but it seems to me there is room for a true Championship on the level of the US Open or WPC where no one is barred due to gender.
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Nostroke said:
Barry has a right to make his tournament men only, as the WPBA's Open is women only. If someone wants to have an Open available to both sexes, nothing is preventing that from happening.
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onepocketchump
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Okay Marissa, you can retract the statement. Marion Jones can beat all three of them in a race. There are many women on tour can beat any of the players you mentioned in a "race" to one, to three, to five, and even eleven on any given day.
And yes Barry can include and exclude whoever he wants to. I just find it funny that a sixth grader's $500 is okay but a six time world champion's is not just because she doesn't have testes.
John
And yes Barry can include and exclude whoever he wants to. I just find it funny that a sixth grader's $500 is okay but a six time world champion's is not just because she doesn't have testes.
John
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onepocketchump
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By the way - as far as I know the best free-climber in the world is a girl. She is better than any man or woman competing today.
Good thing those starving pool players aren't good at physical "sports" like rock climbing.
John
Good thing those starving pool players aren't good at physical "sports" like rock climbing.
John
Sweet Marissa said:
In case no one has noticed there IS an Open available to both sexes, and it is just a few days before the WPBA US Open in the same town. NM 9 ball Open, something like $2000 added to the pot.
Marissa, I have a Diamond with Simonis but it is walnut not cherry. Want to come play on it?
Sweet Marissa said:
What happened to retracting your statement?
The WPBA Open BTW is just another one the WPBA tournaments. Those who qualify have to do so by winning a SC but that is just a fraction of the field and the weakest part of the field. They like to make it seem like a special tournament but it isnt as the Nationals are not either.
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onepocketchump
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Only man is restrictive of his fellow man.
"The legendary rock climber who redefined the boundaries of her sport tells her story.
From the age of thirteen when she began climbing, it was clear Lynn Hill had an unusual gift. Before long she was arguably the best rock climber in the world, establishing routes so bold and difficult that few others could follow. And in 1994, Lynn succeeded on a climb that no one—man or woman—has been able to repeat: the first "free ascent" of the Nose on Yosemite's El Capitan, which means that she climbed 3,000 feet of vertical granite without using gear to aid her ascent—and all in under twenty-three hours. "
Nature doesn't care what your gender is.
John
"The legendary rock climber who redefined the boundaries of her sport tells her story.
From the age of thirteen when she began climbing, it was clear Lynn Hill had an unusual gift. Before long she was arguably the best rock climber in the world, establishing routes so bold and difficult that few others could follow. And in 1994, Lynn succeeded on a climb that no one—man or woman—has been able to repeat: the first "free ascent" of the Nose on Yosemite's El Capitan, which means that she climbed 3,000 feet of vertical granite without using gear to aid her ascent—and all in under twenty-three hours. "
Nature doesn't care what your gender is.
John
powderburner said:
Well, yes their are ALOT of tourney's that women can have their chance with the boys, BUT I believe the arguement is the US OPEN is NOT an OPEN.
Marissa- I can not accept your challenge, but it seems others did. I am just not that familiar with who beat who. I can tell you that I PREFER to play with the boys than with the girls. Where I am from the boys are better than the girls. I am one of the higest ranked girls in my area (APA) AND I SUCK AT POOL!!! I go two and out with the other girls on the regional tours. When you play better people your game gets better, IMO. Do I think Allison and Karen should be allowed to play in the OPEN..yes, but I guess my arguement is that I suck so bad at pool that I couldn't even q to paly in the Women's "OPEN"...but would I pay $500 bucks to have a shot at Effren??? You bet..if I had the money to blow. Maybe I would get lucky and actually make a ball against the BEST in the world.
I am a bit upest that my schedule wouldn't allow me to participate with the big boys at the PP warm up event. 
I've said this before and i'm going to say it again.
Pool should take a lesson fron golf.
Men have their tour women have their tour.
But if someone like Michelle Wie or Annika Sorenstam are good enough to qualify or get invited to play in a men's PGA event then they are allowed to play.And millions more viewers tune in to watch.
I don't see why pool doesn't do the same.
Women who are good enough, should be allowed to play.It can only help the sport.
I like the fact that the IPT tour sees the potential in allowing women to play on their tour.Hopefully the IPT tour will actually happen.
Pool should take a lesson fron golf.
Men have their tour women have their tour.
But if someone like Michelle Wie or Annika Sorenstam are good enough to qualify or get invited to play in a men's PGA event then they are allowed to play.And millions more viewers tune in to watch.
I don't see why pool doesn't do the same.
Women who are good enough, should be allowed to play.It can only help the sport.
I like the fact that the IPT tour sees the potential in allowing women to play on their tour.Hopefully the IPT tour will actually happen.
Nostroke said:
Actually, the WPBA Nationals and the WPBA US Open have larger purses, typically by about 25%, than all other WPBA events. Technically, the Tournament of Champions at Mohegan Sun and the BCA Open are not WPBA events, though the BCA Open counts in the WPBA rankings.
From a rankings standpoint, however, you're right. Neither the WPBA US Open nor the WPBA Nationals are given extra weight in the WPBA rankings. Personally, I'd like to see that change at some point.