How many women are in the Open?

The Kid said:
I've said this before and i'm going to say it again.
Pool should take a lesson fron golf.
Men have their tour women have their tour.
But if someone like Michelle Wie or Annika Sorenstam are good enough to qualify or get invited to play in a men's PGA event then they are allowed to play.And millions more viewers tune in to watch.
I don't see why pool doesn't do the same.
Women who are good enough, should be allowed to play.It can only help the sport.

I like the fact that the IPT tour sees the potential in allowing women to play on their tour.Hopefully the IPT tour will actually happen.

Have to say I agree with this. If a woman were good enough to get through a WPC qualifier, for example, they should be allowed to play. Then again, if neither Max Eberle nor Shane Van Boening weren't able to win even one of the ten WPC qualifiers, how optimistic could we be about the chances of Fisher or Corr? As you say,though, if they are good enough, they should be permitted to play.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I will retract my statement if you can name one female pool player who would beat Efren, Corey, or Earl even in a race.
Jean Balukas . . . . if she took the game at the same level of seriousness that she did in the early-80's. :cool:

Giving odds there, short-one???? :D
 
branpureza said:
I totally disagree with women being able to play at the Open. What other sport allows the women to compete against the men? And why is the fact that men aren't allowed in women's events not a good enough answer? Saying that some of the women players are just as good as the men kinda works both ways doesn't it? I mean if a guy wanted to play in a women's event then would a good argument be that there are many men that play worse than women? Haha i don't think so. All things being equal, how could a woman argue about being able to play with the men, when they know they surely don't want the men to show up at their tournaments. I think women at the open would cheapen the event. and c'mon guys, no woman would stand a chance at even coming close to winning. The male players are just on a totally different level. To quote Earl the Pearl "women just don't quite grasp the game"

Let the backlash begin

Right!!
Women have there own gig and from what i see on tv,its better than the mens tour right now anyway,why would they want to take a chance and get pounded like that show seigel just put on!! At philly,I see alot of the mens tour players on the tables at night playing big money matches and never have i seen a womens tour player come down from there room and mix it up with say parica,reyes,or Mccready,it would be a nightmare!!
LOL
 
raleigh

DoomCue said:
This topic seems to come around every year.

Women are not allowed to play in the MEN's US OPEN.

-djb

well its like all things the women are trying to get better. and they most certainly are. you know it might be a good thing to let them in because it would be great publicity for the game.maybe even reach the stats of golf one day. what do you think?
 
sjm said:
Actually, the WPBA Nationals and the WPBA US Open have larger purses, typically by about 25%, than all other WPBA events. Technically, the Tournament of Champions at Mohegan Sun and the BCA Open are not WPBA events, though the BCA Open counts in the WPBA rankings.

From a rankings standpoint, however, you're right. Neither the WPBA US Open nor the WPBA Nationals are given extra weight in the WPBA rankings. Personally, I'd like to see that change at some point.

Peoria was $16K for first this year im pretty sure-Ga Young got 12.5K for the US Open last year and the NAtls was the same hardly 'special' in my view but at any rate i was really talking about the field. Its the same field-No special invitees from Asia or Europe as in the BCA. Anyway i like them all.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I will retract my statement if you can name one female pool player who would beat Efren, Corey, or Earl even in a race.

Keith McCready said:
When Jeannie hit the pool world by storm, she was known as a straight-pool player, running 125 balls as a teenager. As she learned 9-ball, she got better and better, more agressive with her shots, hitting balls with authority and moved the cue-ball exactly where she wanted. She could break balls better than most men.

There was a tournament, I believe it was, in 1984 in Binghamton. I was the defending champion from the year before. Jeannie drew me, Buddy Hall, and Mizerak, and beat all three of us in our matches. I was 3 and 0 in the pool tournament and was fixing to play her. Racing to 9, the lines were that Jeannie wouldn't 6, and I bet 4 dimes on myself. She won the lag, and then she opened up and ran five racks on me, ended up beating me 9 to 5. Winning the match in the tournament was worth $3,000 for that round.

When I was walking down the hall and Buddy had to play her next, I made a couple of wise cracks to Buddy and he didn't want to hear it because he could not take Jeannie lightly either. Buddy and I both recognized that it was serious business. Jeannie got up there and left Buddy in the chair from the start of the game, had Buddy Hall 7 to 2 going to 9, ended up beating Buddy 9 to 2. That same night, she drilled Mizerak.

Big crowd, screaming and yelling after every shot she made. A real crowd-pleaser if there ever was one, and it was the greatest exhibition of pool by a woman I have ever seen, bar none.

This is pretty close if you ask me.
 
Nostroke said:
Peoria was $16K for first this year

Men's Tour
Pittsburgh $6k
Valley Forge $10k
BCA Open $15K
Florida Open $10K
World Summit $10K

Women's Tour
Carolina Classic $10k
Great lakes $10K
West Coast $10
BCA Open $15K
Cuetec $10K
Midwest $16K

Both tours have two more tourney's. (Men's US Open even's the amount of tourney's played) To date the women are $4000 ahead in the money, but.... more women have more sponsorships, and they get more coverage because of their deal with ESPN.....
I've got a ton of stuff & packing to do but I couldn't help myself... I had to do some research. ;)
 
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Timberly said:
Men's Tour
Pittsburgh $6k
Valley Forge $10k
BCA Open $15K
Florida Open $10K
World Summit $10K

Women's Tour
Carolina Classic $10k
Great lakes $10K
West Coast $10
BCA Open $15K
Cuetec $10K
Midwest $16K

Both tours have two more tourney's. (Men's US Open even's the amount of tourney's played) To date the women are $4000 ahead in the money, but.... more women have more sponsorships, and they get more coverage because of their deal with ESPN.....
I've got a ton of stuff & packing to do but I couldn't help myself... I had to do some research. ;)

And the fact they are a well greased machine and the attitude of the ladies is not the same as the men. It has been discussed many times...the men could learn from the women. Have fun at the Open. :D
 
sjm said:
Have to say I agree with this. If a woman were good enough to get through a WPC qualifier, for example, they should be allowed to play. Then again, if neither Max Eberle nor Shane Van Boening weren't able to win even one of the ten WPC qualifiers, how optimistic could we be about the chances of Fisher or Corr? As you say,though, if they are good enough, they should be permitted to play.

All the more reason to "let" them play. Let the "World Champion" of Barry Hearn's WC be the true world champion who BEAT all players who tried. It's a farce that a 16 year old schoolboy is allowed to play in the WPC while multi-discipline world champion women are not.

Efren is not allowed to play in the Junior World Championships yet Wu is allowed to play in those AND the professional WC. That's a double standard dontcha' think?

John
 
shoutout33 said:
This is one reason why I trully support the IPT: Open means exactly that...open. :p Yeah, you have to sign on the dotted line and all, but for the most part, you have to do that with all of the pro tours. Am I wrong when I say this?


YES.........
 
IF a lady could win the US Open, perhaps that would generate some mainstream press....

For now...If you did not post on this or other popular pool forums...you would not even know the US Open was going on...Has anyone seen ANY coverage anywhere other than pool forums???

That being said...I think that players need to earn their spot into the event.....male or female....Right now in this event there are players in the field that have no business being there.

Playing in a Open type event for the experience is one thing...but playing in the "supposedly" most prestige’s event in the US....should not have entries that are in the field just for the experience......and there are a few women that play well enough that they deserve to be in a field of this caliber instead of some of the experience seekers.

All this thread does for me is show me that we have petty and greedy politicians at the controls of these events.....They need to put their political grudge matches aside and do something to benefit the sport...

It is pretty disgusting to see that bowling / poker / spelling bees / bass fishing / lacrosse / can get on TV, but all we will get from the US Open is a couple matches four months after the tournament is over....(not even a ticker score on sportcenter)...

Hell even the white guy with the afro and his happy little paints painting his happy little trees and happy little birds gets more airtime than pool.....

All because we have idiots trying to play politics running these events and not allowing players to play in each others events
 
onepocketchump said:
All the more reason to "let" them play. Let the "World Champion" of Barry Hearn's WC be the true world champion who BEAT all players who tried. It's a farce that a 16 year old schoolboy is allowed to play in the WPC while multi-discipline world champion women are not.

Efren is not allowed to play in the Junior World Championships yet Wu is allowed to play in those AND the professional WC. That's a double standard dontcha' think?

John

Yes, I agree 100%.
 
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