How much does it cost to put a tip on!

dereklovejoy

dereklovejoy

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I went to get a tip put on at a local hall today during a tournament and wow. I brought my own tip in to have them put it on and they said oh we cant do that we only put on our own tips. Well ok i said how much. To put on a moori they wanted 35 bucks. you can get a moori for 12 bucks so they are charging 23 or so for about 5 minutes of work. they are making a killing.

who here puts on their own tips by hand. I do this from time to time on cheaper sticks, take me awhile to get it as good as they can do it on the lathe though.
 
dereklovejoy said:
I went to get a tip put on at a local hall today during a tournament and wow. I brought my own tip in to have them put it on and they said oh we cant do that we only put on our own tips. Well ok i said how much. To put on a moori they wanted 35 bucks. you can get a moori for 12 bucks so they are charging 23 or so for about 5 minutes of work. they are making a killing.

who here puts on their own tips by hand. I do this from time to time on cheaper sticks, take me awhile to get it as good as they can do it on the lathe though.
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Hmmmm.....I don't think so. They have to pay the rent, there's the cost of all the machines, etc. What would be an acceptable amount for them to make? Should they make $5 over the cost of the tip? That would mean they have the possibility of getting $60 per hour in revenue. After expenses that hardly seems worthwhile. Especially if that's all they did.

If you don't want to pay it, do it yourself. But don't fault the guy for trying to make a living. Maybe Walmart does tips.

JMO - I prefer to support guys like this.

Brian in VA
 
well you know i would have probablly been fine with paying although i might think that it is a little exessive if they wouldnt have pulled that we dont put on tips except for the ones we sell crap. They didnt even sell the kind i wanted put on. I bought a few hercules (theres no way thats spelled right) tips which ive been using or a couple years and they seem pretty good and now i cant get them put on cause they wont do them, and there isnt alot of people around to do them.
 
There's a chance they only use their own supplies because they dont want to assume liability for random, unused tips. If u provide them with a faulty tip and they install it, you may blame them if something goes wrong.

I've been a part of the car scene for a while and you'd be lucky to try and provide a mechanic with a part you would like them to install. They won't do it, mostly because of liability issues.

Besides, if you'd like to spend a grand or two on a lathe and take the time to correctly learn how to install tips.... then I think these complaints seem excessive.

dereklovejoy said:
well you know i would have probablly been fine with paying although i might think that it is a little exessive if they wouldnt have pulled that we dont put on tips except for the ones we sell crap. They didnt even sell the kind i wanted put on. I bought a few hercules (theres no way thats spelled right) tips which ive been using or a couple years and they seem pretty good and now i cant get them put on cause they wont do them, and there isnt alot of people around to do them.
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dereklovejoy said:
I went to get a tip put on at a local hall today during a tournament and wow. I brought my own tip in to have them put it on and they said oh we cant do that we only put on our own tips. Well ok i said how much. To put on a moori they wanted 35 bucks. you can get a moori for 12 bucks so they are charging 23 or so for about 5 minutes of work. they are making a killing.

who here puts on their own tips by hand. I do this from time to time on cheaper sticks, take me awhile to get it as good as they can do it on the lathe though.
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Just a thought----get a WILLIARD tip machine. Small and very easy to use. Good for ALL tips, even the tricky laminated (sniper) ones.

Will pay for itself in no time:)
 
dereklovejoy said:
I went to get a tip put on at a local hall today during a tournament and wow. I brought my own tip in to have them put it on and they said oh we cant do that we only put on our own tips. Well ok i said how much. To put on a moori they wanted 35 bucks. you can get a moori for 12 bucks so they are charging 23 or so for about 5 minutes of work. they are making a killing.

who here puts on their own tips by hand. I do this from time to time on cheaper sticks, take me awhile to get it as good as they can do it on the lathe though.
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First of all, I have to agree with others. The guy wouldn't use your tip because he didn't want to be liable for any faulty tip. I also have to believe his prices are based on the the price of a tip plus installation. Don't forget, installation involves the cost of the equipment, cutters, razor blades, glue, sandpaper, in addition to the price of the tip.
Maybe if you offered him $35 to install your Hercules tip, and released him from all liability, he would have done it.

Second, whether you know it or not, $35 for a Moori, installed, is not a bad price. It is actually at the lower end of the range and you will pay up to $50, or more, with some repair people.

Finally, I have a little experience doing tips and I do my own tip work for my house cues. On my playing cues, I currenlty use Moori tips and I wouldn't even think about installing and shaping any layered tip by hand. This is not to say, it can't be done. I'm just saying that IMHO, it isn't worth doing it.
 
I may be in the minority here, but I've always felt that changing your own tips is the same as tying your own necktie. Sure, if I were at a tournament and needed a quick fixer upper, I would consider having it done, but as a general rule, I've always felt that having somebody else change your tips for you is like having somebody else bait your hook.
Yes, it takes a couple of house cues for practice, but can be learned very easily. And for people that live in remote areas, the cost of shipping, labor, and the tip adds up to some easily unavoidable costs.
dave
 
as far as liability, what. we are talking about a 10 dollar tip not a 1000 dollar car part. what am i going to do sue him for a 10 dollar tip.


your saying people charge 50 bucks to put a moori on a cue. so they get about 40 after the tip. hell i need to go get a used lathe. put about 30-40 tips on and make a profit.
 
THen go for it. I have 8 butts and 14 shafts, and still I replace maybe on cue tip every 3 months. At your aforementoned rate, it'd take me 7-8 years to make it worthwhile. Meanwhile, I'd be stuck $1000+ upfront.

Wah.

dereklovejoy said:
as far as liability, what. we are talking about a 10 dollar tip not a 1000 dollar car part. what am i going to do sue him for a 10 dollar tip.


your saying people charge 50 bucks to put a moori on a cue. so they get about 40 after the tip. hell i need to go get a used lathe. put about 30-40 tips on and make a profit.
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Pay the 35. Room has to make money. How often do you change a tip.This is crazy. Why not buy equipment to make your own cue too, better yet your own table. Pool will never get better with this type of attitude.
 
i couldnt pay the 35 the guy wouldnt put my tip on. period. it was in the middle of a tourney i wasnt going to switch to a tip that i havent used before. I had some of my tips in my bag and wanted him to put one of those on and he wouldnt. I was pissed. Do i think that 35-50 to put a tip on is a little exessive well yea i do.

and i think there is just a little difference between putting a tip on and building a freaking cue. Pool will never get better if i let them sucker me into paying them to put a tip on the i dont want.
 
I can see both sides of this discussion. We have a local pool hall here where the owner has put all my tips on for the past 10 years. When he first started he charged 10.00+cost of tip. He has since gone up to 15.00 a tip as of last month. He put my white diamond tips on-first of this kind for him last month and it took about 45 minutes a tip, but still only charged me 15.00. Anyone else, he said it would 25.00/tip due to the time and work involved. As part of tip replacement process, he will clean and burnish your shaft for you-if you want and he will do this while you wait. Great guy.

I like to support the local halls, but 23.00-25.00 a tip with no shaft cleaning would leave me in question too. I would call around. Hopefully he doesn't have the local market cornered and you have other options. Just because someone wants that kind of money for a tip job, doesn't mean you have to pay it.


Maybe I am lucky
ez

PS: And this guy will put a tip on you buy outside of his shop. Especially if it is a tip he is familiar with. If not, he may question you a bit but still put it on.
 
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dereklovejoy said:
as far as liability, what. we are talking about a 10 dollar tip not a 1000 dollar car part. what am i going to do sue him for a 10 dollar tip.


your saying people charge 50 bucks to put a moori on a cue. so they get about 40 after the tip. hell i need to go get a used lathe. put about 30-40 tips on and make a profit.
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I charge from 10 - 30.00 to install a tip. Just like most cue mechanics, I guarantee my work. I charge 30.00 to install a moori tip and I'm one of the cheapest in the country. I've got over 1,500.00 tied up just in tip inventory. Many of these specialty tips will never be used but I have them on hand in case someone does ask for one. My shop has over 125,000.00 in equipment. Rent, phone, utilities and insurance runs 1,100.00 a month. Over 30% is paid in taxes. When a tip comes off it has to be replaced for free. I even have to keep a log of every tip I put on with the date and who I put it on for cause it seems as though every time a tip comes off the client says he had a Moori on it. Yeh, there's lots of money in cue repair.

Dick
 
My buddy payed $13 for a tip replacement & thought it was steep, I told him it wasn't a bad deal, seeing as they cleaned the shaft too.

As for me, I'd rather do my own. I used to retip peoples cues in our pub years ago & have nearly always done my own cue. I have to say it is a little different doing a pool cue as opposed to a snooker cue but the principles are the same.

I would never pay $30 to $50 to have it done, simply because I couldn't afford it!
 
i understand it fully. I would never debate that it does cost money to run a buisness. This place dosent do tips and repairs so much to make money as to just service their patrons. They have 15 tables and a bar, no so much into the repair. they can do tips, ferrules and refinish shaft but thats about it.

im just saying that he could have just put the tip on for me, charged me a fair price for doing so. He could have written it down that it was my own tip and that he wasnt responsible for a faulty tip. Now if it flew off cause he didnt glue it well or something then i expect him to put it back on.

The whole issue is that he wouldnt put my tip on cause i didnt buy it from him. He didnt sell my tips there. Its not like he sells moori tips but i brought my own in to try and save a buck.
 
Agree with Tokyo-dave

Tokyo-dave said:
I may be in the minority here, but I've always felt that changing your own tips is the same as tying your own necktie. Sure, if I were at a tournament and needed a quick fixer upper, I would consider having it done, but as a general rule, I've always felt that having somebody else change your tips for you is like having somebody else bait your hook.dave
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I join Tokyo-dave's minority position. Money is not the point. I have replaced my own tips for about 10 years, and have never lost one. It's part of the hobby; pride in one's personal equipment; I like knowing that the business end of my playing cue has my personal touch, my DNA, my karma affixed; and if it were to fail me, I would have nobody else to blame, only myself.

That said, I think $10 to $20, including standard tip, would be more reasonable, if you must outsource.

RL
 
dereklovejoy said:
I went to get a tip put on at a local hall today during a tournament and wow. I brought my own tip in to have them put it on and they said oh we cant do that we only put on our own tips. Well ok i said how much. To put on a moori they wanted 35 bucks. you can get a moori for 12 bucks so they are charging 23 or so for about 5 minutes of work. they are making a killing.

who here puts on their own tips by hand. I do this from time to time on cheaper sticks, take me awhile to get it as good as they can do it on the lathe though.
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If some one brings a tip and asks for a an instalation, I would figure my labor and put it on! I would not cry about a tiny bit of profit i missed out on by selling a tip. and i doubt there has EVER been a court case involving one cent of liability involving a cue tip installed on a pool cue? In my opinion it was trivial bullshit, and I would not spend a fu*king cent with them. They missed an opertunity to develop a good relationship with you, and made you shake you'r head in dismay instead? wow.
 
rhncue said:
I charge from 10 - 30.00 to install a tip. Just like most cue mechanics, I guarantee my work. I charge 30.00 to install a moori tip and I'm one of the cheapest in the country. I've got over 1,500.00 tied up just in tip inventory. Many of these specialty tips will never be used but I have them on hand in case someone does ask for one. My shop has over 125,000.00 in equipment. Rent, phone, utilities and insurance runs 1,100.00 a month. Over 30% is paid in taxes. When a tip comes off it has to be replaced for free. I even have to keep a log of every tip I put on with the date and who I put it on for cause it seems as though every time a tip comes off the client says he had a Moori on it. Yeh, there's lots of money in cue repair.

Dick
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Holly cow! how many are coming off?
 
One reason the repairmen charge more for laminated tips, they will delaminate when sizing them on occasion thus it is added into the price of installation. I'm not sure why he wouldn't install one of your tips and just charge you $15. That is weak, "NO TIP FOR YOU".
 
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