How much does it cost to put a tip on!

The guy that puts all the tips on my cues charges me $8 to install a tip. I have always brought my own tips in and he has always charged me $8. I have always paid him $10 though. The last tip I had him install was a sniper. I paid $14 for the tip online and $10 for the installation. I paid a total of $24 and would pay more. The way I look at it is - retipping a cue is a skill. A skill that I don't have, therefore I am willing to pay someone who has that skill the amount of money they charge for that skill. I have never actually bought a tip from him directly and he has never said a word about any liability. He says if it pops off he will put another one on for free. My advice to you would be to pay the man, find someone else that will put it on or aquire that skill. JMO

BVal
 
dereklovejoy said:
as far as liability, what. we are talking about a 10 dollar tip not a 1000 dollar car part. what am i going to do sue him for a 10 dollar tip.


your saying people charge 50 bucks to put a moori on a cue. so they get about 40 after the tip. hell i need to go get a used lathe. put about 30-40 tips on and make a profit.
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It is his reputation that is at stake, Cost is not a real factor. I think most people are charging 25 - 35 for mori tips. Tournament prices are generally a few bucks more than shop prices. Chris.
 
any tip some people own

jayman said:
Holly cow! how many are coming off?
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With some people once you put one tip on one shaft for them you have warranteed all tips on all of their shafts for life, to be replaced with Moori's or whatever is the high dollar tip of the week if they can find a shaft without a tip to bring in.

Hu
 
At our local Billiard room they charge $7.50 for Le Pro and Triangle installed......$10.00 if they clean up shaft also......For a Moori it's $25.00, installed...If your a regular they charge $20.00 for the Moori installed....If you have your own tip it is a$10.00 installation charge....
 
With my Williard's Classic tipper/trimmer, I charge $5.00(tip included) for putting on a French LePro, or whatever tip the customer provides. They can shoot with it in ten minutes after I'm done. I haven't charged any more or any less for the past twenty years. I've paid for that Williards about a hundred times over.....seriously.
 
I should say though, that I do all my tips myself -- including those on my predator shafts (those ferrules can be tricky... they're way soft)

And if ever a friend wants a tip, I just do it for free. Charging more than $10 wouldn't seem right for a friend -- and $10 isn't enough for me to care about making, so I figure to just spread the good will.
 
I agree that you should refuse work when someone else is supplying parts. Because if ANYTHING goes wrong...it will ALWAYS be the cuemakers fault. No matter what. But at a show I think most places are charging $35 to $50. Not out of line at all. I wonder what price he would have to charge that it didnt end up the subject of a message board? :confused:
 
I guess that the lesson to be learned from this thread is:

Carry a spare shaft to tournaments or be ready to use a house cue.:D
 
I do a majority of the local cue repair in my area. I install between 100-150 Moori tips a year. I charge $25 and that includes getting nicks out of the shaft and cleaning and sealing the shaft. I have not had a complaint in 6 years and they keep coming back (never ever sand a shaft to remove nicks). This is just Moori's alone, I do the same with standard tips and charge $15. I am told that the $25 is on the low side and have considered raising my prices but so far I haven't.
 
Brian in VA said:
Hmmmm.....I don't think so. They have to pay the rent, there's the cost of all the machines, etc. What would be an acceptable amount for them to make? Should they make $5 over the cost of the tip? That would mean they have the possibility of getting $60 per hour in revenue. After expenses that hardly seems worthwhile. Especially if that's all they did.

If you don't want to pay it, do it yourself. But don't fault the guy for trying to make a living. Maybe Walmart does tips.

JMO - I prefer to support guys like this.

Brian in VA
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Find another tip guy to put your tip on. Easy around here (Chicago) but I do my own so it's never an issue.
 
StevenPWaldon said:
Besides, if you'd like to spend a grand or two on a lathe and take the time to correctly learn how to install tips.... then I think these complaints seem excessive.
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Not excessive complaints, IMHO. Those kinds of prices are what lead me to start putting my own tips on. Prices like those are called gouging, in my book.

Installing tips is easy, you don't need to spend thousands of dollars to do a good job. If you look in the Ask the Cuemakers forum, I'm pretty sure you'll find a thread about this, or check out the Talisman website for instructions on how they recommend it.
 
Rich R. said:
Finally, I have a little experience doing tips and I do my own tip work for my house cues. On my playing cues, I currenlty use Moori tips and I wouldn't even think about installing and shaping any layered tip by hand. This is not to say, it can't be done. I'm just saying that IMHO, it isn't worth doing it.
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Doing them by hand isn't really the issue. Spending a thou or two for a lathe isn't necessary. Do a search on the forums on making a "poor man's lathe" based on using an inexpensive drill that spins and locks at 3600 RPM. It too will do the job nicely. You need some tools, but it's nothing tough to pull off.
 
man, I have only been charging $20 to install a moori. looks like a price increase is in the future :D

I do live in a small city though and people here think $8 to put a lepro on is to much..lol

Any person that has experience with any job will scoff at the rates of someone else, but to someone with no knowlege or skill in that area $25-30 bucks for a moori isn't so bad. Especially when that tip should last him a year or so.
 
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abbassi said:
Pay the 35. Room has to make money. How often do you change a tip.This is crazy. Why not buy equipment to make your own cue too, better yet your own table. Pool will never get better with this type of attitude.
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Saving a few or quite a few bucks is quite an American tradition.

Ever have a genius with a lathe mess up your shaft while installing a tip? I have... put some doggone deep dinks in the shaft... If I have no choice, I'll have a triangle put on, at least you can play with it, and be ready to go quickly.

But forking over an extra $35 to install a Moori, at least for me, is excessive. Besides, I prefer milk duds...
 
Busbee Cue said:
I do a majority of the local cue repair in my area. I install between 100-150 Moori tips a year. I charge $25 and that includes getting nicks out of the shaft and cleaning and sealing the shaft. I have not had a complaint in 6 years and they keep coming back (never ever sand a shaft to remove nicks). This is just Moori's alone, I do the same with standard tips and charge $15. I am told that the $25 is on the low side and have considered raising my prices but so far I haven't.
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Tap, tap, tap!
 
Flex said:
Doing them by hand isn't really the issue. Spending a thou or two for a lathe isn't necessary. Do a search on the forums on making a "poor man's lathe" based on using an inexpensive drill that spins and locks at 3600 RPM. It too will do the job nicely. You need some tools, but it's nothing tough to pull off.
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I understand that I could make a "poor man's lathe" to do tips. But, unless I am going to do tips for others, it would still be years before I would recoup even a small investment. As I have no intention of doing tips for others, it just isn't worth the time and the trouble. After all, I'm only getting one or two tips a year, at most.

If I wanted to do tips for others, it would be worth the investment to buy one of the smaller repair lathes and charge the going rates for tips.
 
this thread is getting funny

This thread is getting funny, funnier by the post. Some feel the prices charged are outrageous however others won't install tips because it isn't worth the bother.

One thing to add, when you think that the cuemaker is gouging at a tournament or big event, remember he is usually paying a large cut to the people putting on the event. The same is usually true when someone who doesn't own a pool hall works there. Even with "inflated" prices they usually make considerably less for each job they do than they make doing the same job in their shop.

Hu
 
Brian in VA said:
Hmmmm.....I don't think so. They have to pay the rent, there's the cost of all the machines, etc. What would be an acceptable amount for them to make? Should they make $5 over the cost of the tip? That would mean they have the possibility of getting $60 per hour in revenue. After expenses that hardly seems worthwhile. Especially if that's all they did.

If you don't want to pay it, do it yourself. But don't fault the guy for trying to make a living. Maybe Walmart does tips.

JMO - I prefer to support guys like this.

Brian in VA
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Let's hope the money hungry folks at Wal Mart don't read forums on AZ,,,

if they started putting on tips for $1.49, they would put another small business segment of out economy out of business,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL :p
 
IMO that's outrageous to put on a tip, especially when they're not even putting on the tip you want. Putting on tips is easy. Do it yourself and have the tips you want when you want them.

And you dont' need a lathe to put on tips. Hell, old timers used to put them on using just a rubber band. It's not rocket science. I've put tips on my cues for years, and I've never had any problems whatsoever.
 
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RED LITE said:
I join Tokyo-dave's minority position. Money is not the point. I have replaced my own tips for about 10 years, and have never lost one. It's part of the hobby; pride in one's personal equipment; I like knowing that the business end of my playing cue has my personal touch, my DNA, my karma affixed; and if it were to fail me, I would have nobody else to blame, only myself.

That said, I think $10 to $20, including standard tip, would be more reasonable, if you must outsource.

RL
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