How much does the condition of balls matter?
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Where in Illinois?
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Identify Undersized Balls with the Delta-13 Line
With the Delta-13 Regular and Elite, you can help identify undersized balls you guys are talking about. While racking all 15 balls, you will see the smaller balls spin......move them to the back of the rack and you will improve the break as the balls up front will be touching. You may not be able to keep all balls from spinning but you will be able to tighten those balls up front.
The reason this works is due to the precise dimensions of the inside of the rack. You can use any side to rack. On the Elite, we measure every rack on a coordinate measuring machine. We measure perpendicularity of each side, the flatness for even wear on the cloth, and the 60 degree angles. Most racks tolerance is within the thickness of one piece of copy paper. We send a print out of these measurements with every rack.:thumbup:
With the Delta-13 Regular and Elite, you can help identify undersized balls you guys are talking about. While racking all 15 balls, you will see the smaller balls spin......move them to the back of the rack and you will improve the break as the balls up front will be touching. You may not be able to keep all balls from spinning but you will be able to tighten those balls up front.
The reason this works is due to the precise dimensions of the inside of the rack. You can use any side to rack. On the Elite, we measure every rack on a coordinate measuring machine. We measure perpendicularity of each side, the flatness for even wear on the cloth, and the 60 degree angles. Most racks tolerance is within the thickness of one piece of copy paper. We send a print out of these measurements with every rack.:thumbup:
First time I've seen your rack. Interesting. Question.. is there a radius on the edges to help reduce wear and tear on the cloth?
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Yes, there is a radius on all the edges. Also, the aluminum, whether it is anodized or powder coated, glides over the cloth for reduced wear. In fact, we have pool hall owners now providing us with testimonials on how they are replacing their cloth less often, due to the reduced wear from the Delta-13 racks. The other thing we are learning is that the acid from hands breaks down the coating on the wooden racks and makes them more abrasive.
OK, minds out of the gutter please. This is a legit question
I play in a pool hall that does a OK job of maintaining their tables. But as long as I've been there most of their sets of balls are all dinged and chipped. I was looking closely at a couple of the bad ones the other day and I couldn't help thinking that surely this could cause shots to miss, especially longer ones that have a very small margin of error.
What do you folks think? Out of 100 misses from a player that can average 7 balls on a run of 9-ball (barring safety's), how many do you think may be caused by damaged balls?
As others have said, the condition of the balls makes a huge difference and a bad and/or dirty set completely changes the nature of the game. I use to play at one room where the balls were always filthy and finally got to the point where I asked them to keep my own set there.
I think nowadays, if you want to be competitive at events like the DCC, the next best thing to actually having a Diamond table, is to at least get a set of Aramiths and practice with those, because if you're used to playing with an older (smaller, rougher) set, and a red circle CB, you're going to be a disadvantage. New (bigger, more polished) balls play a little different. And at that level of competition, that little difference can make the difference.
Lou Figueroa
While use of the Delta rack in a pool hall may result in having to replace the cloth less often I wonder if it also results in needing to replace the racks more often. In a public setting I would think the Delta 13 would have a propensity to grow legs and disappear out the door more often than a cheap plastic rack.
However, you are correct about the Delta helping to ID problems with the uniformity/wear of a ball set. I'm a satisfied customer.
Jim, Freeport west of Rockford, just a roadhouse bar boxes but they do try to keep the tables in good condition.
I wonder how much of that is due to the reduced friction in comparison to the the reduced amount of people sliding the rack and balls up and down a half dozen times to get a tight rack because your rack achieves a tight rack in fewer attempts?
Either way, it sounds like a good thing. Some people are fanatical with that back and forth rack sliding nonsense. Horrible for the cloth.
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Regarding the concern for pool halls having Delta-13 racks stolen.....We will be introducing a ball tray in late May that holds both the balls, Delta-13 rack, and chalk. Pool halls are accustomed to holding onto identification for the balls, they will be able to do this for the rack and chalk as well. We are currently taking pre-orders with 20% off now. The trays can be stacked and will be very durable.:thumbup:
Hof players ,,,,
Irving Crane and Willie Mosconi would often bring their own set of pool balls to an event if I'm not mistaken.
Many pros of today request top of the line balls [as well as chalk ] for their exhibitions, I know Jeanette Lee is one of them, and I think a fewguys here on the forum take along their own favorite cue ball when possible.
Interesting thread,,,,,,,,Alan,,,,,,
Irving Crane and Willie Mosconi would often bring their own set of pool balls to an event if I'm not mistaken.
Many pros of today request top of the line balls [as well as chalk ] for their exhibitions, I know Jeanette Lee is one of them, and I think a fewguys here on the forum take along their own favorite cue ball when possible.
Interesting thread,,,,,,,,Alan,,,,,,
If there's one thing I've learned in my life it's that you will always get more action with clean balls.
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DELTA-13
The Delta-13 Regular and Delta-13 Elite racks can help identify under-sized
balls which are a big problem in getting a tight rack. Please check out the FAQ on our site to learn how to move the smaller balls to the back of the rack which will definitely improve the break. I totally agree that the balls are the most important factor in achieving a tight rack which is why we now offer our Delta rack with Aramith balls as sets. :thumbup:
balls which are a big problem in getting a tight rack. Please check out the FAQ on our site to learn how to move the smaller balls to the back of the rack which will definitely improve the break. I totally agree that the balls are the most important factor in achieving a tight rack which is why we now offer our Delta rack with Aramith balls as sets. :thumbup:
New balls
Funny you should mention that. When I had my table redone 6 months ago or so I bought a Delta 13 rack and new sets of Super Aramith Pro and Centennial balls to give people a choice in case a game breaks out in my basement. The floor is still painted concrete so I used the 15 year old Centennials I got with the table for my own practice and play. They would rack fine with just a little jiggling. I got a new set of Duramith© Aramith Tournament Pro balls yesterday to use as the default balls and it's amazing how you just snap the rack up and the new balls rack perfectly the first try, 15 ball rack, 10 balls, 9 balls or 6 balls. I knew they would, but it's still nice to see it.
Funny you should mention that. When I had my table redone 6 months ago or so I bought a Delta 13 rack and new sets of Super Aramith Pro and Centennial balls to give people a choice in case a game breaks out in my basement. The floor is still painted concrete so I used the 15 year old Centennials I got with the table for my own practice and play. They would rack fine with just a little jiggling. I got a new set of Duramith© Aramith Tournament Pro balls yesterday to use as the default balls and it's amazing how you just snap the rack up and the new balls rack perfectly the first try, 15 ball rack, 10 balls, 9 balls or 6 balls. I knew they would, but it's still nice to see it.