How often do you scuff your tip?

A few light swipes with my It's George before every play session.

I use single-layer tips, and a quick back and forth with the scuffer is more than enough to keep it rough.
 
To help impregnate chalk into a tip...

Finish shaping and scuffing.

Then chalk the tip thoroughly.

Carefully lay the tip into a scuffer, for example, a Willard shaper sitting on the table/floor.

Then pound the shaft into the scuffer with your fist so the chalk goes deep into the tip, vs. just sitting on it.

Or pound the scuffer into the tip, either way it works to impregnate the chalk really well into the leather.

This can also be done when using a tapper tool.

fwiw,



Jeff Livingston
 
I try to dress my tip JUST BEFORE this happens.

I'm not that good that I know when a miscue is coming. If I knew, then i'd never miscue & this entire conversation would be moot. Miscues happen. It's often a mis-stroke but often times it's equipment failure as well. Tips wear down, compress, glaze over, etc. All chalk isn't created equal, either, nor is it impervious to humidity. Table surfaces get doused with hand oils, dust, & grime during play, as do all of the balls when racking. The cue ball gets handled more than any other ball, and how often do people wipe it down? All it takes for a miscue is an off center hit with wet chalk, dirty ball, etc. It doesn't have to be a bad stroke at all. It only has to be the right conditions to cause the tip to slide off the ball. The odds aren't great, but every time the cue ball is struck the odds increase, and eventually lightning strikes. It's not rocket science but it shouldn't be ignored, either.

Another thing that increases the chance of miscue is the game being played and the style a player has. 9-ball on a big table requires the player to move the cue ball. Some guys use a lot of spin while others play angles. Either style can be equally effective, but the guy using a lot of spin will likely miscue more often. Doesn't mean he has a bad stroke. It only means he is increasing his odds of miscuing by hitting off center more often. In either case, the 9b player will miscue more often than a couple old guys playing one hole, bumping the balls down table at pocket speed. Those old guys may hardly ever miscue, but it doesn't mean their stroke is better or more pure than a world class rotation player. It only means they are risking miscue less because they hit soft & center. Rotation player hit firm, off center shots regularly, so their chances of miscuing are significantly increased.
 
How many games or playing time between working the tip?

What triggers you to work on your tip?

Tip pr!ck, abrasive rub, knurled steel?

How often do you replace your tip?


1. When I was using Kamui tips I had to scuff every day after playing.
After my Kamui phase I went back to Triangle and sure enough I hardly
ever had to touch the scuffer.
So, for me it's several weeks...if ever.

2. When I see the leather glazing. Too many shiny spots and I work scuff it.

3 I use the Kamui scuffer and the Best Tip Tool 4 Ever or something like that. Forgot its name.

4. Too far apart to remember. Especially if you use Triangle. Kamui was definitely once every 8 to 12 months.
 
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I used to scuff my tip but quit doing it. When I have a new tip installed I have my cue guy knock it down close to about 1/2 thickness, I like my tips to be on the harder side. Every new layered tip I have tried so far (OK not that many, but a few popular brands) are way too soft and mushy when left at full height. I like the way my Everest plays when its about 1 layer away from the red warning layer, occasionally I scuff it just to get it close to what I like for thickness quicker, but not until I have used it for quite awhile to compress it.


You could get a hard tip.
G2 hard is a good one.
 
I haven’t in 20 years. I never understood why ppl do it. The tips hold chalk perfectly without it.



Omg yes I thought I was the only one and I’m semi closeted about it.....like I feel like talking about it is like admitting everyone else is an alcoholic 🤫🧐


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Omg yes I thought I was the only one and I’m semi closeted about it.....like I feel like talking about it is like admitting everyone else is an alcoholic 🤫🧐


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Even when I happen to miscue if it glazes I might hit it with like a 220 just touch it like I was chalking that’s about it


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Once a month, maybe, and only because I haven't shaped my tip for a while. I Think miscues are generally caused by bad fundamentals in the stroke or possibly coming out of the shot rather than the lack of chalk on the tip. I chalk after almost every shot. When I miscue it's me not the chalk.

When I miscue its almost always the same shot, I am using quite a bit of spin and striking the cue ball softly with draw, I know its me because when I remind myself to stroke that shot nicely I never miscue. Its kinda like that real simple shot that you must pocket but you need to be exact with cue ball position and route. Your eyes follow the cue ball, you pulled the shot off textbook style until you realize you missed the dam ball. :angry:
 
Even when I happen to miscue if it glazes I might hit it with like a 220 just touch it like I was chalking that’s about it


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Scuffing makes a tip like suede pretty much in anything but very hard tips.

Who the #%*< likes playing with suede tips on the real raise your hand now be honest?

No one?

Then why do you scuff ah duh do wop the hell out of it like it’s a nervous twitch?

It’s a twitch it’s it lol


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When I miscue its almost always the same shot, I am using quite a bit of spin and striking the cue ball softly with draw, I know its me because when I remind myself to stroke that shot nicely I never miscue. Its kinda like that real simple shot that you must pocket but you need to be exact with cue ball position and route. Your eyes follow the cue ball, you pulled the shot off textbook style until you realize you missed the dam ball. :angry:

Blasphemy. Everyone knows it is the arrow not the Indian. A $500 shaft, a $30 piece of chalk, and a $35 tip will ensure that you will never miscue again.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
Never, as long as it's the good old-fashioned Triangle. Once shaped, it doesn't need scuffing. Chalking, with the right brushing motion keeps it perfect, no scuffing needed.

Some of the layered tips, on the other hand, so much pressing, so much glue on each layer, who the hell knows what jack-hammering is needed. A good single layer, no issue. Also includes the old Champions, Crowns, and old LePros. The new LePros, not so sure.

All the best,
WW
 
Never, as long as it's the good old-fashioned Triangle. Once shaped, it doesn't need scuffing. Chalking, with the right brushing motion keeps it perfect, no scuffing needed.

Some of the layered tips, on the other hand, so much pressing, so much glue on each layer, who the hell knows what jack-hammering is needed. A good single layer, no issue. Also includes the old Champions, Crowns, and old LePros. The new LePros, not so sure.

All the best,
WW

Right on. Took me a while to realize Triangles, at about a buck apiece, are the sh*t. The longer I play the more I realize old school is the real school. I am finished experimenting with tips.
 
I like to play with a med hard single layered tip (Triangle, Othello ...ect) so I scuff up my tip before matches. Sometimes during the match out of habit... I keep a Brad scoffer on my belt keychain.. so it's just there. I probably change my tips out 2 time a year on my player or when it gets real low. But as I do my own tips.. it's not money thing.
 
I like to play with a med hard single layered tip (Triangle, Othello ...ect) so I scuff up my tip before matches. Sometimes during the match out of habit... I keep a Brad scoffer on my belt keychain.. so it's just there. I probably change my tips out 2 time a year on my player or when it gets real low. But as I do my own tips.. it's not money thing.



why before every match....and why would it be any different if you used soft tips?
 
why before every match....and why would it be any different if you used soft tips?

I agree. Why would anyone scuff a tip right before a match? By doing that, you're suddenly changing the surface of the tip, on which you've been playing. Jesus, don't scuff right before a match... Go into the match with what you're used to at the moment.

All the best,
WW
 
I agree. Why would anyone scuff a tip right before a match? By doing that, you're suddenly changing the surface of the tip, on which you've been playing. Jesus, don't scuff right before a match... Go into the match with what you're used to at the moment.

All the best,
WW

dammit i was trying to save this one not make the lad feel dumb lmao

why lort why
 
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Never, but when my tip looks bad I put it on a lathe and make it look pretty again.
 
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