How to deal with opponents who drive you NUTS!

StevenPWaldon

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I've got a regular, cheap, friendly game with a guy at my poolhall. He shoots B /B-speed, and although I should beat him, sometimes we just break even. It took me a while to figure out why... it's because I just can't *stand* playing him. He drives me absolutely bonkers, to the point that when I'm down on a shot I'm still thinking about *his* shots.

Why does he drive me (and everyone else) so crazy? He takes a very long time per shot. You could have the simplest, connect-the-dots, stop-shot sort of runout and he's making Souquet look like Lou Butera. But wait, there's more. He has an insane pre-shot routine that takes a very long time. It usually involves shuffling his feet until they're in the exact location, taking 7 hyper-speed warm-up strokes, getting up to double check everything, and then taking another 15 short, choppy, warm-up strokes before pulling the trigger of what looks to be an off-balance stroke. I swear, this man can throw anyone off their rhythm but he makes balls well.

One day I finally had to admit to myself that this is just how he plays, and I could either let it bother me or I could find a way to cope. So I got the brilliant idea to count his strokes, to bring levity to the situation (in my head anyway). It was actually quite fascinating!

After studying various types of shots, he averaged a 15-stroke routine before shooting easy shots. For medium shots, he averaged 22. For difficult shots he averaged 26. And the highest count I reached? An amazing 30 (THIRTY!) warm up strokes. I couldn't believe it. While I was counting, I started to almost laugh. Was he really making me count *that high*?

Once I started doing this my mind was no longer frustrated by his play and I started beating him consistently.

Now I turn it into a game. I was chatting up with a 10-yo kid at the poolhall (well, not just any 10 yo kid. Flaco's son, Ray) and we turned it into a game. Given the shot in front of my opponent, we tried to guess the number of warm-up strokes he did before shooting. I got pretty good at it! The first two shots I called perfectly: 15 and 20, for an easy and easy/medium shot.

Anyone have any other unorthodox methods of dealing with irritating players?
 
Fool proof!!!

Johnnyt said:
Just don't play him. Johnnyt

Ho Boy... I just spit apple juice all over the keyboard.....I'm still laughing....

Absolutely priceless........:rolleyes:
 
IPOD! That is my solution to all irritators of pool... From idiots whom always offers unwated advise to those whom purposely try to shark you. Just loud enough to kill the access noise but something for you to drift your attention to while waiting for your opponent to get tired of pulling all the fancy/goofy air stroke. And yes, they are rather hard to fade...
 
sunnyday said:
IPOD! That is my solution to all irritators of pool... From idiots whom always offers unwated advise to those whom purposely try to shark you. Just loud enough to kill the access noise but something for you to drift your attention to while waiting for your opponent to get tired of pulling all the fancy/goofy air stroke. And yes, they are rather hard to fade...
But what if your Ipod dies? :confused:
 
What helped me...

Edited....just read all of your post,m and you do what I do, find a way to make a game inside the game all to yourself. Works great for me as well.

Mark
 
I agree

Johnnyt said:
Just don't play him. Johnnyt

Either that or else incorporate table time into the bet and see if that changes the way you feel about playing him.

I myself would look for different action as I would be too frustrated to play someone like this. He probably has adapted this style of play as he knows it distracts you and others when he plays them. Eventually nobody will want to play him because of this and hopefully he will change his preshot routine.

I know the last time I watched Archer play he was doing similar things to this and it made watching the match very unenjoyable for me and most of the other spectators as well. I think Archer is a great champion and I have the utmost respect for his game but I truely believe it was a move of some sort when I witnessed that match.
 
Nah, for this guy it's just how he shoots. Nice guy, doesn't try to pull any moves. Easy to get along with, just not to watch!

One of the reasons I like playing with him is because I know it's a mental challenge. Especially with his knack for slopping in balls on jump shots. It's a big test of patience and demeanor.

Kevin Lindstrom said:
Either that or else incorporate table time into the bet and see if that changes the way you feel about playing him.

I myself would look for different action as I would be too frustrated to play someone like this. He probably has adapted this style of play as he knows it distracts you and others when he plays them. Eventually nobody will want to play him because of this and hopefully he will change his preshot routine.

I know the last time I watched Archer play he was doing similar things to this and it made watching the match very unenjoyable for me and most of the other spectators as well. I think Archer is a great champion and I have the utmost respect for his game but I truely believe it was a move of some sort when I witnessed that match.
 
Johnnyt said:
Just don't play him. Johnnyt

Nuff Said, or as Rush would say..DITTO.
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Sounds like you want your cake and eat it too...
You say that you win $ the majority of the time, but can't stand to play this fellow.
You want to take his $, but you want him to play faster. Which do you want more?
If you hated his slow play so much you obviously would quit playing him.

I would love to play you if this kind of stuff bothers you so much.

The simple answer is: quit playing him if you hate it...
 
When I play people like this, I spend most of my time talking with other players who may be watching or if no one is around, I just look at the floor or anywhere but at the guy I'm playing.

Stones
 
Methinks you read only half the post.

Shortside K said:
Sounds like you want your cake and eat it too...
You say that you win $ the majority of the time, but can't stand to play this fellow.
You want to take his $, but you want him to play faster. Which do you want more?
If you hated his slow play so much you obviously would quit playing him.

I would love to play you if this kind of stuff bothers you so much.

The simple answer is: quit playing him if you hate it...
 
Anyone have any other unorthodox methods of dealing with irritating players?

I just calmly and quietly and continually... beat them on the table....
 
That is a ton of practice strokes. For a B level, it's a bit odd. Make a bet with him that he has to do 5 or less and see if he can follow through with that and shoot the same speed.

I try to ignore (or rather not let it bother me) what other players do. The only annoying players I have issues with playing are those that argue the rules without knowing them (like "I don't know the rule, but it just seems wrong") and those that don't call fouls on themselves and argue when you point it out to them.
 
play hard to win-break a sweat

Concentrate ( Concentrate on your own shooting. Focus on the object ball HIT. Its just like a fight you just take the money.the cue is your weapon. Its what you do at the table. mark
 
I'm going to have to try this to see what happens. Heck, maybe he'll go up a ball if he doesn't take so many practice strokes! Sounds like it could be a fun proposition.

hang-the-9 said:
That is a ton of practice strokes. For a B level, it's a bit odd. Make a bet with him that he has to do 5 or less and see if he can follow through with that and shoot the same speed.

I try to ignore (or rather not let it bother me) what other players do. The only annoying players I have issues with playing are those that argue the rules without knowing them (like "I don't know the rule, but it just seems wrong") and those that don't call fouls on themselves and argue when you point it out to them.
 
StevenPWaldon said:
I'm going to have to try this to see what happens. Heck, maybe he'll go up a ball if he doesn't take so many practice strokes! Sounds like it could be a fun proposition.

Let us know how that goes. Should be fun for all of you, counting his strokes to make sure he does not go over :)
 
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