How to force yourself not to grip the cue tightly.

[av84fun]

I have a pretty wide wingspan and my rear hand is close to the butt plate. Leather wrap.

Thanks to all who posted suggestions.


JoeyA

Joey...just to be SURE I was not somehow over-stating the case re: the lack of NEED for ANY grip pressure...I did the following and suggest that you do as well to prove to yourself (which is all that matters) that ZERO applied force is required.

I set up an OB at the 1 diamond intersection of the right head corner pocket and the CB 1 diamond away from it.

Then I allowed the cue to rest ONLY on my right middle finger. The other three fingers, palm and thumb were held entire OFF the butt and I applied ZERO "squeezing pressure" with the middle finger. Of course, that will feel awkward and is only for demonstration purposes.

But with that NON-GRIP "grip", I was EASILY able to draw the CB to the opposite short rail and back up a diamond and a half for a total of 8 1/2 diamonds or more than a full table length.

Shoot several shots that way just to PROVE to yourself that ZERO grip pressure is necessary. Also you can't possibly "snatch" your grip because you HAVE no "grip."

Once you KNOW you don't need any pressure, your mind will allow you to refrain from applying any.

Then, using your normal right hand "configuration" (calling it a "grip" is a misnomer to start with) just feel that you have no overt pressure during the practice strokes and HOLD your position after the shot to feel that you have no overt pressure after it.

I sense that you are a pretty speedy shooter and you will VERY quickly adapt to the zero pressure technique and won't have to even think of it anymore except on TOUGH shots requiring quite a bit of pace...in which case your "swing thoughts" should be limited to remaining ROCK SOLID with your body and maintaining zero pressure with your grip (because we tend to snatch under pressure).

All comments just IMHO.

Regards,
Jim

 

[Hail Mary Shot]

I have a pretty wide wingspan and my rear hand is close to the butt plate. Leather wrap.

Thanks to all who posted suggestions.


JoeyA

have you tried having a much longer cue to suit your wingspan? it might help you adjust with your gripping.

 

[DJKeys]

Great Advice

That is a good finite, physical thing that I can do when I know I am holding the cue tightly. THANKS!
JoeyA

I tried this last night and just started shooting without using my index finger at all. It is incredible the difference in accuracy and control. It was instantaneous and did not require much adjustment, only getting used to how it felt. This is one of the single most useful tips I have every received.

Rep to Raybo 147!

 

[JoeyA]

have you tried having a much longer cue to suit your wingspan? it might help you adjust with your gripping.

My cue is a standard length and I have tried longer cues but do not like the way they feel. Thanks,
JoeyA

 

[BRKNRUN]

LOL????? I don't know what is funny about the ingorance of you denial.

Let me help further your education.

"your posts make you appear as a pompus arrogant jerk"

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.

It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument's proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument. It is also used when an opponent is unable to find fault with an argument, yet for various reasons, the opponent disagrees with it. Many times, an opponent's use of an ad hominem attack is an indication that the opponent realizes that the argument itself is correct and cannot be refuted.

And what, may I ask, is a "pedastool"?...Some sort of stool that you put your feet on.

LOL yourself...iron your shorts...relax...be happy...and always remember the wise guidance of Jim Croce..

You don't tug on Superman's cape.
You don't spit in the wind.
YOu don't pull the mask off the 'ol Lone Ranger.......

AND YOU DON'T MESS AROUND WITH JIM!

(-:

I never surrendred by argument...Your chosen ANALOGY was a bad one IMO and I stated the reasons why...You chose to take it to a "personal" level by grouping my posts (me personally) with those that are percieved as worthless...(so to speak)

I merely defended myself from your attack on me and also presented what I feel about your posts...

So it is a different argument altogether...even though the origonal debate that you turned into and argument was a catalyst to your meltdown of a personal nature.

Let the record show...(as you would say)....Your Analogy is wrong...that postition I will not surrender and if you would like to debate it more (which is completley unessary IMO) ...just say the word...

If you would also like to continue this personal vendetta against me so you can continue to try and stroke your ego...(aso you have done so nicely above)...just say the word.....If you would like to call it an ad hominem, fine but just rememer that you took it to that level with your ("posts such as yours which descend into useless minutia") comment....That was a backhanded attempt at me personally and you know it....You took it down that street and I defended myself...if you would like to call it ad hominem....fine...just be it known it is not from the origonal debat of your weak anaology of the left hand golf grip and the pool cue grip....If it is Ad hominem...It is only becuase I am running out of arguments to defend you as a decent person...

Also...I already told you that you are probably more educated than me...so why would it surprise you that I made a spelling error on a word.....Why do you feel the need to point out the following comment?

And what, may I ask, is a "pedastool"?...Some sort of stool that you put your feet on.

I expect that you are well beyond smart enough to figure out the intent of that word...The only purpose that I can see for you doing this is to again follow your trend of attempting to stroke your own ego and "validate" yourself in some way as a superior person...

Perhaps what it mat show is your severe lack ability to interperete meaning...or intent....perhaps your brain works like a computer and is only able to process "exacts" and is unable to make sensible judgements, comparisons....or (dare I say it)...analogys....Hmmm...

I apoloize that I don't spell check or grammar check...I write posts "on the fly"...I don't take time to "craft" my posts, so there are sometimes spelling errors, grammar and punctuation errors...Some see that as a fault and they may very well be correct...I don't see it that way...I see grammar errors and spelling errors on (a forum) much as I see clothes on a person...sometimes they are very misleading regarding the complete background of an individual......Had this been a term paper of business presentation of some kind...be assured that spell check grammar check and many "checks" would have been done to ensure accuracy.

Since you (even though you are probably the only one) mis-understood the intent of my obviously incorrectly spelled word of "pedastool"...Here is the word I meant to use..."pedestal".....and I used it in the context of ....A position of high regard or adoration.

Now...since that is cleared up.......go stroke your ego some more....It is a good thing you have that cape to clean up after you are done stroking it

Trust me...I ain't (for those that can't decipher "ain't means "am not" It is a word that is widely used by many people but is generally considered nonstandard English) going to be tugging on THAT cape...

 

[Flettir]

Several months ago, I had a feeling that I was turning my wrist and gripping too hard on shots that required a good deal of speed. I had tried changing my grip before, but didn't like it. This time, I curled my last two fingers up so that they were above the cue and grip with the thumb, fore, and middle fingers. It definitely helped my game quite a bit and I've been shooting that way since except for the break shot.

JoeyA, bsmutz has done the same thing that I did about 4 months ago. By curling the last 2 fingers up to the palm they are resting on top of the cue and make it almost impossible for you to grip the cue too tightly without hurting your last 2 fingers. Try it and see if it makes a difference.