How to Play This? Can you run this rack?

klockdoc

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Just messing around on the CueTable. Came up with this rack that I thought was interesting. I thought it had a few different patterns here in the beginning and wanted to see others views on how to tackle this.
How would you run this rack?

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Not sure if this is the "best" way, but I came up with something like this (9 pgs). I'm sure there are a few better paths one could take.

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I like Irish's layout except the 5 to the 6 I would stun over and shoot the 6 in the same pocket as the 5 ball. I don't like high angle shots in the side if I can avoid them. Good layout though.
 
kryptonite9 said:
I like Irish's layout except the 5 to the 6 I would stun over and shoot the 6 in the same pocket as the 5 ball. I don't like high angle shots in the side if I can avoid them. Good layout though.
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what he said.
 
kryptonite9 said:
I like Irish's layout except the 5 to the 6 I would stun over and shoot the 6 in the same pocket as the 5 ball. I don't like high angle shots in the side if I can avoid them. Good layout though.
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I thought about that too. Then as I looked at it, the 6 appears to be in the rack. Just my own rule of thumb is that if a ball is in the rack, it can be made in the side. May not be right, but it seems to work for me in determining whether or not it's too step of an angle. I do like the 6 in the same pocket as the 5 too.
 
You know, it's funny. Every time I see diagrams like these, even the ones I create, I go over how I would play each shot as though everything went perfectly. The fact is, I can run this rack several ways but my primary concern is going from the 5 to the 6. I want a manageable angle on the 4 so I can control exactly how I will be on the 5. I really don't want to be straight but I don't want to be thinning it either. A nice 30 degree angle will do. If I get that, I'll get on the 6 and everything is routine from there.


The 1 to the 2 can be played a couple different ways. I can't quite tell how steep the angle is in the diagram. If I can fall on the short-side of the 2-ball, I'd probably go that way. If I can't, I'll go one-rail up table and cut the 2-ball into the same pocket I made the 1. Since I'm so concerned about how I fall on that 5 ball, I have to make sure I get manageable angles up to that point. Falling near straight on the 2-ball is going to allow me to get a predictable shot on the 3. I may need to do something tricky to get on the 4 but I have several ways I can go. Leaving the general vicinity to assure the right angle may be necessary.
 
Jude's right that your plan will need to be flexible to get out in this rack...especially with my bad cue ball control. FWIW, this is how I would TRY to do it.

EDIT: I would draw the CB off the 4 more but I can't seem to edit the cuetable to show that.

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Jude Rosenstock said:
The 1 to the 2 can be played a couple different ways. I can't quite tell how steep the angle is in the diagram.
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You are correct. It is difficult to see the angle in the WEI. I would think you would have to spin it a lot to get over to that spot. JMO

Anyone think of taking this route on the 1? The 2 is below the side enough so I do not think you could get in trouble. You still have the correct angle to come over for the 3 even if you come up shot.

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The 2 rail draw position is trencherous to me because you need to dig deep or suffer a bump on the 7 or slide behind the 5. As we all know, going across the position line should be avoided as much as possible.

If you like going "above" the 2, I would go this way instead. This way you stay on your position line longer and you have a pretty big zone to fall into and still retain a shot on the 2.

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mosconiac said:
Jude's right that your plan will need to be flexible to get out in this rack...especially with my bad cue ball control. FWIW, this is how I would TRY to do it.

EDIT: I would draw the CB off the 4 more but I can't seem to edit the cuetable to show that.

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I like your route except for the stun shot off the 6. I would try to play shorter for the 6 so that I could play down-the-line shape on the 7 into the lower left corner...either two rails (to the left) or a 1 rail draw if I fell straight in on the 6.

That way you get about a two FOOT margin of speed error.

Actually, working on recognizing down-the-line shape opportunities is one of my major hot buttons in working on position play.

Regards,
Jim
 
I screwed up the cuetable but here goes.

1 ball bottom corner, inside english to play for the 2 in the long top corner.
2 ball top corner with middle to stun out for the 3 to the same pocket as the 1 ball.
3 in the bottom corner with inside english to play the 4 in the top left pocket.
4 in the top left pocket and leave the cue ball near the side pocket with angle to stun to the 6 in the top right pocket.
5 in the top right pocket with stun to bring the cue ball over to the left of the table.
6 in the top right pocket and stun to the 7 in the bottom right pocket.
8 in the side.
9 in the top right pocket.
 
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