How would Efren run this rack?

[Egg McDogit]

I am a beginner and a streetplayer but this is what I'd have done:

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The 2-5 kick carom looks about dead. This will pop the 5 out above the bottom left corner pocket and give you a shot on the 1. you make the 1 and stun/draw off the 5 under the 9 to shoot the 7 in the top right corner - and carom the cb into the 10 if you need to. then you can shoot the 8 in the corner or side.

 

[Crispy Fish]

Well the 12 ball might cause an unwanted collision.

Ah, that's what I meant... the 12, not the 2... it's still early here in CA! But hey, if you figure the carom as a high-percentage shot for you, that looks like a pretty good option!

 

[jsp]

Efren's solution...

Okay...I let you guys squirm long enough. Here is Efren's solution to the problem...

 

[jsp]

next shot...

 

[jsp]

third shot...

 

[jsp]

and finally the money shot...

 

[jsp]

But...

But then he missed the 8 pretty badly...

 

[Colin Colenso]

and finally the money shot...

That's a lovely path to take, that I suspect can be reproduced quite consistantly with some practice. It has a pretty wide margin for error going around the back of the 10 ball.

Also the the CB will travel to approximately the ame point of the 3rd and 4th rails even if the execution onto the 1st rail is a few inches off line.

I think I'll practice that type of shot...it will come in useful.

 

[NaClBandit]

Tap tap tap.

Nice post, jsp. I like your style.

You even used jpegs instead of just the RSB threads...very user friendly.

 

[Colin Colenso]

Tap tap tap.

Nice post, jsp. I like your style.

You even used jpegs instead of just the RSB threads...very user friendly.

tap tap

We've got to train more people to use the jpegs. It only takes about 1 minute longer but saves everyone else a similar time and makes the thread much more readable. They only take up about 20 kb too.

For those who don't know how to do it, take the image from the WEI table by pressing 'SHIFT' and 'Prnt Scn'. This loads the screen image into the clipboard.

Then open paintbrush or other graphic software, open a new file and press paste. Crop the image size you want using the rectangular dotted line tool and put the table part in the top left corner.

Then trim the total imge the size by finding the blue square handles and draging them to the size you want.

Edit in lines as you need them using the tools.

Save the image as a jpeg into a file you have created just for AZ graphics.

 

[bruin70]

if that was efren's pattern, then i have to think he didn't feel good about get to the 8 from the 5 or 2. that is an easy shot for any decent player.

my guess is that the 9 must have been blocking the simple path to the 8.

that being the case, i don't think this was a "magical" shot.

 

[sjm]

Bravo! Efren's pattern is superb. Three cushion knowledge really is the key here, because the naked eye doesn't give a true sense of how big this path is. What makes it bigger than it looks is the fact that the cue ball will have reverse english when it hits its fourth rail, simplifying control of the shot. A three cushion background is a big edge when building a pattern like this one.

 

[jsp]

time for another one

Alright, no one seemed to pass the first test, so I'll give another "What would Efren do?" scenario.

This setup happens to be later on during the same rack. Archer needed only to pocket the 11 and 8 to win not only the rack but the match (he was up 5-7, race to 8). However, he missed a relatively easy cut shot on the 11, but was fortunate enough to find the balls spread as below. Efren needs to pot the 8 to win the rack, but the 11 is blocking the top right corner. What would you do?

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[NaClBandit]

if that was efren's pattern, then i have to think he didn't feel good about get to the 8 from the 5 or 2. that is an easy shot for any decent player.

my guess is that the 9 must have been blocking the simple path to the 8.

that being the case, i don't think this was a "magical" shot.

It may not have been magic but it was the better percentage play I think.

Getting on the 8 from the 5 requires a large degree of speed and directional control (I don't think the 9 blocks the path). It's very possible to get stuck behind the 10 coming from that flat angle. Plus undercutting and hitting the 9 would kill position completely.

Efren's play takes a lot of touch out of the shot. By using more rails there is more forgiveness for errors in his speed. Also, the angle of the cueball is less critical since he's coming into his position zone (via the 4th rail) rather than across it.

The location of the 10 ball even seems to take out the possibility of a scratch.

So maybe the magic is in the pattern recognition more than the execution on this shot. "Voila".

 

[RSB-Refugee]

Alright, no one seemed to pass the first test, so I'll give another "What would Efren do?" scenario.

This setup happens to be later on during the same rack. Archer needed only to pocket the 11 and 8 to win not only the rack but the match (he was up 5-7, race to 8). However, he missed a relatively easy cut shot on the 11, but was fortunate enough to find the balls spread as below. Efren needs to pot the 8 to win the rack, but the 11 is blocking the top right corner. What would you do?

I would try this. It probably is not right, but I wanted to experiment with converting WEI to jpeg. Anyway, what I would try is to either pocket the eight, or get it close to the corner, while putting the cue ball in close proximity, hopefully touching the eleven.

Tracy

 

[bruin70]

It may n,,,,

,,,,Plus undercutting and hitting the 9 would kill position completely.

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So maybe the magic is in the pattern recognition more than the execution on this shot. "Voila".

i mean,,,,i like the shot and all but, and the cb does roll into the shot,,,,but if you're going to point out possible errors(hitting the 9), then it's only fair to point out what can happen on the 3c shot,,,ie. the 10 blocks a lot of critical area.

a great shot, but by no means efrenesque, either by execution or recognition. the reason no one came up with the 3c shot is because everyone was looking for something "magical", hence all the carom shots etc etc. i think any pro sees this shot

 

[Bob Jewett]

... Efren needs to pot the 8 to win the rack, but the 11 is blocking the top right corner. What would you do?
...

It will probably look different at the table, but I'd try banking the 8 to hit the long cushion by the 11 and bounce out some while the cue ball rolls to the end cushion, leaving the cue-8-11 lined up.

The other shot that I just noticed is to bank the 8 to the end rail and back (hopefully) in front of the 11, and take the cue ball off the side cushion, through the rack area and leave it on the other side cushion. This leaves only a bank and the 8 has a good chance to block the bank.

 

[supergreenman]

this is one way I'd try this shot.

 

[supergreenman]

One more way I'd try it, a little more difficult.

 

[jsp]

this is one way I'd try this shot.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Are you sure you didn't watch this match on video?

This is exactly how Efren played it. He played it as a two-way shot, drawing the CB slightly to freeze it in the bottom rail near the left corner. He just barely missed the 8 in the side, but was successful giving Archer a tough bank with the CB on the rail. Johnny ended up missing the bank, and Efren made a difficult table-length back cut into the bottom right corner. Efren ended up winning the next two racks, winning the match 8-7. He also ended up winning the tournament. THE END