How Would You Play This Layout?
- Thread starter Old Nine Baller
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Here are my attempts:
Each video is 2 min for easy viewing. One is complete with thigh gap commentaryGentlemen, tell your women that thigh gap is NOT sexy! YUCK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYdJexP9vs&feature=youtu.be
I hope posters don't pass this video up. Best video ever posted here. It shows reality instead of all the fantasy players out there.
Btw, I think the thigh gap is sexy. And I think more meat is sexy. You know the saying... it's ALL good!
Freddie <~~~ can't shoot past the gap
Hahaha... how strong is that?! Running the balls while his name is being said, talking about thigh gap!
JT Flipper
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USING inside English causes a lot of shots to be missed. I would try to double the corner on the left and come back down table for shape.
Old Nine Baller
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You are welcome.
My first (and only) thought was also to use a little inside and come straight back down the table but John Schmidt had other ideas. He hit it with low-left spin and hit it perfect. It was a difficult shot, it couldn't be hit hard and it couldn't be hit soft. Just the tough in-between speed. I was very surprised by his choice but he hit it perfect:smile:.
http://youtu.be/8jmrDq32eQ8
Here is the inside english out. I just adjusted my camera settings to manual focus and white balance for indoor lights, I hope they are better (I'm color blind so I'm not sure...)
Of the 3 methods I tried (playing the 4 from near the side pocket by getting there 1 rail with a hair of outside, playing the 4 from center table by getting there one rail with IE, and playing the 4 from center table like Schmidt did by getting there 2 rails out of the corner), I liked playing it from near the side pocket. That played natural to me, and I especially liked getting on the next ball from that CB position.
The way Schimdt played it when I tried it several times that way, the CB speed was super sensitive. The shot played natural to end up behind the 7 when I shot it that way.
All that said, a small 1" difference in any of the balls between my table and Schmidt's can make a ton of difference.
Thanks for the thread ONB.
Here is the inside english out. I just adjusted my camera settings to manual focus and white balance for indoor lights, I hope they are better (I'm color blind so I'm not sure...)
Of the 3 methods I tried (playing the 4 from near the side pocket by getting there 1 rail with a hair of outside, playing the 4 from center table by getting there one rail with IE, and playing the 4 from center table like Schmidt did by getting there 2 rails out of the corner), I liked playing it from near the side pocket. That played natural to me, and I especially liked getting on the next ball from that CB position.
The way Schimdt played it when I tried it several times that way, the CB speed was super sensitive. The shot played natural to end up behind the 7 when I shot it that way.
All that said, a small 1" difference in any of the balls between my table and Schmidt's can make a ton of difference.
Thanks for the thread ONB.
There is a possible safe by drawing the cue ball behind the 6 and banking the 1 up table but I would try for the run out. If you use good speed you be able to bring the cue ball to the long rail and have the 4 in the corner.
I like the runout better than the safe.
I like the runout better than the safe.
Old Nine Baller
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Using outside English also causes a lot of shots to be missed. They are both the same thing, it's just that most are comfortable with outside, that's all.
ONB
cue ball between 8 and 9, or backdown middle. you can run this without english with the right speed, pretty basic layout. try making three balls on a tenball break than ask how to run it out
than ask how to run it out
Nice shooting! (Though, the 8 in the 2nd video has no biniz going in. :grinHere are my attempts:
Each video is 2 min for easy viewing. One is complete with thigh gap commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eHd5W6mQCo&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayhJKsGygMo&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYdJexP9vs&feature=youtu.be
I personally would shoot the shot with inside like the way you did it here. Like you said, the OE shot is very sensitive to speed due to the running english. With IE, there is a greater speed margin of error because inside causes the CB to check up after the short rail. It's kinda like putting up hill.
I concur.
I'd shoot the one with left hand english (outside) and run two rails out to the middle of the table. It's all elementary from there.
Dragging cue ball
The cutting angle of the shot needs only a center ball hit combined with years of experience to simplify it's execution utilizing speed and cueing along the vertical axis of the cue ball ie. from 6 to 12o'clock to stall the cue ball as it's first struck. Take ANY cut shot such as the one being shown, and one can position themselves for shape on pretty much any ball on the left side of the screen with out ANY outside English, which in this shot given the distance makes execution and ball pocketing now, much more difficult. Daulton is a perfect example of someone who would roll whitey naturally to get to the next ball....speed is thee most important part of this shot to get shape and avoid landing behind or on top of one of the blocking balls.
The cutting angle of the shot needs only a center ball hit combined with years of experience to simplify it's execution utilizing speed and cueing along the vertical axis of the cue ball ie. from 6 to 12o'clock to stall the cue ball as it's first struck. Take ANY cut shot such as the one being shown, and one can position themselves for shape on pretty much any ball on the left side of the screen with out ANY outside English, which in this shot given the distance makes execution and ball pocketing now, much more difficult. Daulton is a perfect example of someone who would roll whitey naturally to get to the next ball....speed is thee most important part of this shot to get shape and avoid landing behind or on top of one of the blocking balls.
I'm not sure if you could keep the cue ball away from the left half of the table for the 4 using high inside on the 1. I like outside on the 1 and try to swing the white 2 rails toward the center, avoiding the 8. However both of those shots don't seem very easy.
Old Nine Baller
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Well, at least one player can use inside on this shot
. This was posted earlier by iusedtoberich.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jmrDq32eQ8&feature=youtu.be
ONB
Old Nine Baller
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Here's one example:
If you lag cut a spot shot or any cut shot, the tangent line off the struck object ball changes as you lower your cueing from 12 o'clock High to 6 o'clock draw with the same swing speed. Buddy Hall was the perfect example of ''same swing speed''. He could draw the ball or follow the ball and get pretty much anywhere on the table and it looked like slow motion. And of course we all know, Buddy never shot too many balls that were more than 24'' from the cue ball :grin: