Yeah, that is a good shot for position IF you could get the cb to go that far into the corner, but alas, at this angle, that isn't possible. :sorry:
How would you play this shot for the win?
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Yeah, that is a good shot for position IF you could get the cb to go that far into the corner, but alas, at this angle, that isn't possible. :sorry:
Honestly the cue ball barely made it to the side pocket, close side of the pocket or just past I would still have been good. Just never expected the scratch in the side, never even thought twice about it. The whole room went silent. I saw the line as soon as it came off the end rail, didn't even look at it when it fell just knew it was going.
Black Cat
why did you scratch??
you couldnt draw the cue ball enough to the middle of the short rail??
or
you were just off on your intended track??
how close to the side pocket were you trying to get?
It may be my angle as drawn would not work, at least not without inside or something,
which would REALLY mess up the shot. I would only try my shot with top or a little running depending
on how it looked. If it doesn't come close to the corner with just pure top, I might intentionally
cut to the thin side of the pocket to try to make it work.
But, the angle he had may have been different, cuz what he diagrammed shows him drawing off that ball
and not touching the side rail. Looks too thin to do that in the diagram. If that shot is available it's fun
and usually not a dangerous route as long as you use plenty of sidespin too. Like try to draw spin
to middle diamond on the foot rail, 2nd diamond on the long rail.
It looks like to me just center ball, or a little top on the 7, or a little top+right... will bring
the cue ball around like so. Basically it's a natural path with almost no spin needed to change it.
You'll fall on either the side or corner.
The closer you come to scratching in the top left corner in the pic, the better your position will be,
you'll land closer to the 8. So you need some feel to find out how close you can get to that pocket.
I like hitting this shot 8:00 o'clock....and load it.
...whitey goes long rail, short rail, and if you got enough left on it, back
to the long rail....play the 8-ball in the corner.
This choice is especially reliable on a Valley bar box, which often has
6 rails that all hit different.
Honestly I wasn't intending to get anywhere near the side pocket. I was thinking that I'd get to the side rail around the second diamond or so spin down table 8 ball in the side.
Black Cat
the reason for my question was if you figure out why you were so off you wont make the same mistake again.......:thumbup:
Just an ideal here.When playing 8 ball there will be times I pay attention to how my
opponents balls are setting.This is a perfect setup for that.Depends on how fast the table is,you could slow roll it in the side and play the 8 in the corner or go 2 rails with inside and back towards the 8 off the bottom rail for the corner.Both shots present a safe for you and the control is very simple.
Less chance for trouble and you wont sell out.
Just a thought. Anthony
opponents balls are setting.This is a perfect setup for that.Depends on how fast the table is,you could slow roll it in the side and play the 8 in the corner or go 2 rails with inside and back towards the 8 off the bottom rail for the corner.Both shots present a safe for you and the control is very simple.
Less chance for trouble and you wont sell out.
Just a thought. Anthony
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I set this shot up and because of the angle, you cannot slow roll the shot in the side and 'hold it" enough to be able to get a straight enough angle to cut the 8 in the corner without scratching in the side.
The angle is also too much to be able to hold the cue ball using inside and doubling the long rail. It still bounces out about 1/2 diamond and eliminates the straight in on the 8 in the corner without scratching.
If you think about playing safe with bouncing the 7 to the rail and hiding the cb behind the 7-8...that might work if your opponent cannot kick. If he CAN kick and he hits the 15, then you have a bad shot (possible hook behind the 8) and then you have to get the cue ball exactly straight in on the 8 in order to shoot it in the corner....or....you have to get back up table to shoot it in the side.
The best shot is the natural 3 railer off the 7 to shoot the 8 in the side.
IMO
I set this up yesterday...5 times on a Valley...5 times on a Diamond 9 foot.
Got out 10 times.
The exact angle determines how low the cue-ball should be hit.
...assuming regulation balls.
I am surprised to see this still anywhere near page 1
I am going three rails for the win
I am hoping my opponent attempts to do anything but go three rails
I am going three rails for the win
I am hoping my opponent attempts to do anything but go three rails
Exactly. Anything else is just a Steve Mizerak commercial shot. :wink:
Talked with a Miller Lite advertising guy on a plane once and he said that through the years they talked about bringing back The Miz's commercial. He said its just an odd thing that until recently has not been done often..bring back old commercials.
I think it would be a cool and fun commercial even now
Yeah. Might even get pool back into the thoughts/minds of people not normally involved!
Three rails around is the shot on my 9' table. Easy peasy, just watch your speed. No need to try and force shape on the 8-ball if natural roll will get you there. I would not consider the shot taken by OP.
7 in the side with Outside English, 3 rails around 8 ball in the side or the upper corner, 15 in the corner. Nothing fancy for 7 just proper stroke speed to make sure you get the 3 rails and get past the center of the table. If you get a little farther than you like youre still ok.
If youre playing for fun you bank the 7 and come off the bottom rail 8 in the corner and 15 in the corner, you must stun the bank to protect from the scratch.
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It's very similar to one of the shots in the 60 minute workout that uses...center ball.
12-6 $100 a game... something to think about.
So, how are you playing him nowadays?
Lou Figueroa