How would you play this?

[Jude Rosenstock]

The IPT used the three foul rule in their eight ball.

I didn't see very many IPT matches so I really have no idea how this played out but I can't imagine this rule was any good. Botched run-out attempts are common in 8ball, even on the pro level. Admittedly, you fail to run-out in 8ball (pocket all of your group and miss 8) against a pro, you're likely going to lose anyway but with a 3foul rule, the probability is almost certain. In my opinion, part of the beauty of 8ball has to do with the ability to foul without any more penalty than ball-in-hand.

 

[dabarbr]

I didn't see very many IPT matches so I really have no idea how this played out but I can't imagine this rule was any good. Botched run-out attempts are common in 8ball, even on the pro level. Admittedly, you fail to run-out in 8ball (pocket all of your group and miss 8) against a pro, you're likely going to lose anyway but with a 3foul rule, the probability is almost certain. In my opinion, part of the beauty of 8ball has to do with the ability to foul without any more penalty than ball-in-hand.

I did get to see many of the IPT eight ball games and to my amazement it was not utilized as much as one might expect. I saw a number of games that would have been won early with the three fouls but most players in that caliber have the confidence to run out.

One game in particular was with KId Delicious playing that very young boy who's name escapes me at the moment (maybe Austin Murphy?). It was hill hill and Danny B has bih with about five of his balls on the table and the young boy is on the eight and with two fouls.
If Danny played a safe the chances of a good hit on the eight from Austin were very slim.

Danny decides to run out but it was a struggle with the cue ball going all over the place out of control. I say his skills and a bit of luck won him that game.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

I did get to see many of the IPT eight ball games and to my amazement it was not utilized as much as one might expect. I saw a number of games that would have been won early with the three fouls but most players in that caliber have the confidence to run out.

One game in particular was with KId Delicious playing that very young boy who's name escapes me at the moment (maybe Austin Murphy?). It was hill hill and Danny B has bih with about five of his balls on the table and the young boy is on the eight and with two fouls.
If Danny played a safe the chances of a good hit on the eight from Austin were very slim.

Danny decides to run out but it was a struggle with the cue ball going all over the place out of control. I say his skills and a bit of luck won him that game.

I can just imagine all these scenarios with a hanging 8ball where the likely outcome would be reversed BECAUSE of a 3foul rule.

 

[Eric.]

If you know the system, it's not about easy or hard, it's all math.
Play it by the numbers and you will find that on good equipment, it's rather easy.

I'd 3 rail it too. From that position, kick to "57" on the top rail with 2:00, lag speed. Good call, SS.


Eric

 

[paksat]

You make that sound so simple. With all that movement you're talking about many things could go wrong for you. I'll give you an example of some options that would be available to me if you do what you proposed.

1st With that draw you're talking about the 15 ball may follow in.

2nd If you don't get get behind the eight or let me see a bit of that rail I would have options.

3rd I might still be able to go across table for an attempt to either pocket my ball or combo your ball or play safe depending on how they would lay.

4th I could push the eight on top of your 15 ball leaving my ball exposed and your ball locked up.

There's always a chance

Let's not forget he still has to make the 10 ball.... so make the 15 to 5 combo and draw behnd the 8.. you still got another ball on the other side of the table up against the rail.