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Jose Parica tried to go between the 8 and 9 but hit the 9 with the rock. He came out good though. I think he hit the shot with a little left, intentional or not but it's tough to tell for sure.
How Would You Play This?
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Jose is one of my all time favorite players, but if I had to point at one thing that has prevented him from winning as much as he could (should) have, it would be shot selection. I have seen him make so many baffling choices over the years, and while I don't consider this to be a terrible decision, I think there were higher percentage options for someone of his skill. FWIW, I feel the same way about Luat.
Aaron
Curses, foiled again! I wonder if Jose intentionally played into that side of the 9. With the 9 being a favorable distance off the rail, I think that would be easier than threading perfectly between the 8 and 9.
I did try this on my gc table, and the slow roll works. I have to admit though, my table doesn't play play as fast as I'd like it to.
I did try this on my gc table, and the slow roll works. I have to admit though, my table doesn't play play as fast as I'd like it to.
I did. Even with a thinner cut on the 7 I didn't have any issue holding up for position on the 8. You can get it down to a paper thin cut and with some inside it just goes to opposite rail and back out for the 8. If the 7 was much farther from the pocket, then things would change.
Clearly I'm not him.
So I wouldn't even imagine trying to pull that off. :grin-square:
I agree.............
Look like an easy bank as well...so depending on the situation I would either slow roll like PT said or bank it in.
One man's "shot" is another man's "safety". The same goes for "lines" and "shot selections". I have hit a million balls (literally in my lifetime) and I have shot the "same" shot or line thousands of times. However, based upon how I am shooting, feeling, or how the table is playing, I may feel more "comfortable" with shooting a shot that goes "against the grain" of what I would play on a "different" day.
There is no right way or wrong way, IMHO. The results are the only thing that count. If you go one rail to get position and I go three rails to get to the same spot, there is no difference.
Actually, I think there is a difference. They may both get position, but the guy that tends to do it the harder way will screw it up more often than the guy that goes the easy way. So, I feel there are "right" ways, and "wrong" ways to shoot a shot. You always have to go with what gives you the best odds. Once you start pushing the odds, eventually you will pay for it.
Here is a diagram of a shot from one of my games yesterday. I accidentally "reversed" the ends of the table in the diagram...the foot spot should be on the other end, but the layout is the same.
He scratched on the break and I had ball in hand on the one which was near the two. I shot the one in the corner and stopped on the two to leave the angle as shown. He asked why I stopped there. I told him I wanted to shoot the "five" and he didn't know what I was talking about and said, "no, you are shooting the two".
I told him that "five" was the center spot on the end rail and I wanted the angle to come off the five spot and hit near or above the "five" on the long rail which is the spot on the rail right before the side pocket. I saw that I had the angle to "float" the ball on the NATURAL line without trying to "spin" it around like a top.
I hit the ball with "heavy stun" but enough stroke and force to bring the ball around the table four rails and it came into the exact spot I told him I was aiming for. I got LUCKY, like Efren, and then ran out.
Most people wouldn't have played this line, or maybe even saw it. There is NO "right" way or "wrong" way unless there is "NO WAY". Position is the Teacher.
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That's exactly how I would have played it also. To me, that is the "correct" way to play it. Has the greatest odds. I am curious though, how others on here would have played it, and why.
Therein lies the "problem"! What is "easy" for YOU, may not be so "easy" for me. We tend to gravitate to what we can actually "do" with more confidence. Example being: my friend can't draw the ball for the life of him, but I can draw the ball several rails...should he play position for the draw shot while knowing he is uncomfortable and has trouble with it?
To me, getting the ball around the table using "no" spin and only stroke and speed control is "easier" than trying to spin the ball into position. I can do both and do both during all my games, but sometimes what I feel is "better" for me may be different than what you would think with the same layout.
That is why pool interests me...if everything were the SAME it would be more boring than it already is to most people.
If I had ball in hand, I would put whitey low on the 2, hit the long rail before the top side
pocket, and float with lots of right english towards the 9-3-8.
Don't know your shot on the 1-ball, but that's where I'd like to park it.
I gotta feeling I'm in good company here, that's how I see Efren playing it......
...on a bad day or a bad table, your way has a 4 and 6-ball to worry about.
If you can't float a ball with english, you may have to float a loan.
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