How Would You Play This?

If it turns out that a guy who can give Shane the last 5.....
...played this shot some way I can't envision right now....:confused:

..I'm still gonna roll it in dead-weight when I get it.
 
I'm cutting the 7 with a high ball...maybe a hair of inside...(11:30). With a smooth and longer follow through, it looks like the cue ball will come off the long rail down towards the nine. With a firm speed usually good stuff happens, that is, I'm probably going to get short side shape on the 8 ball.

I hate slow rolling a cut at that angle. It feels like a perfect cut angle for the 7 ball to skid on me.
 
Yea I'm sorry. I'm not sure it gets any easier than this unless all three were hangers.

7 in the side, slow roll or whatever, pretty hard to miss natural position on the 8. Table speed really isn't even an issue unless you're playing on a glass table top.

;)
 
Yea I'm sorry. I'm not sure it gets any easier than this unless all three were hangers.

7 in the side, slow roll or whatever, pretty hard to miss natural position on the 8. Table speed really isn't even an issue unless you're playing on a glass table top.

;)

I wonder how many that say that have actually set it up exactly as shown and tried it? I haven't, but unless one has really dead rails, the cb will end up even with the 8, and then you have to go around the table for the 9 or take a tough cut.

You are hitting a little less than 1/4 of the 7 by the looks of it. That means your cb will go at least 3 times as far as the 7 goes. Just don't see holding it for the 8. Looks to me like one of those shots that people think they can hold it, then end up in trouble.
 
I wonder how many that say that have actually set it up exactly as shown and tried it? I haven't, but unless one has really dead rails, the cb will end up even with the 8, and then you have to go around the table for the 9 or take a tough cut.

You are hitting a little less than 1/4 of the 7 by the looks of it. That means your cb will go at least 3 times as far as the 7 goes. Just don't see holding it for the 8. Looks to me like one of those shots that people think they can hold it, then end up in trouble.
It's about time that someone noticed that. Where have you been for two years?:D

ONB
 
I have... It's easy peasy... Slow roll easy position from the 8 to 9 even if it's a bit off line...

I wonder how many that say that have actually set it up exactly as shown and tried it? I haven't, but unless one has really dead rails, the cb will end up even with the 8, and then you have to go around the table for the 9 or take a tough cut.

You are hitting a little less than 1/4 of the 7 by the looks of it. That means your cb will go at least 3 times as far as the 7 goes. Just don't see holding it for the 8. Looks to me like one of those shots that people think they can hold it, then end up in trouble.
 
I wonder how many that say that have actually set it up exactly as shown and tried it? I haven't, but unless one has really dead rails, the cb will end up even with the 8, and then you have to go around the table for the 9 or take a tough cut.

You are hitting a little less than 1/4 of the 7 by the looks of it. That means your cb will go at least 3 times as far as the 7 goes. Just don't see holding it for the 8. Looks to me like one of those shots that people think they can hold it, then end up in trouble.

I hate to be an "I told you so", but I set this up today at Brian's and made it on the FIRST try. I did it exactly as I said in my earlier post and I came between the 8 and 9 without touching them. I came up a bit short, so I put low left on the ball and pulled it to the short rail on the end and three rails back for the 9 and came up perfect on the end rail.

This is what I said in my earlier post.

"Cut the 7 in the side and go 2 rails between the 8 and 9 and come up behind the 8 and shoot it in the opposite corner from the 9."

Edit: Here is a picture of how I ended up on the 8 and how I got back to the 9. X marks the spot of the cue ball after the 8.
 

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I hate to be an "I told you so", but I set this up today at Brian's and made it on the FIRST try. I did it exactly as I said in my earlier post and I came between the 8 and 9 without touching them. I came up a bit short, so I put low left on the ball and pulled it to the short rail on the end and three rails back for the 9 and came up perfect on the end rail.

This is what I said in my earlier post.

"Cut the 7 in the side and go 2 rails between the 8 and 9 and come up behind the 8 and shoot it in the opposite corner from the 9."

How's that being an "I told you so"? I was talking about slow rolling the 7 in and holding the cb for the 8 and 9 in the same corner. That's not what you did.;)
 
How's that being an "I told you so"? I was talking about slow rolling the 7 in and holding the cb for the 8 and 9 in the same corner. That's not what you did.;)

I wasn't saying I told you so to "you" for your post. I meant I set it up and tried it and it came out like I thought it would. There are several ways to do it.
 
I wasn't saying I told you so to "you" for your post. I meant I set it up and tried it and it came out like I thought it would. There are several ways to do it.

Sure there are a number of ways to do it. One way no one mentioned yet is to simply slow roll the bank in.
 
I just set this up and approached it naturally without thinking. I went straight to jacking the cue up. Little bit of draw and hit it nice and soft. CB floated down towards the corner, 2 rails and ended up with a thick 3/4 ball 8.
 
How about on a bar table with kittens running around under the slate? One could pop it's head out of the side pocket and the ball would not go in.

Hey now you're changing the shot! Post a teammate at the door while I'm shooting. Nobody with any baby felines allowed!
 
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I set it up on my table with average speed rails. 5 tries with a TOI and 5 with no spin slow rolling the cue ball. With no spin I came close to the eight ball. With inside I got a comfortable distance away to make the 8 ball.

As I said before among others, this shot may be different on a faster table with live rails, but few paid any attention to it. That's becoming the norm in these threads.

I bow to the experts. I'll take the 7.

Best,
Mike
 
On my gold crown, I believe this is natural to roll between the 8 and 9 for short side shape. It's not a bad shot to shoot, since anything long will run into the 9-ball and probably be ok anyway. That being said, if I'm on unfamiliar equip (or in competition), I look for another shot. If I feel that the table is too fast for the slow roll, and will force me to go around the table (or up and down) from the 8 to the 9, I will play the inside stun shot. It looks like you have access to the part of the cueball you need without jacking up too much - would just have to be careful as the tangent line falls between the first diamond and the corner pocket. If you catch the point of that pocket, the inside will take you right in the drink, so I would play it with a half-tip of follow and punch it pretty good to make sure I get up-table far enough to actually make pay on the extra risk of playing the harder shot.

Aaron
 
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