How would you run this rack?

[Hits 'em Hard]

Someone wise once said:

"Sometimes running out is like driving drunk, other times it's like making toast."

It’s the difference between Driving Miss Daisy, and a demolition derby. Sometimes you run out without feeling as if you did anything. Then there are those times you’re not in control of anything.

 

[Black-Balled]

I am pretty sure i play better than most pros.

I am definitely playing a harder game.

 

[Jimmorrison]

Sharivari, great video, as always. What was your original intent with this vid? Were you trying to show all the different ways this rack could be run? Do you think a player should set it up until they run it ten times the same way? I can't beat your mom, but I got out nine times in ten tries. None of the successful runs were identical. My first attempt failed, could not get from the two to the three. Switched to a follow shot, end rail and back out, after that, got out every time. The one goes in corner every time. Two goes side or corner. Three goes in either corner. Once, I really messed up and had to bank it in upper right corner. Four ball goes in side, one time in upper right corner. Five always goes in same corner, same with eight. Nine goes in either corner. Pretty sure opposite corner most of the time. What have I learned, what was your intent?

 

[Jimmorrison]

Just ran three more times, really focused. Put all balls in same pockets. Different routes, three to four, but same pockets. Nine in opposite corner, all three racks. Does this translate to increased chances of success, in some random, future, situation? I wonder.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Do you think a player should set it up until they run it ten times the same way?

If you do and that shot sequence ever comes up in a game, you'll be ready.

I like the idea of planning the run and trying to run the plan, but on different racks as they come up, like in real play. I'd rather learn to cope with imperfect position play than perfect it for a particular layout.

pj
chgo

 

[trinacria]

if I could actually execute shots like a pro, ide go same pocket as 8, bottom right corner

 

[Pedestrian]

Of course like all such questions pertaining to the last two balls on the table, it depends on how one gets on the 7. A slight angle to the left, an easy stop stop makes the cue ball drift up for straight in the corner on the 8 and another stop shot leaves almost straight in for 9 in the side.

If the 7 is a slight angle to the right then try to either come one rail straight up or go two rails to try for straight in the corner on the 8.

 

[alstl]

Since in pool there is not the right or wrong way to run a rack, I would love to hear your thoughts on that 9-Ball layout. How would you run this rack? Especially from the 8 to the 9 people were discussing if the 9 should be played into the side pocket, or into the corner pocket. I personally think you definetly have to play the 9 into the corner pocket, not into the side.

If you want to, you can use this tool (https://bit.ly/2UYfqZv) to draw lines and move balls around to give your answer. Just click the Save button in the top right and share the link here.

This was my way to do it:
https://youtu.be/NNANsmHu6JY


So - what is your way to run this rack?

The way I would have tried to play it was different from how you did it. I would not have drawn to the middle of the table for the 2 in the side. I would have drawn less and played the 2 down table in the corner and followed down to about even with the bottom of the rack. That gives an angle to get on the four. If you get straight which you nearly did they you are trying to cheat the pocket with more of a created shot.

How you play the 9 depends on the angle you get on the 8 but I prefer to keep the cue ball farther away from the 9 ball than how you played it.

Good thread and thanks for posting it.

 

[megatron69]

Imust be getting better at shot selection. I would've played the rack essentially exactly the same as you played it, except the 8 ball. I would've shot the 8 with just top center, to try and get the cue to drift a bit closer to parallel with the side rail, giving me more room from the 9.

Nice video btw. The POV perspective is really great, along with the POI on the cue ball, the ghost ball, etc. Well done.

 

[Sharivari]

Yes, I should've played the 8-Ball with just top spin to get perfect position. I still don't agree with the 9-Ball into the side pocket. But I did think about it and even had conversations with professional players about it. They would've played for the corner pocket aswell.

But as it always is in pool, you should do the thing that you are feeling the most comfortable with. And if it's the side pocket, then go for it. It's your personal right shot.

Is there a tutorial for your table diagram?

No, there isn't. But maybe the "?" icon can help.

I've fooled around a lot with cameras for my home table, but never a POV camera. Would you mind sharing what you are using for that? I noticed it seemed like the tip was biased a hair to the left on the CB when you were down on all the shots. Was that real, or do you think something was going on with the camera? Is it sensitive to the position you place it on your head? For example if you shift it on your head 1", will it make the CB contact point look significantly different?

I am using a GoPro Hero 8 Black. The problem however is that my head is slightly tilted, and the cue is also positioned on close to my left eye. The tip distance to the cue ball then makes it look like I am adding left hand English if I am playing a center ball. That's one thing I haven't figured out to fix yet.

 

[straightline]

@ Sharivari I'd try for straight on the two, come down slightly below the three. Then you have all six pockets for the four. I like just getting straight for the diagonal corner after which you should have the last three as stop shots; however it works out.
If you get straight on the three, you can stop and VanBoening the four and be right back in line.