How's your speed control?

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If you think your speed control and banking are pretty good, check out this form of carom billiards. Carom is where Efren learned his ball control. Note how well they do short strokes and masse shots.


A few details about the game to aid your viewing: You have to make your cue ball hit both the other balls. You are not allowed to keep the two balls in the same area for more than two shots, so you can't just trap them in a corner. If a player runs out (250 in this game) from the break shot, the other player gets a chance to tie.
 
If you think your speed control and banking are pretty good, check out this form of carom billiards. Carom is where Efren learned his ball control. Note how well they do short strokes and masse shots.


You are not allowed to keep the two balls in the same area for more than two shots
What determines “same area”? Is it same half of the table, same quarter if the table, or something else?
 
Pretty sure it's those boxes on the table.
Gotcha. So it makes sense the corner area is smaller. What about the really small boxes? For example points 4 and five were both played bottom right. If the next point stayed there but was nudged into the tiny box would it be a good hit?
 
... What about the really small boxes? For example points 4 and five were both played bottom right. If the next point stayed there but was nudged into the tiny box would it be a good hit?
The tiny boxes -- used to be called Parker's box for the guy who suggested them -- are another set of areas in which you can only score two points before a ball leaves. The problem was that players would walk the balls along the line (one on each side) until they got to a cushion and then they would kiss lightly back and forth across them, not going anywhere, or kiss full off one to barely touch the other. Those techniques are only possible at the ends of the lines.

Good player can walk the balls down the line, get to the cushion, turn them around in spite of Parker's box, and walk them back up the line to the first intersection, and then turn them around again.

Until you get to a certain level, the lines are pointless. I play the version where there are no lines except maybe in the corners. I have gotten the two balls trapped in the corner and just stopped. The first level of restriction is a triangular shape in each corner.
 
They play that at the Billiard Hall across town, I’ve only played 3C. So the bunch of Vietnamese guys yelling at each other was kinda of fun to watch. They couldn’t play very well but it’s fun to watch. I always wondered what they were playing decades ago when I was running a pool hall, but I never bothered asking
 
My speed control isn't bad but I forget and misjudge how much energy goes into the object ball on thinner vs thicker shots. I'll often come up way short when following a near full ball hit and go way long following something thinner than half ball.
 
I have good enough speed to play position with only a few minutes daily banging. That's all I'll claim about it.
One of the first tips I was handed is, "The ball is already made." Armed with this wisdom, I was able to develop the independence of touch required. Should be noted that even though carom players do very precise ball management, they have minimal concerns over exact primary ball lines. This allows the resource shy brains to focus on cue ball control. It ports directly over to pool. Simply configure the object ball precision before focusing on cue ball control.
 
Speaking of that, around here I set the cruise control at 6 above. I don't think their radar even cares.
i believe your correct in many municipalities. It is however at the officers discretion and if he just had a fight with his GF it could be trouble. LMAO.. They are human after all and some towns are known as speed traps. Here in NC, Wake Forest near Raleigh is one of those booogie towns. You dont dare go 36 in a 35 mph zone!
 
i believe your correct in many municipalities. It is however at the officers discretion and if he just had a fight with his GF it could be trouble. LMAO.. They are human after all and some towns are known as speed traps. Here in NC, Wake Forest near Raleigh is one of those booogie towns. You dont dare go 36 in a 35 mph zone!
Lol. CHP in LA in the 70s had me targeted on my jaunts to school. 4.9 over 55 was the (felt like my personal) absolute limit. I do remember when traffic cops first got their radar, 1 over was real big especially in residential areas. If you were lucky you'd spot the motorcycle in time to hit the brakes.
 
Two thoughts:

1) that cloth is ridiculously fast
2) Those guys are good. At least that one guy. I watched until he was at 13. Then I got up for a minute tops. Came back, he was at 43. Now he's at 58 in the time it took me to write this.

Ok, one more thought: I think I can see why some people prefer 3C.
 
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