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So, I'm working on this old, unique Hubbart cue when I notice the butt cap is loose. I needed to reglue it so I wanted to clean up the face on the cap and on the butt sleeve tenon. Well, I chucked up the butt of the cue and kicked on the lathe. Something flew out at my head so I shut it down and began to look, which would be easier if I would sweep once in a while. I found what came out so I snapped some pics.

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I poked around and found that five out of the six were loose. Not a big deal. I glued them back in and went about my business but I just thought I'd share.
 
I'd be wondering about the glue bonds throughout the rest of the cue.
"Seek and ye shall find". Can anyone say 'A' joint?
If the cap let loose with that much tenon, you may have your hands full.

Hopefully, the owner may realize the rarity of this cue and won't play with it.
What are the odds of that, huh?

This reminded me of a time when Rick, the store mgr. at Seybert's was handing me a cue for some work and the butt-cap came off in his hand.
I said to him : "welcome to my world".

Good Luck Ryan. Sounds like you might need it.
 
You got lucky. If it had been me, the inlay would have let loose, hit me in the eye, then ricochet into the wall and splinter into a 1000 pieces so it couldn't be repaired:eek:
 
CamposCues said:
You got lucky. If it had been me, the inlay would have let loose, hit me in the eye, then ricochet into the wall and splinter into a 1000 pieces so it couldn't be repaired:eek:
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WoW didn't know that anyone else had luck like me :) I feel your pain Campos!
 
I think it was a matter of materials and age. The veneers that came out were glued into the plastic sleeve. That's always a tricky bond. The rest of the cue is straight and sounds solid. I'll try to remember to post pics when it is done.
 
I've repaired a few of that brand and I've seen pressed on rings and ferrels ... Recently had joint rings just fall off due to cold air ... Made to sell , not to play ...:cool:
 
KJ Cues said:
I'd be wondering about the glue bonds throughout the rest of the cue.
"Seek and ye shall find". Can anyone say 'A' joint?
If the cap let loose with that much tenon, you may have your hands full.

Hopefully, the owner may realize the rarity of this cue and won't play with it.
What are the odds of that, huh?

This reminded me of a time when Rick, the store mgr. at Seybert's was handing me a cue for some work and the butt-cap came off in his hand.
I said to him : "welcome to my world".

Good Luck Ryan. Sounds like you might need it.
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The odds are pretty good it won't get played.

Regards,

Scott
 
KJ Cues said:
I'd be wondering about the glue bonds throughout the rest of the cue.
"Seek and ye shall find". Can anyone say 'A' joint?
If the cap let loose with that much tenon, you may have your hands full.

Hopefully, the owner may realize the rarity of this cue and won't play with it.
What are the odds of that, huh?

This reminded me of a time when Rick, the store mgr. at Seybert's was handing me a cue for some work and the butt-cap came off in his hand.
I said to him : "welcome to my world".

Good Luck Ryan. Sounds like you might need it.
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Can anyone say 'A' joint?

I did a repair on a first Catalog Meucci cue awhile back, the A-Joint had no tenon just a connection screw that held the handle to the forearm. The cue had come apart at this connection, and if the screw had been glued you would never know. All I had to do was remove the connection screw with my fingers, clean up the threads on the screw and the wood and re-epoxy the connection using the original connection screw. :)
 
Craig,

You missed your chance to give the client an upgrade by not offering to install a tenon system for him. Gotta believe the cue would have played 1,000% better.
 
KJ Cues said:
Craig,

You missed your chance to give the client an upgrade by not offering to install a tenon system for him. Gotta believe the cue would have played 1,000% better.
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I have to agree that the cue would have played better, however, it would have also changed the way cue played, and his intent was to keep it as original as possible. The thing that I do not understand is why people continue to build cues this way with all that is known about the technique. In fact there are some forum members who swear by that method of A-joint construction, last year one thier cues came apart and photo's were posted on the forum by the customer. But, I suppose in the end it is to each his own, plus it also helps stimulate the repair business.

Take care
 
I'd be willing to be you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test between a cue with a tenon and one without. (The way it hits)
 
manwon said:
I have to agree that the cue would have played better, however, it would have also changed the way cue played, and his intent was to keep it as original as possible. The thing that I do not understand is why people continue to build cues this way with all that is known about the technique. In fact there are some forum members who swear by that method of A-joint construction, last year one thier cues came apart and photo's were posted on the forum by the customer. But, I suppose in the end it is to each his own, plus it also helps stimulate the repair business.

Take care
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In an effort to avoid a full-blown debate on the subject, particularly since it's another man's thread, I'll just politely agree with your statement regarding : 'to each his own'. It may be their own but certainly not mine.

Enjoy your evening Sir.
 
KJ Cues said:
In an effort to avoid a full-blown debate on the subject, particularly since it's another man's thread, I'll just politely agree with your statement regarding : 'to each his own'. It may be their own but certainly not mine.

Enjoy your evening Sir.
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You also KJ, I appreaciate your sponse and agree completely with it.

You also have a great night
 
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