poolpro said:Playing good pool, and making money at pool are two completely different skills. QUOTE]
Truer words were never spoken...
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Hustlin' a Hustler
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Stones said:
No slight to Bob...but the receding spheres theory was written way back in the early teens (1915 plus or minus), by another fanatical poolplayer, and occasional scientist...by the name of ALBERT EINSTEIN!
We use this theory in teaching SAM (Supplemental Aiming Method) to our students. Einstein's theory predicted, correctly, that there are 6 million shots and angles on a 9' pool table. Fortunately, only 6 go to a pocket...and of those six, three are more predominant, by a factor of 8-1...and out of those three, ONE angle (30 degrees) is most predominant, by a factor of nearly 10-1. The spot shot angle (or 'bread n butter' angle for pro players) is the most common shot in pool, and the angle that all great players set up for, on almost every shot.Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Steve Lipsky said:
Hey Steve, whats up brother..............??????
henho said:
I think the notion that people " Paid there Way thru School " is BS....making a few bucks now and then maybe...However I don't agree kids won't gamble and a State School, is different from a Private university and that is different from an Ivy League school...You find Biff and Tiger and suck them into a game thats a little different from your average Action at the State U. student Union....
You can cultivate Fish anywhere....I'd say on the whole as a college Freshman a few of the Seniors could beat me we would play for cash...After they left it was me and another guy who could play and we were the only action for each other we'd play some $ 100 dollar sets and pass it around a bit..No one else even had game....I ended up not playing much over me 5 1/2 year college career.....I wish I had those years back to play and get better oh well...
I guy came in my poolroom in East Islip, Long Island in NY in 1969 or 1970. He came in at noon just as I opened the after I opened the door and was practicing on the Billiard table. The guy was around fifty and over six feet tall. He had on white coveralls with paint spots all over them. His breath smelled like he had just drank a bottle a cheap wine and walked with a bad limp.
I had eight pooltables and one Billiard table. This guy asks if I want to play some five- dollar games plus time. I told him I’d play, but if I got busy I’d have to quit. He said he understood. I beat him two games of race to fifteen easily.
He came in everyday that week at the same time with the same results. I beat him like 15-6or8.
I don’t see him over the weekend and kind of forgot about him until he comes walking in on Monday morning. He tells me he hit the 2-3 daily double at the track Saturday for over four hundred dollars. Well I knew the double paid over four hundred because I followed the ponies back then. He said he was on a lucky streak and could we play for twenty a game today. Of course I said yes, running to get my cue.
Before this gets any longer we wound up with the bet inching up to three hundred a game. We played about ten or fifteen games to ten that day. He beat me for thirteen hundred plus my cue. Right after he left one of my regulars came in and saw me at the counter licking my wounds.
“I hope you didn’t play that guy that just left for money,” he said.
“Why?”
“Because he was the New England Billiard Champ.” Johnnyt
I had eight pooltables and one Billiard table. This guy asks if I want to play some five- dollar games plus time. I told him I’d play, but if I got busy I’d have to quit. He said he understood. I beat him two games of race to fifteen easily.
He came in everyday that week at the same time with the same results. I beat him like 15-6or8.
I don’t see him over the weekend and kind of forgot about him until he comes walking in on Monday morning. He tells me he hit the 2-3 daily double at the track Saturday for over four hundred dollars. Well I knew the double paid over four hundred because I followed the ponies back then. He said he was on a lucky streak and could we play for twenty a game today. Of course I said yes, running to get my cue.
Before this gets any longer we wound up with the bet inching up to three hundred a game. We played about ten or fifteen games to ten that day. He beat me for thirteen hundred plus my cue. Right after he left one of my regulars came in and saw me at the counter licking my wounds.
“I hope you didn’t play that guy that just left for money,” he said.
“Why?”
“Because he was the New England Billiard Champ.” Johnnyt
All of my experience is at small, upper-crust private institutions. Maybe the pickings are better at the big state schools.
As others mentioned, big money card games are another story and are quite easy to find. They are also hard to beat!! I know several college kids that take regular trips to Vegas or local casinos and make a very decent buck at the heavy buy-in tables.
As others mentioned, big money card games are another story and are quite easy to find. They are also hard to beat!! I know several college kids that take regular trips to Vegas or local casinos and make a very decent buck at the heavy buy-in tables.
Dead Money said:I know a young guy who would probably post stories like this on here if he was a member. He is so full of himself with some patience I can usually get him to give me the 8 or the last two playing 9-ball. It is a lock for me every time we play. He is so impressed with himself that when he loses he thinks I am just getting lucky. Nope, he's getting "hustled"
Shades of Earl talking to himself about Effie!
Wow- I need a shield for all this flak flying. I can't prove this happened as I don't have video feed of the event. What I can, and am going to say is what the ****? If you don't believe me, thats fine. I don't believe everything I read either, so I won't hate you for it. If you didn't like the read, then I'm sorry you spent time reading it. I posted one of my experiences hoping others would post theirs. I got like(didn't actually count) 4 posts about past stories that were barely a couple sentences. 
Your second hunch answered the question, thanks for playing. Plus there was more talking between us. I never said I hated him, your just assuming that from the ominous view of him I gave you in my story. I still hang out with him, lift weights and shoot pool. I just don't like it when people get taken advantage of when they are new to something, and he is no exception. I don't like how he takes advantage of newcomers to pool. People are turned off from the great game of billiards/pool when they constantly loose and loose something like a couple dollars.
Do you shoot with someone regularly? Being on a college campus, confined to it for the most part as freshmen are not allowed to have cars on campus, thus no way off it, I shoot against the same group of people now. I can tell you how every one of them shoot, how every one of them breaks, and how everyone of them walks around the table. I go to a now 'ivy' league engineering college, and therefor am a very analytical person in general. The people at this school are either smart or have loaded parents who are alumni and have donated a decent amount of cash to the school. I'm the earlier of the two, enrolled on a full scholarship. Now your telling me you wouldn't notice someone switching up their style? Especially after seeing them play and shoot at the same consistency for over 4 months on a near daily basis now? People notice, and care, especially when you beat them switching up styles.
It means I can make that shot, a VERY HIGH percent of the time. I did not claim to be able to make any two rail bank, but that shot is a simple use of side english near a corner pocket. Of course if you've never made the shot, or seen it, then you might not know how to make it.
I'm sorry to those who didn't like my post. Thanks if you gave a nice reply.
If you didn't like it, send me a PM with your address and I'll send you a shirt that says: I read some thread on the internet and all I got was this crappy T-shirt.
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Your second hunch answered the question, thanks for playing. Plus there was more talking between us. I never said I hated him, your just assuming that from the ominous view of him I gave you in my story. I still hang out with him, lift weights and shoot pool. I just don't like it when people get taken advantage of when they are new to something, and he is no exception. I don't like how he takes advantage of newcomers to pool. People are turned off from the great game of billiards/pool when they constantly loose and loose something like a couple dollars.
Do you shoot with someone regularly? Being on a college campus, confined to it for the most part as freshmen are not allowed to have cars on campus, thus no way off it, I shoot against the same group of people now. I can tell you how every one of them shoot, how every one of them breaks, and how everyone of them walks around the table. I go to a now 'ivy' league engineering college, and therefor am a very analytical person in general. The people at this school are either smart or have loaded parents who are alumni and have donated a decent amount of cash to the school. I'm the earlier of the two, enrolled on a full scholarship. Now your telling me you wouldn't notice someone switching up their style? Especially after seeing them play and shoot at the same consistency for over 4 months on a near daily basis now? People notice, and care, especially when you beat them switching up styles.
It means I can make that shot, a VERY HIGH percent of the time. I did not claim to be able to make any two rail bank, but that shot is a simple use of side english near a corner pocket. Of course if you've never made the shot, or seen it, then you might not know how to make it.
I'm sorry to those who didn't like my post. Thanks if you gave a nice reply.
If you didn't like it, send me a PM with your address and I'll send you a shirt that says: I read some thread on the internet and all I got was this crappy T-shirt.
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LoGiC said:
LoGiC...Ummm, let's see now...Steve Lipsky is a bonafide pro player. Now, who are you again?
Oh yeah, some college freshman that ONE time played good, but probably can occasionally run three balls. If you can claim to make this two rail shot a "VERY HIGH percent(age) of the time", I'd be willing to bet that there are only about 200+ posters here who would really like to take you up on that shot...betting AGAINST you, of course. No offense, but if you can beat everyone around you, you aren't looking very hard for more competition. You write a good story, and that's how it is being perceived. Whether you like it or not, just accept it for what we say it is...a good story...and let it go at that! Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I_Need_D_8 said:
I'm on the fence with this.
1. Be nice and agree with the concept of sticking up for the little guy (a story I know all too well)
2. Poke fun at the engineering aspect of pool (being one, I would have to say that one really doesn't exist)
3. Advice - since LoGiC doesn't know who he is talking to (pro's)
4. Examine that story for the improbable ( 2 9's on the snap = 30minutes)
5. Claim ignorance.
I think 5 is the easiest, so good job. I will now contemplate on what size T-shirt I want.
Thanks Scott. I'd hardly be considered a pro, but I'll say this: anyone who's impressed with himself when he runs a rack, is probably a smaller favorite on a 2-rail bank than he thinks he is. LOL.
Oh wait, he's shooting it with side english. That's what I keep forgetting to do. That newfangled english downright frightens me.
- Steve
P.S. I kinda feel bad about how this whole thing turned out. If it had been written with just a little less hubris, it'd have been a fun story for everyone. Sigh... we all learned, so will he...
Oh wait, he's shooting it with side english. That's what I keep forgetting to do. That newfangled english downright frightens me.
- Steve
P.S. I kinda feel bad about how this whole thing turned out. If it had been written with just a little less hubris, it'd have been a fun story for everyone. Sigh... we all learned, so will he...
Scott Lee said:LoGiC...Ummm, let's see now...Steve Lipsky is a bonafide pro player. Now, who are you again?
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
If your taking it as just a story, then leave it at that. Why bother posting asshole remarks talking shit? I wish the posters who responded negatively to it would have just said nice story instead. Don't believe me, then leave it be. If there's someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to believe this, I'd say you got bigger problems then some college kid on the internet. Great, steve is a bonafide pro player- congrats to him for making it. He also came off like a bonafide asshole, and I'll return it. Just because a lot of pros are assholes, doesn't mean everyone of them should be.
I already explained that I'm stuck here at college- and I wish I could find better players. I personally learn a lot more from losing, but I'm not stupid to continually bet and lose. You can call it cocky- I'll call it confident and bold. I love to shoot pool, but it won't be my life. It may be in my life for a long time- and hopefully I'll get to play some of you down the line. It'll have to wait though, because apparently its not humanly possible to run more than 3 balls if your a college kid. Guess I'll have to wait until I'm out of college then to play you guys then.
Its a real shame, because had those who have read this actually met me in the pool room, chances are we'd get along great. Thanks to those who have actually not been an asshole, I hope we can shoot a couple racks some time down the twisted line we call life. For you antagonists, go to your local hall, and if there's a person who seems real popular, surrounded by a group just having fun- thats me, and that's how I feel every player should be in the game. Disagreeing with me is fine, don't be an ass about it. You've never met me, so you have no right to judge me. I've got a good heart, but this heart can get ugly.
I_Need_D- chances are you need to pull it outta your mouth. This is the internet where everyone is a 10' monster with a huge cock and gigantic bulging muscles (no steroids though!) that can kick my ass in real life. PM me when you figure it out.
Pool not War
All of this anger and hostility will only get you older faster. Enjoy college and the relationships, because once marriage hits, and if your other half doesn't shoot stick, then chances are you will only be as good at pool as you are now. And since you are in Engineering, better worry more about getting some than pool, there are usually slim pickings in that major (been there, done that)
As you said, it is the internet. Chill out.
You're young, have a lot to learn, and IMO everyone needs to remember that and leave this post as a "story". True, not true, who cares. You aren't helping with that last post, but hey, do what you want.
Peace
LoGiC said:
All of this anger and hostility will only get you older faster. Enjoy college and the relationships, because once marriage hits, and if your other half doesn't shoot stick, then chances are you will only be as good at pool as you are now. And since you are in Engineering, better worry more about getting some than pool, there are usually slim pickings in that major (been there, done that)
As you said, it is the internet. Chill out.
You're young, have a lot to learn, and IMO everyone needs to remember that and leave this post as a "story". True, not true, who cares. You aren't helping with that last post, but hey, do what you want.
Peace
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NJ_Qball said:
Your, right. I guess I'm not helping the situation at all. As for getting some, I wouldn't have it any other way than with the best and brightest as my girl. Luckily my current girlfriend and I met in the pool hall here at college
. She enjoys shooting, and is utterly terrible at it (forgive me, but its true!) but I love her. I guess its the time down there that actually matters, not the results of the games you play. Looks like I did learn something after all.