@@@@huysmall i want my cue back@@@@

This is obviously going to continue until this whole deal is reversed and both parties have their original cues back, at least its out of the WFS section. If Marcus wants nothing to do with it im sure there are enough upstanding members on here that one of them would be happy to escrow the cue, or maybe contact Proficient billiards. Its really pretty simple, both parties post a highly detailed description of their cue and the cue they have now and once an agreement is reached then ship them out. Posting it here eliminates all the guess work and everything is out in the open. Its frustrating when things like this happen and the fact that its an overseas deal adds to the complexity, but its an aspect thats all part of it and always will be.
 
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so in the 1st round of the trade, Dale sent Huy a cue with ivory out of US?
 
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No escrow should be done at this time. This is something you guys should do before trading your cues not after the whole mess.
Anyway this gone to far.

Chris
 
sengkun108 said:
what are you talking about...this guy want to be responsible of the problem...he pay escrow service 100%...and that is the right thing to do after all the problem here.....

you suggest him to sent his cue back to USA, and just blindly trust the man who already put a lot of negativity over him....are you drunk...if you are on the huys place right now ...what will you do....:rolleyes:
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I'm sorry, but i just don't see how escrow will help, unless one of you think the other will not ship their cue back. Who's better to judge the cues condition upon return, the owner, or someone that's never seen the cue in person before? Does'nt make sense, to me at least. I think they should both promise to ship each others cues back at the same time, and follow thru on that promise. Hopefully, the cues will be in the same condition, and this debacle will be over.
 
I have been following this closely.

The escrow maneuver is BS.

Send the cue back to the rightful owner and injured party.

It is a very real concern that you might have already damaged that cue as you have already demonstrated the capability of intentionally damaging high quality cues with the very sad excuse of attempting to improve them. This is a serious error, not a cultural variation or preference. It would seem that the risk is not yours but the other party's, so insisting on escrow seems to be nonsense.






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sengkun108 said:
what are you talking about...this guy want to be responsible of the problem...he pay escrow service 100%...and that is the right thing to do after all the problem here.....

you suggest him to sent his cue back to USA, and just blindly trust the man who already put a lot of negativity over him....are you drunk...if you are on the huys place right now ...what will you do....:rolleyes:
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This makes sense. NOT! Dale has around 100 transactions here with a 100% positive rating. huysmall clearly pulled a scumbag stunt and is now obviously searching for any stalling tactic available to avoid making the deal right. huysmall is the sole reason this problem exists, the responsibility is his to make it right. Dale wouldn't have put any negativity on huysmall had he not been blatantly lied to. Which part of that are you struggling to understand? I think you must be the one that is drunk dude.

Anybody that trusts huysmall, or any of his compadres, from this point forward needs their head examined.
 
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I'm sorry, but i just don't see how escrow will help, unless one of you think the other will not ship their cue back. Who's better to judge the cues condition upon return, the owner, or someone that's never seen the cue in person before? Does'nt make sense, to me at least. I think they should both promise to ship each others cues back at the same time, and follow thru on that promise. Hopefully, the cues will be in the same condition, and this debacle will be over.
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How can the escrow can not help......huy don't trust dale anymore after he give the option to trade back and dale not take that option and still bash him in the thread ....and i also believe that dale is not trust huy either...so how the hell could they make some transaction while actually they don't trust each other....Huy already come with a solution that he will pay the escrow service 100%......if you want to help them, find out a respective member here who willing to be the escrow service..
 
nobcitypool said:
This makes sense. NOT! Dale has around 100 transactions here with a 100% positive rating. huysmall clearly pulled a scumbag stunt and is now obviously searching for any stalling tactic available to avoid making the deal right. huysmall is the sole reason this problem exists, the responsibility is his to make it right. Dale wouldn't have put any negativity on huysmall had he not been blatantly lied to. Which part of that are you struggling to understand? I think you must be the one that is drunk dude.

Anybody that trusts huysmall, or any of his compadres, from this point forward needs their head examined.
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i don't have to trust anybody in this thread, because i don't know both party.......the fact is very clear...that is

1. dale and huy make a cue trade....dale is not happy, because he find out that the shaft is not what he expected... it's still 13 mm shaft, but with some heavy blueing and that is not what he thingking about a nearly new condition shaft..

2. huy come with an argument that there is some miscommunication...that dale can not accept...

So, until now there is a question ...is huy a liar or both party got some misscomunication......So, there is just two option Huy's a liar or the argument he told us is true....there is NO way that he is a Scam, because he STILL sent the cue to dale...

second part is after all this drama...huy come with a 2 option solution
A. 50$
B. Trade back with split cost for shipping..

Dale still insist with 200$ that is not reasonable offer and still insult and bash huy in the Forum... And when finally dale want to take the B option huy is already give up to trust him and ask a escrow service

So, if you don't drunk enough you would find out, that this Huy guy want to end the problem with solution, but dale is angry enough and blindly not see the real situation and miss the chance to end this problem with peace.....
 
Huy send my cue back...I'm getting tired of your excuses..Quit stalling..You have had ample time to find a acceptable escrow service, and have failed to keep me updated..This issue is not going away!!
 
sengkun108 said:
i don't have to trust anybody in this thread, because i don't know both party.......the fact is very clear...that is

1. dale and huy make a cue trade....dale is not happy, because he find out that the shaft is not what he expected... it's still 13 mm shaft, but with some heavy blueing and that is not what he thingking about a nearly new condition shaft..

Heavy bluing was not the issue at all. huysmall had the one shaft stripped of a layer. HUGE difference between stripping a layer and heavy bluing. But please don't let me confuse the issue with the real facts.

2. huy come with an argument that there is some miscommunication...that dale can not accept...

Some communication? huy refused to even acknolwedge the problem or respond to Dale until after it was evident he was being tried in the court of his peers here and had been found GUILTY. Only then did he start making excuses, such as the language barrier, which was complete BS.

So, until now there is a question ...is huy a liar or both party got some misscomunication

Pretty evident to everyone except you that huy is a liar. To a degree, that is irrelevant. Liar or not, miscommunication or not, the fact is the cue huy sent to Dale was not as he described. One shaft had a layer stripped from it. Regardless of the reason huy did that, the responsibility is his to fix. huy has ZERO complaints about the cue sent to him by Dale. It was EXACTLY as described.
......So, there is just two option Huy's a liar or the argument he told us is true....there is NO way that he is a Scam, because he STILL sent the cue to dale...

second part is after all this drama...huy come with a 2 option solution
A. 50$
B. Trade back with split cost for shipping..

Dale still insist with 200$ that is not reasonable offer and still insult and bash huy in the Forum... And when finally dale want to take the B option huy is already give up to trust him and ask a escrow service. huy is throwing out the escrow crap as a stalling tactic. Why should Dale submit to an escrow service, he has proven himself at AZ over 100 times to be a trustworthy guy and he proved it with what he sent to huy. huy caused this, Dale shouldn't have to be inconvenienced any further than he already has been to make things right, that's huy's responsibility.

So, if you don't drunk enough you would find out, that this Huy guy want to end the problem with solution, but dale is angry enough and blindly not see the real situation and miss the chance to end this problem with peace..... It's appears stupidity, not alcohol, is the problem with your understanding. Or a disproportionate bias towards huy. Or both.
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huy, your opportunity to salvage your reputation here grows weaker each day. If the word integrity translate to your language, please show some and end this fiasco.
 
nobcitypool said:
huy, your opportunity to salvage your reputation here grows weaker each day. If the word integrity translate to your language, please show some and end this fiasco.
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It's quite funny that my integrity is in question especially when I probably have more positive transactions than all of the naysayers combined...

Huy I want my cue back, or send me $200.00 paypal...You have stalled long enough..
 
6 days and no resolution

Lets go Huy...It's been 6 days since your last post...I want my cue back Huy...This is B.S.
 
Huy you have ...

1. Lied about the condition of the cue..

2. Lied about the cue's origin..

3. Done nothing to initiate your resolution of trading back..


I have 108 positive transactions on this site (more transactions prior to i-trader), and most of the comments read that I have gone above and beyond in satisfying the other half in trades, purchases, and selling..

You and your supporters have the balls to question my integrity when all of your positive transactions total are miniscule in comparison...

This has been going on for 3 weeks, and you have done nothing to make this right..I want my cue back!
 
nobcitypool said:
huy, your opportunity to salvage your reputation here grows weaker each day. If the word integrity translate to your language, please show some and end this fiasco.
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if you insist that huy is lying to dale in the first place ..okk to me.

OKKK....let's we both assume that Huy is a liar.....He already lied to dale in the first place that this shaft got some issue......ignore all the the mail and Pm that dale sent to him until he got caught here and try to escape from what he did by throwing some solution...

the solution was trade back the cue and he pay all the charging fee of escrow service.... if some body on this earth say that because dale has got 100 positive transaction here or maybe even 1000 or 10.000 positive rep here....so they don't need to looking for an escrow service that's is a BULLSHIT.......TRUSTTT because he got so many positive rep....Why the hell that huy has got to trust to somebody that he is trying to lie with in the first place....why that huy has to trust dale after all what dale did in this forum to him....

i will let you know something and hopefully it will open your ignorance and stupidity...all of the mega transaction with alot of money and involve 2 mega company that got a lot of perfect reputation still need a Lawyer to be the third party...

if i want a big collector cue that cost me 100,000 $ ...i don't really care about the how many positive rep that he got....i still ask the escrow service from a reputable member here....and if you ask all the member here....i believe many member will agree with my point of view.
 
sengkun108 said:
if you insist that huy is lying to dale in the first place ..okk to me.

OKKK....let's we both assume that Huy is a liar.....He already lied to dale in the first place that this shaft got some issue......ignore all the the mail and Pm that dale sent to him until he got caught here and try to escape from what he did by throwing some solution...

the solution was trade back the cue and he pay all the charging fee of escrow service.... if some body on this earth say that because dale has got 100 positive transaction here or maybe even 1000 or 10.000 positive rep here....so they don't need to looking for an escrow service that's is a BULLSHIT.......TRUSTTT because he got so many positive rep....Why the hell that huy has got to trust to somebody that he is trying to lie with in the first place....why that huy has to trust dale after all what dale did in this forum to him....

i will let you know something and hopefully it will open your ignorance and stupidity...all of the mega transaction with alot of money and involve 2 mega company that got a lot of perfect reputation still need a Lawyer to be the third party...

if i want a big collector cue that cost me 100,000 $ ...i don't really care about the how many positive rep that he got....i still ask the escrow service from a reputable member here....and if you ask all the member here....i believe many member will agree with my point of view.
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I do agree with you.If the 2 party's involved don't see eye to eye,its
smart to get a middle man, who is impartial and will give a un-bias opinion
on the cues.If all is good,then the mess is clear and life goes on.
No matter who is right or wrong,the longer the battle continues will
tarnish the rep of both party's involved to some degree.
Both party's should swallow there pride and do the simplest way of
resolving it.
 
scsuxci said:
I do agree with you.If the 2 party's involved don't see eye to eye,its
smart to get a middle man, who is impartial and will give a un-bias opinion
on the cues.If all is good,then the mess is clear and life goes on.
No matter who is right or wrong,the longer the battle continues will
tarnish the rep of both party's involved to some degree.
Both party's should swallow there pride and do the simplest way of
resolving it.
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Are you kidding me? This isn't a minor bump, or bruise..This a shaft that has been peeled..It's up to the seller to disclose the condition of the cue he is offering for sale..It's that simple

Now to add insult to this transaction..

I asked huy if the shafts were original to the cue..His answer yes

I asked huy about the condition of the cue..dings, dents, blems, etc.His answer nearly excellent condition..a peeled shaft does not fall into a category of nearly excellent condition...

This isn't about a small issue we can't see eye to eye..This is a issue of full blown deception...
 
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Yeah, this Huy character is banned for good in my book.
He is so wrong here and still, he is trying to give a hard time about it. AMAZING!
 
snowmon34 said:
Are you kidding me? This isn't a minor bump, or bruise..This a shaft that has been peeled..It's up to the seller to disclose the condition of the cue he is offering for sale..It's that simple

Now to add insult to this transaction..

I asked huy if the shafts were original to the cue..His answer yes

I asked huy about the condition of the cue..dings, dents, blems, etc.His answer nearly excellent condition..a peeled shaft does not fall into a category of nearly excellent condition...

This isn't about a small issue we can't see eye to eye..This is a issue of full blown deception...
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there must be somebody on the forum that
would be the middleman and make sure both cues are the way they were.
You don't trust him(for good reason) and he doesn't trust or maybe like
you would be a better word.Hell,I would tell you guys to send the cues to me but I live in Canada.I would ship them at my own expense so you guys could resolve this.I'm not saying your wrong but if he wants a middleman
than do it as long as he's paying there shouldn't be a problem.If you really do like that cue,ship the shaft to me and I'll have it redone for you at
no expense to you and it'll look fantastic.
Think about it,if you want to keep it.Takecare Scott
 
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