Hybrid Shafts.

JPB2 said:
I don’t know if it would distract me while shooting. But the look would nag at me. Like seeing the cue when I’m switching from my break cue to playing cue or when putting it together. The look would bother me enough that I don’t think I’d ever like the shaft. Could I get past that if the shaft played great? Probably not because I doubt it would play orders of magnitude better than other options. So I’d likely never get to where I really liked it.

Some is almost a subconscious nag. For instance, I don’t like shafts that don’t match the ringwork on the butt. It is common now for players to use a performance shaft with just a black collar or whatever that doesn’t match the butt. You don’t notice that when shooting but it bothers me to the point I don’t like it. Could I tolerate a backup shaft having a plain collar? Maybe, probably, but it would be a true backup. Like I said it is subjective. If the cue had a plain black collar, no problem. Likewise, I could tolerate a variety of shafts and cues with different looks, but if the look is something I really dislike or it nags me like the mismatch shaft rings, I don’t want it. The half and half shaft seems to fit in that category for me. But I haven’t seen one in person or hit with one.
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Thanks for the feedback.
 
Best wood shaft i've ever hit is the Mezz HybridPro(1st version). It had a inner carbon tube, 12.8mm with a Schon-like taper. Hit really firm but was sorta medium-lo squirt. I had to sell the cue but i'm trying to get it back. The dude that bought it doesn't use it and its just a case queen to him.
 
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One thing about these, after buying a few gross of shaft blanks I found a lot of them were good for twenty inches, not thirty. This would let the more radical curves be in the wood taper and the straight of the shaft or single taper be in the carbon fiber. I haven't seen anyone do it yet but it seems like the thickness of the CF could be varied by altering the inside taper of the carbon fiber. This would be a huge advantage as a true zero taper pro taper shaft would be possible. A wooden zero taper wooden shaft flexes at the beginning of the increasing taper and plain sucks. Earl was rumored to be playing with a zero taper wooden shaft with sixteen inches of zero taper. With a gross of blanks I turned one like that. It did all the flexing halfway up the shaft and was unplayable. Only shaft I ever snapped, I didn't want it out in the world with my name on it!

I have considerd these hybrids, didn't figure I was the only one. I'll be watching. I have tried a few of the full CF shafts. All OK but some much better for me than others.

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garczar said:
Best wood shaft i've ever hit is the Mezz HybridPro(1st version). It had a inner carbon tube, 12.8mm with a Schon-like taper. Hit really firm but was sorta medium-lo squirt. I had to sell the cue but i'm trying to get it back. The dude that bought it doesn't use it and its just a case queen to him.
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Be nice to get that back in your hands eh??
 
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If you want hybrid, go full hybrid of CF inside maple at one end and just CF at other. Cuelees EX Solid appears to be maple at tip end with carbon fiber tube inside AND, at joint end, only carbon fiber.

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BigBreakSheikhYT said:
Cuelees Ex Solid: My favorite shaft ever. 12.2mm diameter (which is just perfect imho) solid maple with a carbon fiber core with a carbon fiber base. This shaft is just perfect. Very low deflection - extremely solid - lots of feedback - and great power. There is nothing on the market that I've tried that feels remotely as good. Won lots of matches and tournaments with this shaft.
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Paul_#_ said:
If you want hybrid, go full hybrid of CF inside maple at one end and just CF at other. Cuelees EView attachment 883388X Solid appears to be maple at tip end with carbon fiber tube inside AND, at joint end, only carbon fiber.

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All that does is increase the stability and stiffness, it would still require alternate means of reducing end mass to make it ld. This hybrid lowers deflection and increases stiffness. I considered doing the carbon core a decade and a half ago and just decided it wasn't worth the effort. My whole goal was to get the benefits of ld tech while having the feel of wood. Even the early wooden ld shafts had a hollow feel and feedback that I just didn't like.

My first LD shaft design was a standard wood, with the first several inches cored out to reduce end mass and squirt with a smaller center shaft dowel in the core and then mounted into the back of the ferrule. This still gave the center hit feel of a solid maple shaft with the lowered end mass of a ld shaft.
 
Mensabum said:
Dead stick.
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Surprisingly deflection was very low. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the length or damper, or what, but the one I played with hit very well. Firm, perhaps stiff even, attributable somewhat to the extremely hard tip I put on it, but the feedback was like a maple shaft. My problem with CF is feeling the shot. I go long with CF bcuz of the dead stick component. Perhaps my game just sucks.🤣
I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked it, bcuz I didn't want to going in.
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I went to a tournament last night. I've tried carbon fiber, Torrified maple, etc, and I keep coming back to my basic AVID (Cuetec) shaft.
Sometimes a product just "fits." Doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg...
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Paul_#_ said:
If you want hybrid, go full hybrid of CF inside maple at one end and just CF at other. Cuelees EView attachment 883388X Solid appears to be maple at tip end with carbon fiber tube inside AND, at joint end, only carbon fiber.

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That's not a true hybrid. That's a tubed clone of other companies copying each other.
A hybrid is maple base shaft with a CF head. No tubes or inserts or what have you. The quality of which is dependant upon whom you get one from.
 
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