Hypnosis

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I'm curious to hear comments regarding the effectiveness of hypnosis relative to improving the mental side of your pool game.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has taken the leap and tried this.

I often think of trying it, but on at least two levels, I quickly disregard it. The first is I simply don't believe it could work. Secondly, I think, even if it had merit, the chances of finding someone other than a quack hypnotist, would be like finding a needle in a haystack.

Any thoughts?
 
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I believe Louie Roberts tried this back in the late 70's. I know I was at one tournament and he told me the man with him was his hypnotist. He played a lot like he was in a trance sometimes.
Good luck ..
 
3andstop said:
I'm curious to hear comments regarding the effectiveness of hypnosis relative to improving the mental side of your pool game.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has taken the leap and tried this.

I often think of trying it, but on at least two levels, I quickly disregard it. The first is I simply don't believe it could work. Secondly, I think, even if it had merit, the chances of finding someone other than a quack hypnotist, would be like finding a needle in a haystack.

Any thoughts?
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3andstop,
I actually think Hypnosis has some practical applications for some things, smoking cessation, addiction anything where there is a problem and possibly if you have a problem associated with pool but its a stretch for pool...i mean what are you going to tell someone......ok now go and miss no more?....I think you can convince youreself to bear down and stop letting up. I think you can convince yourself stop doing something stupid. Im not sure you can hug your inner pool player unless your hypnotist really knows how to eliminate all of your crazy mistakes but Im always open for new ideas.....come on man go do it and show us what you got!!!!

Just another lovely day in paradise...

336Robin

aimisthegameinpool.com
aimisthegameinpool@yahoo.com
 
Yes, hypnosis is effective for improvement in many areas of life. I have used self-hypnosis for several things, including pool. Amazon has several books and tapes and for very little money you can try it yourself. It's harmless.
 
Google Ryan Elliott & Associates

Winfield, IL. 68198

I have his "Overcoming Contenderosis" package and it works, not only for pool but for life in general. Highly recommended.

You wont be sorry.

John
 
It made and continues to make a huge difference for me. I also include meditation in my routine. You don't have to go see a hypnotist either, there are people on this forum like "edd" (Lawrence) who sell self-hypnosis CDs that are far cheaper than even 1 visit to a hypnotist.

As far as, "I don't think this will work", you can prevent yourself from allowing anything to help you. If you're simply nervous it won't work you can start off with what is for me the easiest method of meditation: Progressive Muscle Relaxation.

If you want to move further try, Breath Meditation

If you're still happy with the results and want to move further, talk Edd about one of his CDs.

Finally, you can move into self-hypnosis where, using the tools learned in the previous methods, you design your own cues and steps. You guide everything. But without the previous steps it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to keep your conscious mind from trying to control it.

There is enough scientific evidence out there to show that meditation alters the actual structure of your brain and is used successfully to treat conditions like OCD, and anxiety disorders. It does work, surprisingly well, but like outside draw, it takes a little practice.

Researchers at Harvard, Yale, and MIT conducted brain scans that reveal an increased thickness in the parts of the brain that deal with attention and sensory input processing. Using magnetic resonance imaging, they visualized variations in the thickness of the cerebral cortex of experienced Buddhist Insight meditation practitioners. The data show that regular practice of meditation is associated with increased thickness in a subset of cortical regions related to somatosensory, auditory, visual and interoceptive processing. Further, regular meditation practice may slow age-related thinning of the frontal cortex, leading to longer lasting executive functioning.
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I've found self-hypnosis works just fine. It is a great way to relax your body and your mind. Relaxation is the key for me.

One of the AZB members Edd has a professionally done hypnosis cd designed for pool players and you can learn more about him and the cd by clicking here.

I don't always use it before matches but I find it extremely relaxing and that's what I need since I am wound so tight before a match. :p

As far as making me more focused or more competitive, the school's out on that. I do know that when I do the self-hypnosis thing I am more relaxed.

I also had a custom self-hypnosis cd made by Dr. Relax many years ago and occasionally listen to it as well.
 
JoeyA said:
I've found self-hypnosis works just fine. It is a great way to relax your body and your mind. Relaxation is the key for me.

One of the AZB members Edd has a professionally done hypnosis cd designed for pool players and you can learn more about him and the cd by clicking here.

I don't always use it before matches but I find it extremely relaxing and that's what I need since I am wound so tight before a match. :p

As far as making me more focused or more competitive, the school's out on that. I do know that when I do the self-hypnosis thing I am more relaxed.

I also had a custom self-hypnosis cd made by Dr. Relax many years ago and occasionally listen to it as well.
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Oh yeah, eons ago I tried Ryan Elliott's hypnosis CD's when they were on cassette tapes. :grin-square:
 
I think the key here is, if you believe it could help...then it has a good chance...

It is definitely not a single-click solution to everything. it will not fix your technical issues, but it can help on the mental side.

It can help you by teaching you techniques on dealing with your stress. I personally try to use some breathing techniques and some visual memory exercises...even during a match.... and that is not million miles away from self-hypnosis.

Mind is a wonderful thing to waste....but even more wonderful when you learn to use it to your benefit. Learn to control it a little and it will help you be in control of your game rather than let all the outside influences be in control of you.
 
Dude it had no effect on me.
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3andstop said:
I'm curious to hear comments regarding the effectiveness of hypnosis relative to improving the mental side of your pool game.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has taken the leap and tried this.

I often think of trying it, but on at least two levels, I quickly disregard it. The first is I simply don't believe it could work. Secondly, I think, even if it had merit, the chances of finding someone other than a quack hypnotist, would be like finding a needle in a haystack.

Any thoughts?
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Anything that can be done with hypnosis can be done without hypnosis. It is of use in the treatment of various problems and may help you learn to improve your focus among other things. For long term changes Deep Muscle Relaxation or Progressive Muscle Relaxation is probably more effective for the average pool player. See http://www.guidetopsychology.com/pmr.htm or my article on Dr Dave's web site for an intro to the field as seen from a pool player's perspective.
http://billiards.colostate.edu/PBReview/Competitive_Anxiety.htm. I also have an article on hypnosis and pool playing here http://billiards.colostate.edu/PBReview/Hypnosis_And_Pool.htm

Unless you have a pecific problem try self hypnosis. See Leslie LeCron's text
http://www.amazon.com/Self-Hypnotism-Technique-Daily-Living-Signet/dp/0451159845

I usually recommend Cherith Powell's Self Hypnosis Kit for those who are reasonably serious

http://www.amazon.com/Self-Hypnosis-Kit-Cherith-Powell/dp/0752205455. She is a well recognized expert in England. Her text comes with an audio tape that is one of the best I have reviewed.
 
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JoeW said:
Anything that can be done with hypnosis can be done without hypnosis. It is of use in the treatment of various problems and may help you learn to improve your focus among other things. For long term changes Deep Muscle Relaxation or Progressive Muscle Relaxation is probably more effective for the average pool player. See http://www.guidetopsychology.com/pmr.htm or my article on Dr Dave's web site= for an intro to the field as seen from a pool player's perspective.
http://billiards.colostate.edu/PBReview/Competitive_Anxiety.htm

Unless you have a pecific problem try self hypnosis. See Leslie LeCron's text
http://www.amazon.com/Self-Hypnotism-Technique-Daily-Living-Signet/dp/0451159845

I usually recommend Cherith Powell's Self Hypnosis Kit for those who are reasonably serious

http://www.amazon.com/Self-Hypnosis-Kit-Cherith-Powell/dp/0752205455. She is a well recognized expert in England. Her text comes with an audio tape that is one of the best I have reviewed.
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I'll second Cherith Powell's stuff.
 
it depends

I have used hypnosis tapes and have noticed improvements.I usually play the audios while taking a saunna.If I'm alone I generally absorb more but if I have "company"the focus is more "not" absorbing but rather the opposite.:smile: It's hard to multi-task in a hot saunna with "company":(
 
336Robin said:
3andstop,
I actually think Hypnosis has some practical applications for some things, smoking cessation, addiction anything where there is a problem and possibly if you have a problem associated with pool but its a stretch for pool...i mean what are you going to tell someone......ok now go and miss no more?....I think you can convince youreself to bear down and stop letting up. I think you can convince yourself stop doing something stupid. Im not sure you can hug your inner pool player unless your hypnotist really knows how to eliminate all of your crazy mistakes but Im always open for new ideas.....come on man go do it and show us what you got!!!!

Just another lovely day in paradise...

336Robin

aimisthegameinpool.com
aimisthegameinpool@yahoo.com
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This reminds me of when I was recovering from shoulder surgery and I asked my PT if I was going to be able to pitch MLB baseball. She smiled and asked me if I could before. :smile: I was just trying to make small take anyway. The point is that a skill set is acquired and nothing can replace practice and having the God given talent. But hypnosis can probably help with relaxation, focus and concentration.
 
I just bought Jimmy Reid's complete DVD/CD package, which includes a nighttime self-hypnosis routine.

I've ALWAYS had a lot of trouble falling asleep. I might lay there for an hour or 2 before fitfully drifting off. I've listened to Jimmy's CD for the past 4-5 nights and after 15 min. I'm out like a light. Each and every night. He has an extremely soothing voice and the techniques just make feel like I'm floating.

As a related consequence, I used his cue/trigger to help me out in a tournament 2 nights ago and made it to the winner's bracket finals. Eventually got 3rd.

That one CD has already made it one of the best investments I've ever tried.

But, remember, you still gotta want to and you still gotta believe. Be positive.

Thanks, Jimmy!
 
Take it from me, hypnosis does not work.
I looked for a hypnotist in the yellow pages, hoping to find someone who could help my pool play by improving my stroke. I found the number of a guy by the name of Swami Rashid Silverstein, and gave him a call.
Swami Silverstein told me that in only one short session I could see an immediate improvement. I scheduled an appointment for the following day.
Twenty-four hours later I was in to the Swami's office, which was actually a closed in back porch of a two-bedroom duplex, and was told by a fat woman smoking a cigarette, to take my clothes off and lie down on the couch near the window. She informed me the Swami would be in momentarily. The place smelled like incense and stale beer.
It wasn't long before Swami Silverstein came into the room. I was glad because I was getting cold. There was a draft coming from the window.
The Swami, who actually did look like a swami with his long white robe, and turban headgear, produced a large gold pocket watch and began swinging it back and forth, in front of my face, saying, "You are going into a deep sleep. When you awaken, your stroke will have improved one-hundred percent."
Well, that's the last thing I remember until I woke up at the Police Station with nothing on, but a blanket wrapped around my shoulders. I asked what happened and the arresting office said they found me naked, at a bus stop, playing with myself, and eating a banana.
So far, I don't know if my stroke has improved, or not. :smile:
 
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Tramp Steamer said:
Take it from me, hypnosis does not work.
I looked for a hypnotist in the yellow pages, hoping to find someone who could help my pool play by improving my stroke. I found the number of a guy by the name of Swami Rashid Silverstein, and gave him a call.
Swami Silverstein told me that in only one short session I could see an immediate improvement. I scheduled an appointment for the following day.
Twenty-four hours later I was in to the Swami's office, which was actually a closed in back porch of a two-bedroom duplex, and was told by a fat woman smoking a cigarette, to take my clothes off and lie down on the couch near the window. She informed me the Swami would be in momentarily. The place smelled like incense and stale beer.
It wasn't long before Swami Silverstein came into the room. I was glad because I was getting cold. There was a draft coming from the window.
The Swami, who actually did look like a swami with his long white robe, and turban headgear, produced a large gold pocket watch and began swinging it back and forth, in front of my face, saying, "You are going into a deep sleep. When you awaken, your stroke will have improved one-hundred percent."
Well, that's the last thing I remember until I woke up at the Police Station with nothing on, but a blanket wrapped around my shoulders. I asked what happened and the arresting office said they found me naked, at a bus stop, playing with myself, and eating a banana.
So far, I don't know if my stroke has improved, or not. :smile:
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Hmmm... interesting. How much did that cost? You still got the phone number?
 
Some good stuff, with one exception hypnosis has absolutely nothing to with relaxation. You do not need to relax to bypass the critcal faculty of the conscious mind.

Second read arthur allens book on casework of a hypnotist. He explains how he helped Maury Wills overcome issues through hypnosis to become an amazing baseball player.

Having the opportunity to be be hypnotized and hypnotize people I can tell you changes can be made in a twinkilng of an eye, with a speed induction and compounding of suggestions when desling directly wuth the subconscious.

Last, look up Gerald Kein's rules the mind

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