I am a Producer for American Road Player, Let's Talk

Blue Hog ridr

World Famous Fisherman.
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I know that altho you are a new member, you can't be John Barton, because John would never say something like that.

Unless?
 

SidePocketProd

AzB Silver Member
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QUOTE - Originally posted by Blue Hog ridr

That's very cool and possible to do with these characters. But, considering the average intelligence of viewers that do watch reality Shows, do you believe that they will be able to tell a difference.

They hear a pop top on a beer can, a bag of Doritos being torn open and they start salivating like Pavlov's Puppy.[/QUOTE]




You are right in the fact that there is a great deal of bad "reality" entertainment out there. I believe that if you find interesting characters inside this sport and tell their stories in way that an audience can connect to it, the presentation will be well received and ultimately successful. After all, we want to be entertained don't we, so let's give the public an opportunity to experience a lifestyle that is clearly still a major part of this sport.
 
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lost

AzB Silver Member
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That's very cool and possible to do with these characters. But, considering the average intelligence of viewers that do watch reality Shows, do you believe that they will be able to tell a difference.

They hear a pop top on a beer can, a bag of Doritos being torn open and they start salivating like Pavlov's Puppy.

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Sounds like Professor Jonathan Gruber's thought process.
 

SouthernDraw

AzB Silver Member
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Now that is funny!

I won't support hustling culture.

That's pretty funny. Thought I remembered your post somewhere. If you click on your username and then click on "Find all posts by ..." You will find your previous post (on your own thread btw) suggesting that Lou should gamble with Stan about the legitimacy of CTE. The thread is closed, but it still shows up on your panel.

Now, I don't care about CTE. But, one thread glorifying gambling and a couple weeks later berating hustling just makes me laugh about some people that post here. One minute CTE is the devil, the next minute fans cheering in the crowd is the devil. Just wait a few weeks and he'll blame Opie Taylor. Gotta luv it!
 

DirtyJersey

AzB Silver Member
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Sounds like the Spanky I know. I have footage of Scooter shaving Spanky's head after losing a match. There are stories every night! Thanks for the support and don't forget to spread the word and check out the campaign site.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/american-road-player/x/9130349#home

Yeah I know all about the hair cutting incident, but I didn't want to let out any spoilers. I got footage of him recently embarrassing someone in a bet but kept it to myself cause it was just too demeaning for the loser.
 

maha

from way back when
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looks like an underfunded try at hitting the jackpot. no way is 40 grand going to do anything but support the owners for a short time.
so far i didnt find and maybe i missed them, the costs of production and where the money is supposed to go, and of course a business plan, and who is going to put this on the air.

if legit then there should be an escrow account with all the money in it donated and guaranteed to be returned. and what % the donators will get if successful. isnt that part of it?

i hope its successful but there are a million other good hearted good intention business plans with too little backing and not enough experience to make it.
 

KRJ

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I think this is the best idea goin right now for pool. What's not to like, plus a city to city tour while they are in action. With the intent to get this in front of the American public, very cool.

I'm in, just trying to figure out what level im buying in at, the derby city package has peaked my interest ,,,,good luck :thumbup:
 

Texdance

AzB Silver Member
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If you want me to think the show is not scripted, show the full shot when the chump missed a 9-ball for the cheese, instead of pulling back and leaving out the last foot of the shot, so no one really knows if the ball went in, or stayed out with the help from an assistant, or really was a miss.

Don't forget pool has a long and semi-honorable history of dumping today's match to make more money tomorrow. If you want the reality of gambling on pool, you have to include dumping on friends, acquaintances, backers, mothers fathers sisters cousins and wives. Reality TV is based on hurting people, and there is no hurt like what a person feels when they find out they've just been shafted by their family, partner or so-called friend.

It's not all fun and games, this gambling thing, like it might be in a casino where the house always has an edge to provide their profitability so a person leaving winner is actually good for the house in the long run. No, there is always a loser, who may suffer from gambling addiction and be losing the family house payment, or playing on money stolen out of his mother's purse, or, to keep it real, playing on money stolen from the family that owns a car wash.

Action sounds great, but pool action has been declining for years despite all the people claiming to love to see action. You think people will watch this because Scooter is entertaining and might win. I think people will not watch it because of two reasons: the portion of TV viewers interested in pool "action" is a very small percentage; and most of America is already fed up with Unreal Reality TV (no one really believes your claim that it will not be scripted, for sure it will if you ever get to the point where national sponsors are paying the bills). I think you guys are three years or more late to the Reality TV party.

And last, $2500 is a really small bankroll, why so cheap, especially with such a large crew of bandits?

What's the script say they will do when they go broke - or have you forgot that, in reality, every road player goes broke, barring the few exceptional individuals who have a wife or a business to provide a steady funding stream?

Back in the day of great pool action there were a few backers with huge cash flow streams who were action junkies, unaware and uncaring of where they stood in the win-loss column, willing to take 50% of the winnings and pay off 100% of the losses day after day, a statistically sure way to lose money. They were playing a role of big time gambler, and for all I know enjoying every minute of it, because it was their money to spend as they liked. They injected huge amounts of cash into the pool gambling scene, and kept it afloat. Take away a handful of those backers (or rich losers, same thing) and there never would have been a big pool action scene, just a few guys betting their own money and hoping to make expenses.
 

KRJ

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If you want me to think the show is not scripted, show the full shot when the chump missed a 9-ball for the cheese, instead of pulling back and leaving out the last foot of the shot, so no one really knows if the ball went in, or stayed out with the help from an assistant, or really was a miss.

Don't forget pool has a long and semi-honorable history of dumping today's match to make more money tomorrow. If you want the reality of gambling on pool, you have to include dumping on friends, acquaintances, backers, mothers fathers sisters cousins and wives. Reality TV is based on hurting people, and there is no hurt like what a person feels when they find out they've just been shafted by their family, partner or so-called friend.

It's not all fun and games, this gambling thing, like it might be in a casino where the house always has an edge to provide their profitability so a person leaving winner is actually good for the house in the long run. No, there is always a loser, who may suffer from gambling addiction and be losing the family house payment, or playing on money stolen out of his mother's purse, or, to keep it real, playing on money stolen from the family that owns a car wash.

Action sounds great, but pool action has been declining for years despite all the people claiming to love to see action. You think people will watch this because Scooter is entertaining and might win. I think people will not watch it because of two reasons: the portion of TV viewers interested in pool "action" is a very small percentage; and most of America is already fed up with Unreal Reality TV (no one really believes your claim that it will not be scripted, for sure it will if you ever get to the point where national sponsors are paying the bills). I think you guys are three years or more late to the Reality TV party.

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Yes, because it will be so easy to fake shots with live rail birds watching, not tied to the show......geez...

Really, you have zero experience on TV and have the gall to tell them they are late to the show for reality TV....ummm, they have new shows all the time.....hello ??

And as long as Crisley knows best is still on TV, there has to be hope for pool......the show has to the worst reality show in Tv history yet 1.5 million viewers turn in to watch it...
 

one stroke

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
If you want me to think the show is not scripted, show the full shot when the chump missed a 9-ball for the cheese, instead of pulling back and leaving out the last foot of the shot, so no one really knows if the ball went in, or stayed out with the help from an assistant, or really was a miss.

Don't forget pool has a long and semi-honorable history of dumping today's match to make more money tomorrow. If you want the reality of gambling on pool, you have to include dumping on friends, acquaintances, backers, mothers fathers sisters cousins and wives. Reality TV is based on hurting people, and there is no hurt like what a person feels when they find out they've just been shafted by their family, partner or so-called friend.

It's not all fun and games, this gambling thing, like it might be in a casino where the house always has an edge to provide their profitability so a person leaving winner is actually good for the house in the long run. No, there is always a loser, who may suffer from gambling addiction and be losing the family house payment, or playing on money stolen out of his mother's purse, or, to keep it real, playing on money stolen from the family that owns a car wash.

Action sounds great, but pool action has been declining for years despite all the people claiming to love to see action. You think people will watch this because Scooter is entertaining and might win. I think people will not watch it because of two reasons: the portion of TV viewers interested in pool "action" is a very small percentage; and most of America is already fed up with Unreal Reality TV (no one really believes your claim that it will not be scripted, for sure it will if you ever get to the point where national sponsors are paying the bills). I think you guys are three years or more late to the Reality TV party.

And last, $2500 is a really small bankroll, why so cheap, especially with such a large crew of bandits?

What's the script say they will do when they go broke - or have you forgot that, in reality, every road player goes broke, barring the few exceptional individuals who have a wife or a business to provide a steady funding stream?

Back in the day of great pool action there were a few backers with huge cash flow streams who were action junkies, unaware and uncaring of where they stood in the win-loss column, willing to take 50% of the winnings and pay off 100% of the losses day after day, a statistically sure way to lose money. They were playing a role of big time gambler, and for all I know enjoying every minute of it, because it was their money to spend as they liked. They injected huge amounts of cash into the pool gambling scene, and kept it afloat. Take away a handful of those backers (or rich losers, same thing) and there never would have been a big pool action scene, just a few guys betting their own money and hoping to make expenses.
I watched them play a match for 1k I think and Spanky dogged many ball after he lost he was talking to a friend of mine and he was saying , I do everything better than he does playing anyone else yet I keep losing to him ,,
Scooter is definitely in his head


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blusteel

AzB Silver Member
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Isn't this the same guy who won the Louis Roberts award?

This is my speculative proforma for the $40K in 30 days fundraiser:
- $10K "libations"
- $10K "mental enhancements"
- $10K gas, lodging and buffets
- $10K losses
I think I'll save my $15 for popcorn.

160,000 quarters don't go as far as they used to.
 
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Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
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Yes, because it will be so easy to fake shots with live rail birds watching, not tied to the show......geez...

Yeah, but still.... show the ball rattle in the pocket... zoom out abit and actually let us see the miss. We still want to see him grimace in pain as he shits down his leg, but we also want to see the ball bobble and stop right there hanging in the pocket. We the viewers want to see it all.

Do you watch many golf tournaments when a guy is putting to win the Masters and they show his face as he misses the shots and we do not see the ball lip out of the pocket? No? Do you know why? Because it would be dumb to not show the actual shot and miss. We get the view of the face and exceptional grimace of pain in the replay as he blows the makeable putt. Golf gives it ALL to us, because the viewers want that, and they obviously know what the viewers want a hell of a lot more then freaking pool promoters and presenters.
 

Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
Silver Member
Isn't this the same guy who won the Louis Richards award?

This is my speculative proforma for the $40K in 30 days fundraiser:
- $10K "libations"
- $10K "mental enhancements"
- $10K gas, lodging and buffets
- $10K losses
I think I'll save my $15 for popcorn.

160,000 quarters don't go as far as they used to.

You forgot "bail money".

And it is Louis "Roberts". A legend of the game should be given enough respect to at least get his name right...
 

SidePocketProd

AzB Silver Member
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I think this is the best idea goin right now for pool. What's not to like, plus a city to city tour while they are in action. With the intent to get this in front of the American public, very cool.

I'm in, just trying to figure out what level im buying in at, the derby city package has peaked my interest ,,,,good luck :thumbup:

Thanks for the interest and support! It is going to be fun!
 
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