I am tired of hearing people moan, groan and make smart remarks about safeties
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Febreze said:
Hey ... I dont like it either.
9 ball should be won by making the 9 ball in a pocket ... no other way.
Call me old school or whatever but I think the three foul rule was and is the worst rule in 9 ball.
I like 9 ball the way it was before television bastardized the rules for faster play.
Who practices a spot shot anymore?
It just isnt part of the game now and that IMHO is a real shame.
9 ball played the way Fast Eddie Felton and Minnesota Fats played it is the REAL DEAL!
However, it is a current rule and now part of the game.
All the jump cue makers are very happy about it.
If I gamble I always request 'no three foul rule' right up front.
If the guy dont want to play that way then there is no game.
That is what your guy should have done instead of acting like a jerk after the fact. You won fare and square.
WilleeCue said:
Back in the day "before television bastardized the rules" we still played 3 foul. What is it you don't like about the rule? It's not an easy thing to do to even a half decent player.
Also Fast Eddie Felton is fictional and played 14.1 in a movie and I'm not sure Minnesota Fats played anything.
WilleeCue said:
are you serious? You don't think someone saying you play N***er pool is a raciest comment? And no I'm not black if I was I would do a lot worse if they said that to me.Also in your other post about kickers are loser you seem to be missing the point. He is kicking because he has been hooked by a safety not because he likes to kick at low percentage shots.
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i play in a tournament and a D player goes to 1 while we go to about 9. what am i gonna do, try to run out every time. these people cant kick worth a dime. i just three foul them all 9 games every time and im an a-hole for it supposedly. thems the rules though. i agree with you though.
WilleeCue said:
So you say to your opponent, "Let's play 9-ball, but not really 9-ball because I'm going to change some rules?"
worldison2 said:
haha, i know......
let's say it's hill-hill nine ball no three foul for 5 thousand. the guy shoots the one, hangs it, the cb scratches and 2 balls roll up in front of the hanging 1 ball so as there is absolutely no way to even hit it.
no 3 foul rule there will be a huge argument that i dont want to be a part of. 3 foul rule the game will be over in 5 minutes. you gotta play 3 foul rule.
worldison2 said:
Yeah ... sounds like a hustler move ... dont it.
The 9 ball rules were changed to include the three foul rule because of TV, not because it improved the game.
(thank you Robin Adair and Texas Express)
Watching two guys shoot safety after safety is not good TV.
That is why you dont see one pocket matches on TV.
There is nothing wrong with modifying the rules BEFORE the game.
Just like giving a spot or some weight.
If you dont think you can win by just out shooting the guy ... then dont play. Its a free country isnt it?
I would rather play one pocket, straight pool, or 8 ball.
But if a player insists on 9 ball then I insist on 'no three foul rule'.
It really is no big deal to someone that can actually run a few balls.
You kids need to try playing pool the old school way.
Playing it the way it was played BEFORE the rules were changed to suit television.
Pii said:
Oh ... that is what that word is.
I thought it was something like NOT
Sorry ... you are right.
That would be a raciest comment an very inappropriate conduct for a sportsman of the caliber that frequents pool halls.
They should put up a 'No Raciest Remarks" sign in all pool halls right next to the one that says 'No Gambling'.
That should fix it.
In my limited experience, safety play adds balance to the game. It is the one thing you can do to effect your opponents chances on the green.
I classify safeties 3 ways.
1. Failed: (the kind I play 50% of the time
) Right idea bad execution shots, and bad idea shots fall into this category.
2. Good: What I call the barbox safety. Dictates what the opponent can shoot at, and may or may not result in ball in hand. Results in comments like "man what a shitty leave" or "you haven't left me a clear shot all night". These shots often carry the risk of unintended consequences like breaking up one of my clusteers or forcing the opponent to shoot toward a hanging 8 ball (in 8 ball) or potential scratch shots. The opponent might complain but you aren't accused of playing "dirty pool".
3. Lock up. Usually results in ball in hand and the kind of *****ing the OP was talking about. In this case your opponent can't see a ball to shoot at and must kick, jump, or masse to even have a chance at a hit. These are the kind of safeties you play repeatedly when you know you are getting under your opponents skin. The kind of safety where you get ball in hand and play another lock up just to turn the screws...:grin-devilish:
I don't have any problem with the 3 foul rule as long as it's made clear up front whether it will be used or not.
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I classify safeties 3 ways.
1. Failed: (the kind I play 50% of the time
) Right idea bad execution shots, and bad idea shots fall into this category.2. Good: What I call the barbox safety. Dictates what the opponent can shoot at, and may or may not result in ball in hand. Results in comments like "man what a shitty leave" or "you haven't left me a clear shot all night". These shots often carry the risk of unintended consequences like breaking up one of my clusteers or forcing the opponent to shoot toward a hanging 8 ball (in 8 ball) or potential scratch shots. The opponent might complain but you aren't accused of playing "dirty pool".
3. Lock up. Usually results in ball in hand and the kind of *****ing the OP was talking about. In this case your opponent can't see a ball to shoot at and must kick, jump, or masse to even have a chance at a hit. These are the kind of safeties you play repeatedly when you know you are getting under your opponents skin. The kind of safety where you get ball in hand and play another lock up just to turn the screws...:grin-devilish:
I don't have any problem with the 3 foul rule as long as it's made clear up front whether it will be used or not.
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enzo said:
The guy that shot the one ball loses because he will three foul out first.
Now that is not the kind of game that I enjoy.
Is that the kind of pool you guys prefer?
Wouldn't a better solution be to learn to play good enough so that you dont hang balls?
Or perhaps use your brain to figure out a way to win even with giving your opponent the ball in hand.
Unless your are playing the ghost there is a possibility your opponent will not run the table.
Do you really want to depend on the rules to cover your lack of skills?
The ONLY way 9 ball (or 6 or 10) should be won is by sinking the money ball (the cheese) with a legal shot.