Playing BCAPL 8 Ball leagues last night. We are in 1st place by 1 round and need to go 2 weeks without a loss to secure 1st place.
We are playing a team that we have a history of bad blood. They don't like us, we don't like them....enough said.
One of my teammates is at the table and his opponent is running the table until he hooks himself. He has his last ball up near the head string in the middle and the CB is down toward the foot string with a few balls in the way. Only thing he can do is 1 or 2 rail kick at it. we are thinking this guy will be lucky to even hit it let alone make it anywhere. He walks around the table several times gets down on the shot, says "seven" and shoots. He never motioned toward or tapped or said what pocket, all he said was seven.
My teammate jumps up and says you didn't call that shot. This starts a 4 or 5 minute argument about what contitutes calling a shot. During the opponents explanation he frequently admitted to not calling a pocket and said he didn't have to because it was obvious. At this point I decide to add my 2 cents and I said that by definition, banks, kicks and combos are NOT obvious and the rulebook says special care must be taken and you need to let your opponent know what you are doing.
That's all it took. The other team started screaming that my talking to them was a foul. All I did was explain the rule to the opposing player.
One of their players yells out "Nobody watched the shot so call goes to the shooter. Just go ahead and shoot the 8 ball". Which is what he did.
At the end of the night when we were supposed to compare and sign each others score sheets, I explained that i was calling that game a loss for their team and lodging a protest. My grounds were that he admitted to not calling a pocket on a shot that was not obvious, furthermore his teammate gave him advice while not in an official time out (Shoot the 8) and he took that advice and lastly my teammate never said go ahead or shoot it or in any way conceded the argument.
In my mind they were saying we're going to do what we want and there's nothing you can do about it.
What would you have done??
PS.....Our LO is ultra weak. Why can't everybody just get along is the standard answer.
This is the same team that tricked us into a forfiet that cost us 1st place by misrepresenting who was the team CPT and then denying that we had asked to play it on a different date due to players out of town. Our LO is so weak they dont even have a make up policy. As long as they dont have to get involved they're happy to sit back and collect our cash.
I guess in the pool world cheating is a form of flattery. Since we have skills and it takes cheating to beat us I should get some satisfaction out of it......I guess.
We are playing a team that we have a history of bad blood. They don't like us, we don't like them....enough said.
One of my teammates is at the table and his opponent is running the table until he hooks himself. He has his last ball up near the head string in the middle and the CB is down toward the foot string with a few balls in the way. Only thing he can do is 1 or 2 rail kick at it. we are thinking this guy will be lucky to even hit it let alone make it anywhere. He walks around the table several times gets down on the shot, says "seven" and shoots. He never motioned toward or tapped or said what pocket, all he said was seven.
My teammate jumps up and says you didn't call that shot. This starts a 4 or 5 minute argument about what contitutes calling a shot. During the opponents explanation he frequently admitted to not calling a pocket and said he didn't have to because it was obvious. At this point I decide to add my 2 cents and I said that by definition, banks, kicks and combos are NOT obvious and the rulebook says special care must be taken and you need to let your opponent know what you are doing.
That's all it took. The other team started screaming that my talking to them was a foul. All I did was explain the rule to the opposing player.
One of their players yells out "Nobody watched the shot so call goes to the shooter. Just go ahead and shoot the 8 ball". Which is what he did.
At the end of the night when we were supposed to compare and sign each others score sheets, I explained that i was calling that game a loss for their team and lodging a protest. My grounds were that he admitted to not calling a pocket on a shot that was not obvious, furthermore his teammate gave him advice while not in an official time out (Shoot the 8) and he took that advice and lastly my teammate never said go ahead or shoot it or in any way conceded the argument.
In my mind they were saying we're going to do what we want and there's nothing you can do about it.
What would you have done??
PS.....Our LO is ultra weak. Why can't everybody just get along is the standard answer.
This is the same team that tricked us into a forfiet that cost us 1st place by misrepresenting who was the team CPT and then denying that we had asked to play it on a different date due to players out of town. Our LO is so weak they dont even have a make up policy. As long as they dont have to get involved they're happy to sit back and collect our cash.
I guess in the pool world cheating is a form of flattery. Since we have skills and it takes cheating to beat us I should get some satisfaction out of it......I guess.
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