I hate to say it, but...
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You are both correct, but you had to sift thru pages and pages of senseless bickering to find that information.
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There would be a lot less ppl with improved tables if it wasn't for the top calibre mechanics help and input here....glen,mark, jay and rookies in no particular order and everyone in between has/had made great contribution to this section to improve,enlighten or educate others of the pool table of today.
If it was not for the old schoolers there would be no new schoolers... The senior mechanics have been at it and around longer than before most of us could shoot a staple, those guys have tons of knowledge and probably forgotten more stuff about pool tables than most of us know about the trade but those ol' timers are still sharp as a tack and I am very greatful for their contribution to this section over the years. Hats off to you guyz!
This section may come to a stand still at points of time and I know myself and others don't frequent this section as often as we used to....
As far as RKC and his good ol' posts of his work and progress across the country in his switch back travels....I believe his account has a permeant/indefinite ban so we won't get the show and tell posts like we all enjoy so much...
See y'all around.
Rob.M
There would be a lot less ppl with improved tables if it wasn't for the top calibre mechanics help and input here....glen,mark, jay and rookies in no particular order and everyone in between has/had made great contribution to this section to improve,enlighten or educate others of the pool table of today.
If it was not for the old schoolers there would be no new schoolers... The senior mechanics have been at it and around longer than before most of us could shoot a staple, those guys have tons of knowledge and probably forgotten more stuff about pool tables than most of us know about the trade but those ol' timers are still sharp as a tack and I am very greatful for their contribution to this section over the years. Hats off to you guyz!
This section may come to a stand still at points of time and I know myself and others don't frequent this section as often as we used to....
As far as RKC and his good ol' posts of his work and progress across the country in his switch back travels....I believe his account has a permeant/indefinite ban so we won't get the show and tell posts like we all enjoy so much...
See y'all around.
Rob.M
perfectpocketz
Banned
I agree to some point that this forum has slowed....but there's not many questions that really need much discussion.
So much has been covered in the past....and a lot of questions can be looked up in past posts.
What's slowed down is all the argueing between mechanics....that's why this section looks slow.
How many times can someone post pics of working on a pool table.
I've been reading more than posting.....saves argueing with the ones that know it all....but really know nothing.
How many questions are left about a pool table....that haven't been answered on this forum.
The only thing that was keeping it going was guys knocking one another.
The guys answering most on here now.....are for the most part doing a good job....no need for guys like me to answer.
Mark Gregory
Well said Mark, while reading about mechanics fighting and knocking each other might be entertaining to some, it certainly not what this forum was established for.
Keep in mind, most of the mechanics on this forum are out working for a living 40-50 hours a week and don't have the time to engage in key board wars.
Glen being banned was the decision of the moderators, not the mechanics in this section. I don't see any questions being asked, going unanswered.
Jay
I am a retired woodworker with 50 years experience.
Glen was generous enough to supply me with all dimensions, angles, and techniques
required to convert my Diamond red label to blue label specs, free of charge.
Not many professionals would do that.
His instructions for leveling the slates, and covering, using the glue method were
very detailed.
I have played on 5 other 9 ft. Diamonds I could find in the middle Tennessee area pool halls,
and none played as true as mine does now.
If you are able to read this Glen, Thanks Again!
Glen was generous enough to supply me with all dimensions, angles, and techniques
required to convert my Diamond red label to blue label specs, free of charge.
Not many professionals would do that.
His instructions for leveling the slates, and covering, using the glue method were
very detailed.
I have played on 5 other 9 ft. Diamonds I could find in the middle Tennessee area pool halls,
and none played as true as mine does now.
If you are able to read this Glen, Thanks Again!
perfectpocketz
Banned
That's great.....but we as top mechanics on this forum have all done that.
I've told people over the phone how to do many jobs.
I've spent hours on the phone walking people through recovering their table....explained how to do their rails......all angles.....cuts.....and measurements.
We have all done this......but that for the most part goes unnoticed by most.
This forum was a tremendous help for so many people.......what really went wrong was the guys that started to do this work with the advice of 5 or 6 top mechanics......then started to post their work and knock the ones that gave them the advice in the first place......all along their work was not even par....but their ego was bigger than this forum.
Glen started more people against one another than anyone.....I can say that because I know that first hand.
Some of the guys on this site calling themselves mechanics is so far from the truth......but Glen was given them props for the work they were doing...... he and I argued about that over and over.
They weren't doing the kind of work....they were charging for.....but thought their work was right.
I'm not trying to knock anyone.....just trying to understand how guys come on this site......post some pics.....and think their top mechanics......sale restored tables by the dozens....when all along they really have no clue.
Will they get better.....absolutely they will in time.....we all did.....what gets me up set more than anything is when that offer work on rails.....telling people I'm high priced and they can do as good of job for way less......get the job and then I get the call only to hear how bad of a job they did....and how they knew they should have had me do the job and made a big mistake.
I didn't spend thousands of dollars on tools just to make more money.....I did it to do the best rail work.
These guys have a circular saws....table saw....and elec. hand planners....and think they can do great rail work.
I blame Glen for giving these guy false guidance....and cheap tooling.
I'm not trying to start another war on here......but that's why the forum went south.....guys don't know the answers with out Glens approvals.
Glen has tremendous knowledge about tables.....but no more than Jay knows...or I know......in fact Jay as well as myself have given Glen tons of ideas....just to have Glen post as his....did we say anything....NO
Between Jay and I....together we have about 70 years of experience in this field.
This forum should have gotten better since Glen was banded.....but it has gotten weaker.....cause all the voices that were loud and arrogant.....don't post cause they don't know the answers.....look back at how many were posting.....and find their posts now.
Sorry....we all know......I don't sugar coat anything.....just how I am .
Mark Gregory
Mark,
For the record, I was never much interested in the dick waving, and I concede that a lot of bandwidth here was wasted on pointless bickering....
That said, I feel that a lot of questions now go unanswered or are given a terse 'go check the search function' rather than getting a full discussion.
I understand that to you senior mechanics, a lot of these questions are repetitive and annoying, but I learned a lot from them.
For the record, I was never much interested in the dick waving, and I concede that a lot of bandwidth here was wasted on pointless bickering....
That said, I feel that a lot of questions now go unanswered or are given a terse 'go check the search function' rather than getting a full discussion.
I understand that to you senior mechanics, a lot of these questions are repetitive and annoying, but I learned a lot from them.
A voice of reason in a time of buttermilk minds. Well stated sir.