Yes. My "alert" button is called PINKLADY
I would want to know from Rhea if we have played, probably around the very late 90's, at C&C. Pending confirmation I will spill da beans.
Lou Figueroa
I miss playing pool for money
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Yes. My "alert" button is called PINKLADY
I would want to know from Rhea if we have played, probably around the very late 90's, at C&C. Pending confirmation I will spill da beans.
Lou Figueroa
if the match b/w Rhea & OMGWTF @ DEC while in town & live streamed free @ $3K, had come together - after Rhea's woofing - we wouldn't be having this conversation.
PL <---- Lou, Gail's new necklace had better be r-e-a-l nice....
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Don't you love how someone will put you on blast in a heart beat.
When I decided that my pride had gotten the better of me, and I realized that I opened my mouth in a fashion that I should have not... my email string (which was done outside of the forum) gets posted.
I tried to withdraw my crass remark with the most respect possible, but since I was metaphorically drug through the mud, I will address it publicly.
Yes... I was barking, I apologize for that.
My wife and I have two children under the age of two, and are doing our best to get our retirement accounts and financial stablility in a place where we feel more comfortable long term. Part of this was the agreement not to gamble anymore. I still play in tournaments with a fair degree of regularity, and have in no way lost my heart.
I have just decided that I have smarter things to do with my money than risk it.
Should I have made a statement about playing if I had no intention on player... no I shouldn't have, and again... I'm sorry for that.
But let's say hypothetically that I was going to play...
I drive an hour to the poolhall mentioned. We play a race to 7 for $25 as you initially offered, I win, and you quit because you are broke.
So I walk away even... as I drove an hour to get there (likely $8-10 in gas), then table time, then the beer or two I would have had while I was there...
seems like a pretty large waste of time.
I do wish you the best in your journey, and I admire what you consider to be heart... but I feel you might need to reassess what true heart is.
Winning is a high like no other, but losing money you cannot afford to lose is plain stupid.
I have a nice house, nice cars, my wife and I both have great jobs, and are saving every penny that we can get our hands on to save for our retirement and our childrens' future...
So does that make me the chump, or the person that can't afford a roof over their head begging for action online to fund their next meal.
Please in the future, if you contact someone outside the realms of AZ... keep the convo out of AZ... it was extremely bad taste, and the respect that I did have for you is now gone.
When I decided that my pride had gotten the better of me, and I realized that I opened my mouth in a fashion that I should have not... my email string (which was done outside of the forum) gets posted.
I tried to withdraw my crass remark with the most respect possible, but since I was metaphorically drug through the mud, I will address it publicly.
Yes... I was barking, I apologize for that.
My wife and I have two children under the age of two, and are doing our best to get our retirement accounts and financial stablility in a place where we feel more comfortable long term. Part of this was the agreement not to gamble anymore. I still play in tournaments with a fair degree of regularity, and have in no way lost my heart.
I have just decided that I have smarter things to do with my money than risk it.
Should I have made a statement about playing if I had no intention on player... no I shouldn't have, and again... I'm sorry for that.
But let's say hypothetically that I was going to play...
I drive an hour to the poolhall mentioned. We play a race to 7 for $25 as you initially offered, I win, and you quit because you are broke.
So I walk away even... as I drove an hour to get there (likely $8-10 in gas), then table time, then the beer or two I would have had while I was there...
seems like a pretty large waste of time.
I do wish you the best in your journey, and I admire what you consider to be heart... but I feel you might need to reassess what true heart is.
Winning is a high like no other, but losing money you cannot afford to lose is plain stupid.
I have a nice house, nice cars, my wife and I both have great jobs, and are saving every penny that we can get our hands on to save for our retirement and our childrens' future...
So does that make me the chump, or the person that can't afford a roof over their head begging for action online to fund their next meal.
Please in the future, if you contact someone outside the realms of AZ... keep the convo out of AZ... it was extremely bad taste, and the respect that I did have for you is now gone.
severe.
and deserved.
i can only imagine how Gene feels this reflects on him. Cliff Notes - since you are unaware - Gene & Rhea were coming to Charlotte mid-DEC. we have 2 houses; free stay, each. i was flying in Melinda from CA for the match. and staked her $3K. both parties had $0 expenses. i had $0 invested; (entertainment expense).
zero response from Rhea....
she can't post -
After the Abermarle tournament in the middle of November, Gene and I left to go to Wisconsin, I was in Eau Claire until Dec 10th, after that I went on my own to Tulsa Oklahoma.
I did not refuse to play Melinda and she can still get played. But that was not on Gene's agenda as he had a lot more important things to do.
thank you for responding after 6 months, when i offered you $3K & hype.
while i do understand that Gene's mother died in DEC, we also know that this was set prior & he could have dropped you off, en route. back when you had $3500+/_....
Melinda is off the table. let me restate that - my table - she's her own woman. and posts.
fair
So just to be clear. You made a choice to jump on a bandwagon and bark at her in front of everyone apparently without reading the thread. If you had you would know she is broke with no money. You challenge her in a game she can not win. then you back out privately. She was challenged by you in front of everyone and now it is wrong that she puts your emails out for everyone to see?
So just to be clear. You made a choice to jump on a bandwagon and bark at her in front of everyone apparently without reading the thread. If you had you would know she is broke with no money. You challenge her in a game she can not win. then you back out privately. She was challenged by you in front of everyone and now it is wrong that she puts your emails out for everyone to see?
Brendan, check your PMs.
conversely, i called Rhea out, with no response.
now twice.
Rhea is simply making herself a target by making this thread to begin with.
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agree
I agree completely. Doesn't mean the gambling offers aren't ridiculous. It is also funny she accepts a game she can't win and the big internet gambler backs out.
I agree completely. Doesn't mean the gambling offers aren't ridiculous. It is also funny she accepts a game she can't win and the big internet gambler backs out.
you are correct, I was wrong, and I admit that, I also apologized.
I got caught up in old habit and flew off at the mouth unjustifiably. However, I would have been somewhat less upset had she summarized what was said rather than copy and pasting into the thread.
So, Rhea: did we occasionally play in St. Louis?
Lou Figueroa
talk about playing
hard to get
Wow, and to think I as I am getting back into the pool scene I was worried that all the posts were going to be lame like: What is the best tip? Is a leather wrap better than linen? Or do you breathe in or out on the forward stroke? Or, can anyone identify my shaft? (OK, I am guilty on that one!)
This thread is crazy,, maybe you all have been here too long to get it ( and I know 0% of any "history")
But from the sidelines it looks like this: (My summary of the highlights)
I miss and want to play for $. (followed by a bunch of BS that most likely is not close to the truth)
Hey,, unless you are #1 in the world, I will kick your tail... and I will use my family "charity money" to gamble with.
Want to play sets for $25?
Nah,, that ain't worth the 1 hour drive.
Want to play for $50?
Nah, I don't want to upset my family by meeting up with a woman (after I publicly called you out)
Then, a public post comes out that the REAL reason is "I have a family and want to maintain financial stability for them." (what happened to the charity donations forgone to help this poor woman?)
Then the fact comes out that a promise was made to the wife not to gamble,,, kinda forgot that on the first post, eh?
But that isn't enough! Now he posts about the "hypothetical action!" Kids, I have been in pool halls for a while now, but this is the first time I have heard of "hypothetical aciton"..
So, a scenario is played out in the "hypothetical action" that clearly demonstrates this is a total waste of his time (but he has self proclaimed "heart") Hey, I got tons of heart in a "hypothetical" match with Efren,, and I beat him every time!
But that isn't all, he decides NOW is the time to lecture her about her need to reasses what real "heart" is... Are you kidding me? Seriously? Is this a joke?
And now he is pissed that she called him out in public after calling her out in public first... You can't make this up.
I don't know anyone involved in this thread, but if I had to financially back someone with a great job, a great wife, two kids, etc... or someone who is all over the internet competing in tournaments, totally committing to being a great player,,, it would be a NO BRAINER.... Very difficult to be a great pool player and a great Dad.
OK,, sorry to all for this contribution but I just can't believe pool has sunk to this, and this thread has jumped the shark...
Now carry on talking about which ball won't take your english because it is one gram heavier than the one you play with...................
This thread is crazy,, maybe you all have been here too long to get it ( and I know 0% of any "history")
But from the sidelines it looks like this: (My summary of the highlights)
I miss and want to play for $. (followed by a bunch of BS that most likely is not close to the truth)
Hey,, unless you are #1 in the world, I will kick your tail... and I will use my family "charity money" to gamble with.
Want to play sets for $25?
Nah,, that ain't worth the 1 hour drive.
Want to play for $50?
Nah, I don't want to upset my family by meeting up with a woman (after I publicly called you out)
Then, a public post comes out that the REAL reason is "I have a family and want to maintain financial stability for them." (what happened to the charity donations forgone to help this poor woman?)
Then the fact comes out that a promise was made to the wife not to gamble,,, kinda forgot that on the first post, eh?
But that isn't enough! Now he posts about the "hypothetical action!" Kids, I have been in pool halls for a while now, but this is the first time I have heard of "hypothetical aciton"..
So, a scenario is played out in the "hypothetical action" that clearly demonstrates this is a total waste of his time (but he has self proclaimed "heart") Hey, I got tons of heart in a "hypothetical" match with Efren,, and I beat him every time!
But that isn't all, he decides NOW is the time to lecture her about her need to reasses what real "heart" is... Are you kidding me? Seriously? Is this a joke?
And now he is pissed that she called him out in public after calling her out in public first... You can't make this up.
I don't know anyone involved in this thread, but if I had to financially back someone with a great job, a great wife, two kids, etc... or someone who is all over the internet competing in tournaments, totally committing to being a great player,,, it would be a NO BRAINER.... Very difficult to be a great pool player and a great Dad.
OK,, sorry to all for this contribution but I just can't believe pool has sunk to this, and this thread has jumped the shark...
Now carry on talking about which ball won't take your english because it is one gram heavier than the one you play with...................
Let me clear some of this up for you...
I miss and want to play for $. (followed by a bunch of BS that most likely is not close to the truth)
But have no cue, no money, no car, no place to sleep at night, my backer dumped me, and I hustle $20 games for my next meal
Hey,, unless you are #1 in the world, I will kick your tail...
I said unless you are a top rated player (legit top rated) dont expect to STEAMROLL, I never said I was favored to win... I actually stated I was likely the underdog
and I will use my family "charity money" to gamble with.
This was a very flawed statement by me... for many reasons. Let me explain. I figured hey, if I were to play and I lose, no biggy... as its only $50-$100, that isn't a big deal, and I could potentially help someone in need... well that was an incorrect thought, and here is why.Giving has to come from the heart. You have to give with no intent on personal gain. You have to genuinely do it for the betterment of the world and society.
If I were to lose money in a set, it wouldn't be charity, it would be money lost.
Also, I would not in good faith GIVE the money to Rhea, as it would be spent irresponsibly or likely lost to someone in a bad game, rather than funding a shower, a hot meal, and a good nights sleep.
Want to play sets for $25?
Nah,, that ain't worth the 1 hour drive.
meaning, if I drive an hour to play you, and happen to win, I pocket $25, you quit, I pay table time, I refill my gas tank, and I pay my tab for while I was there, and broke even
Want to play for $50?
Nah, I don't want to upset my family by meeting up with a woman (after I publicly called you out)
The fact that a "woman" sends me a random email to my private email address asking to meet up, yes that upset my family dynamic, regardless of the reason, sending me an email in private to ask to meet up with a "woman" for any reason, can look bad in any situation... particularly with someone with whom I have never spoken to or had correspondance outside of the AZ community.
Then, a public post comes out that the REAL reason is "I have a family and want to maintain financial stability for them." (what happened to the charity donations forgone to help this poor woman?)
I addressed in my response to her posting the email string, that I was being a complete ass... I apologized for that.
I respect my wife whole-heartedly, and thank her every day for bringing me back to my with God, and reminding me that a lot of the lifestyle that I used to live, was not only irresponsible, but at times I actually took advantage of people.
She mentioned to me that, no matter the outcome... if I were to play, I was contributing to the degredation of someones life. Someone with a gambling problem who doesn't have their stuff together.
I feel very bad for even mentioning a money game, as it goes against the promise that I made about not gambling. Again I apologize for this.
As far as your donation comment... read above about giving
Then the fact comes out that a promise was made to the wife not to gamble,,, kinda forgot that on the first post, eh?
I did. I apologized. I continue to apologize.
I have no issue with admitting my mistakes, and have done so publicly.
But that isn't enough! Now he posts about the "hypothetical action!" Kids, I have been in pool halls for a while now, but this is the first time I have heard of "hypothetical aciton"..
So, a scenario is played out in the "hypothetical action" that clearly demonstrates this is a total waste of his time (but he has self proclaimed "heart") Hey, I got tons of heart in a "hypothetical" match with Efren,, and I beat him every time!
My comment about having heart was not at all about winning or losing. Again, I already stated that, for the money, I am likely the underdog.
My comment about heart was, my lack of partication in money games has nothing to do with fear, or lack of heart... it has to do with a conscious decision that I made about being more responsible with my money, for the betterment of family and our lifestyle.
But that isn't all, he decides NOW is the time to lecture her about her need to reasses what real "heart" is... Are you kidding me? Seriously? Is this a joke?
No, this is not a joke.
Getting into bad games is dumb.
Asking for weight to get the nuts in a game you can't lose is even dumber.
It may put some short term money in your pocket, but you will lose your action long term... piss off people that you play, and eventually you are going to hustle the wrong person, and end up face down behind a pool hall, with your pockets EMPTY
Having heart is getting into ANY game, and playing your heart out. ASIDE from the money. The player that I know that has the MOST heart, never plays for a dime. But he plays ever rack he ever plays like it is hill-hill as the US Open.
And now he is pissed that she called him out in public after calling her out in public first... You can't make this up.
Copy and pasting personal correspondance of any kind without permission is VERY bad taste, and I wanted to make that known. But you don't like it... ask me if i care
I don't know anyone involved in this thread, but if I had to financially back someone with a great job, a great wife, two kids, etc... or someone who is all over the internet competing in tournaments, totally committing to being a great player,,, it would be a NO BRAINER.... Very difficult to be a great pool player and a great Dad.
If this is truly how you feel, I am sure that we could reach out the AZ community and set up a game... I won't play on money that affects my family, but if someone wants to back me (or let me rephrase... I don't want a cut. I will play you keep any winnings) I would be happy to display my "lackluster fatherly pool skills"
I miss and want to play for $. (followed by a bunch of BS that most likely is not close to the truth)
But have no cue, no money, no car, no place to sleep at night, my backer dumped me, and I hustle $20 games for my next meal
Hey,, unless you are #1 in the world, I will kick your tail...
I said unless you are a top rated player (legit top rated) dont expect to STEAMROLL, I never said I was favored to win... I actually stated I was likely the underdog
and I will use my family "charity money" to gamble with.
This was a very flawed statement by me... for many reasons. Let me explain. I figured hey, if I were to play and I lose, no biggy... as its only $50-$100, that isn't a big deal, and I could potentially help someone in need... well that was an incorrect thought, and here is why.Giving has to come from the heart. You have to give with no intent on personal gain. You have to genuinely do it for the betterment of the world and society.
If I were to lose money in a set, it wouldn't be charity, it would be money lost.
Also, I would not in good faith GIVE the money to Rhea, as it would be spent irresponsibly or likely lost to someone in a bad game, rather than funding a shower, a hot meal, and a good nights sleep.
Want to play sets for $25?
Nah,, that ain't worth the 1 hour drive.
meaning, if I drive an hour to play you, and happen to win, I pocket $25, you quit, I pay table time, I refill my gas tank, and I pay my tab for while I was there, and broke even
Want to play for $50?
Nah, I don't want to upset my family by meeting up with a woman (after I publicly called you out)
The fact that a "woman" sends me a random email to my private email address asking to meet up, yes that upset my family dynamic, regardless of the reason, sending me an email in private to ask to meet up with a "woman" for any reason, can look bad in any situation... particularly with someone with whom I have never spoken to or had correspondance outside of the AZ community.
Then, a public post comes out that the REAL reason is "I have a family and want to maintain financial stability for them." (what happened to the charity donations forgone to help this poor woman?)
I addressed in my response to her posting the email string, that I was being a complete ass... I apologized for that.
I respect my wife whole-heartedly, and thank her every day for bringing me back to my with God, and reminding me that a lot of the lifestyle that I used to live, was not only irresponsible, but at times I actually took advantage of people.
She mentioned to me that, no matter the outcome... if I were to play, I was contributing to the degredation of someones life. Someone with a gambling problem who doesn't have their stuff together.
I feel very bad for even mentioning a money game, as it goes against the promise that I made about not gambling. Again I apologize for this.
As far as your donation comment... read above about giving
Then the fact comes out that a promise was made to the wife not to gamble,,, kinda forgot that on the first post, eh?
I did. I apologized. I continue to apologize.
I have no issue with admitting my mistakes, and have done so publicly.
But that isn't enough! Now he posts about the "hypothetical action!" Kids, I have been in pool halls for a while now, but this is the first time I have heard of "hypothetical aciton"..
So, a scenario is played out in the "hypothetical action" that clearly demonstrates this is a total waste of his time (but he has self proclaimed "heart") Hey, I got tons of heart in a "hypothetical" match with Efren,, and I beat him every time!
My comment about having heart was not at all about winning or losing. Again, I already stated that, for the money, I am likely the underdog.
My comment about heart was, my lack of partication in money games has nothing to do with fear, or lack of heart... it has to do with a conscious decision that I made about being more responsible with my money, for the betterment of family and our lifestyle.
But that isn't all, he decides NOW is the time to lecture her about her need to reasses what real "heart" is... Are you kidding me? Seriously? Is this a joke?
No, this is not a joke.
Getting into bad games is dumb.
Asking for weight to get the nuts in a game you can't lose is even dumber.
It may put some short term money in your pocket, but you will lose your action long term... piss off people that you play, and eventually you are going to hustle the wrong person, and end up face down behind a pool hall, with your pockets EMPTY
Having heart is getting into ANY game, and playing your heart out. ASIDE from the money. The player that I know that has the MOST heart, never plays for a dime. But he plays ever rack he ever plays like it is hill-hill as the US Open.
And now he is pissed that she called him out in public after calling her out in public first... You can't make this up.
Copy and pasting personal correspondance of any kind without permission is VERY bad taste, and I wanted to make that known. But you don't like it... ask me if i care
I don't know anyone involved in this thread, but if I had to financially back someone with a great job, a great wife, two kids, etc... or someone who is all over the internet competing in tournaments, totally committing to being a great player,,, it would be a NO BRAINER.... Very difficult to be a great pool player and a great Dad.
If this is truly how you feel, I am sure that we could reach out the AZ community and set up a game... I won't play on money that affects my family, but if someone wants to back me (or let me rephrase... I don't want a cut. I will play you keep any winnings) I would be happy to display my "lackluster fatherly pool skills"
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I don't remember you by name if we played before I would have to see your face to remember.
How do you not understand...
I feel disrespected, not about pool but personally.
Talk all the smack you want about my game, but when it gets personal, feelings get hurt.
Mine were... and yet AGAIN. If I hurt anyone else's feelings... I AM SORRY
I feel disrespected, not about pool but personally.
Talk all the smack you want about my game, but when it gets personal, feelings get hurt.
Mine were... and yet AGAIN. If I hurt anyone else's feelings... I AM SORRY
