I need advice.......

Myk

dorkfish
Silver Member
I have been very inconsistent lately, and I have found the problem.

The rub is, I can't seem to figure out how to beat this problem.

I can't maintain my focus. Sometimes I can focus for 2 or 3 games, but not an entire match, and sometimes I lose focus 2 or 3 times in a single rack.

Good example, I am an "A" player in a local handicapped tourney. I played tonight, and in my first match, I played an "AA" player. The first rack, he was playing badly and let me to the table 4 times with open shots, and I couldn't focus well enough to get out. This seemed to give him confidence, and he started shooting better. The wind up was, a 4 to 0 loss.

My next (one loss) match was against a "C" player, whom I had to beat 3games before he won 1 game, and if he wasn't an inexperienced player, he'd have beaten me as well. I gave him WAY too many shots at me, but I was lucky and he didn't get out.

My final match was an even game, race to 3. First rack, my opponent broke dry, and I proceeded to run down to the 8, but lost concentration on the last 2 balls and wound up hooked on the 8 and kicking. The shots that got me out of line were easy, and I easily should have run out.

In last nights 9 ball tourney, I had similar problems that saw me leaving my opponent an 8 and 9, then an 8 and 9 with ball in hand, then just the 9 twice. Pretty hard to win a race to 5 that way, and all the misses were simple shots.

How can I get my focus and concentration back?
 
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this isn't advice,but you're not alone.... i'm in the same boat as you buddy, i've always been a fast player, and if i loose focus for a second i'll make a mistake. it seems like my brain is ready to shoot before my body is settled on the shot. tried practicing to slow my tempo down, but when i apply it to matches, it doesn't seem to last the whole set. maybe only three or four games...then it's back to the same old me. it sure has been frustrating, and i'm getting tired of losing to guys i should be able to beat. if things don't get better this year i'll probably just quit, i don't know how much more i can take:mad:
 
take hold of your life.....

grab it by the horns....

know that only you control your destiny.....

stop watching tv.....

stop wandering around mindlessly....

sit by yourself in a lonely place where no one can get to you, and close your eyes....

see the daily events in that take place in your life and actually recognize them....

stay in that room and find out who you are....

you can't focus because in todays world there is so much noise you can't ever hear the music nor the notes that make it, your constantly being pulled every which way...and humans can only focus on one thing at a time....

know that there is no such thing as multi-tasking....

stop worrying about the other guy, and just worry about yourself

stop giving yourself excuses for missing a shot, not getting a good grade, not getting the girl you want, not having a good job

Be so positive it that it seeps out your entire being

act as if you alone control everything around you, as if you have the key to every door, act as if failure did not exist...and success lies only within you

people have too many "minds" they spread it thin when just one focused mind on one tangible thing is enough to get anyone there.

act as if you really and truly care about what your doing not only on the table but in every other aspect of your life.

act as if that one moment is your stepping stone to something bigger and give it every ounce you can muster and then give it some more.

focus only comes from a want, not a need.....remember that....




If you can find meaning in what it takes to play great pool, then perhaps you can find meaning in another absurd pastime.....LIFE

act as if, and know thy self
Grey Ghost
 
There are any number of reasons as to why this problem comes about.

Are you perhaps burnt out? Then maybe a break is in order.

Sometimes when problems in other areas of life are weighing on me I can't focus on what I am doing, I may make all my shots but tend to play poor positional shots.

Are you a fast player? Maybe it's worth slowing down a little bit, at least at the beginning of the rack or at crucial moments. An example of a player who has benefitted from this is Ronnie O'Sullivan. He still plays quick, but is considered when things aren't obvious.

What's your preshot routine like? Maybe a tune up is order.
 
What are you trying to focus on? Ary you trying to maintain intense focus throughout the entire match?

The real key to proper focusing is knowing not only how to focus, but when to focus.

Consistent routines, both during and between shots, can help.

Steve
 
I have more questions than answers. What are you thinking when down on the shot? Do you have a preshot routine? What are you thinking before you get down on the shot?

For me, thoughts and strategies...how hard to hit the ball, english, ball path, shape on the next ball, and so on must be determined before I get down on the table. Once on the shot, I have determined all the things that must be done to successfully make the ball and pull shape. Once down on the shot, 8-10 seconds of concentration with the focus of nothing but making the ball (all else as stated above has already been decided).

Another issues I thought was mind related, but wasn't, was my fundamentals. My play was solid MOST of the time, but there were intervals of incosistency. I decided to attend a pool school and found my grip was too tight, bridge too long, back arm in the wrong position when addressing the ball, and no solid preshot routine.

I am currently working on making the changes to all the flaws stated above, progress is not instant, but I can see definite progress. There is no doubt fixing these funametal flaws in my set up and stroke are going to allow me to progress much futher, and be much more consistent in the long run. Hope this helps you as I have been where you are before.
 
I have more questions than answers. What are you thinking when down on the shot? Do you have a preshot routine? What are you thinking before you get down on the shot?

For me, thoughts and strategies...how hard to hit the ball, english, ball path, shape on the next ball, and so on must be determined before I get down on the table. Once on the shot, I have determined all the things that must be done to successfully make the ball and pull shape. Once down on the shot, 8-10 seconds of concentration with the focus of nothing but making the ball (all else as stated above has already been decided).

Another issues I thought was mind related, but wasn't, was my fundamentals. My play was solid MOST of the time, but there were intervals of incosistency. I decided to attend a pool school and found my grip was too tight, bridge too long, back arm in the wrong position when addressing the ball, and no solid preshot routine.

I am currently working on making the changes to all the flaws stated above, progress is not instant, but I can see definite progress. There is no doubt fixing these funametal flaws in my set up and stroke are going to allow me to progress much futher, and be much more consistent in the long run. Hope this helps you as I have been where you are before.

I would only add that after you have made all of your decisions, take a couple of seconds to visualize the entire shot before you get down on it. Having a vivid mental image of what you want to happen will allow your muscles to more effectively perform the shot as you plan.

Steve
 
My simple reply:

Try wearing ear plugs.

It helps me sometimes. I may get weird looks (but I'm used to that by now) and it really helps you reject a lot of (literal) noise and therefore helps you focus on the visual feedback.

Also, keep your eyes on the table when waiting (not necessarily on the shot your opponent is attempting, but on the table). All too often I find myself looking around the room and that is no good either. A short skirt breaks my concentration quickly...:rolleyes: Sometimes I will be re-evaluating the shot order even though the cue ball is rolling all over as the opponent shoots. Good brain exercise I think.

I have heard of making a mark on your bridge hand with a pen and always focusing on that mark once you get set on the table. It supposedly works like a 'reset' button and causes your mind to clear and always start the shot from a common visual starting point, like a common mechanical starting point (the set-up). Note: I have not tried this myself, but may sometime and see what happens.

It takes a conscious effort, but these two items (ear plugs and focusing on the table) do help I think. Not sure about the hand mark....
 
What are you trying to focus on? Ary you trying to maintain intense focus throughout the entire match?

The real key to proper focusing is knowing not only how to focus, but when to focus.

Consistent routines, both during and between shots, can help.

Steve

I am not trying to over-focus, just trying to keep my mind from wandering as I go through my preshot routine and while actually shooting.

I think I may be giving my preshot too little time to be finished before I bend down to shoot. Maybe I'm just underthinking everything.

I want to try the process of just setting up a whole lot of easy shots and then go through a proper shooting routine repeatedly and see if I can retrain myself to do it right.
 
A thing that i try to teach/tell each guy with *almost* same problems like yours:

Just really enjoy to be able to play your game! You re alone with your friend at the table....and your only friend on the table is the Cueball! Noone disturbs you (as long as noone steals your cue :p ). Enjoy your hobby. This helped many people. Enjoying often will bring much confidence. I always try to be not a *hobby psycho-doctor* :-) to much psycho-tips could give many players just more excuses (not to all- but especially to *new* players). If u tell em about mistakes/failures -let me say 30 of them- they will have 30 excuses more next time....


lg
Ingo
 
sometimes it's as simple as the grip on your cue. i loosened my grip and lenghtened my bridge and things are going much better. figuring out the problem has multiple benefits. first, you don't worry about missing and second you can then concentrate on position. it's a win win because when your position is right your shot goes. if you struggle and tighten up then you will have to play on mental power alone. this wears you out and makes winning nearly impossble. play fast and loose and pay strict attention to position and then you will have the stamina to go to the end. play tight and worried and your mind will go numb. shooting pool is like throwing a baseball. it's more of a feel than anything else.
 
Sausage. I agree completely that a tight grip can create significant problems with the stroke. But I have to ask about using a longer bridge. Most of my students try to shoot with a bridge length of 10 to 12 inches or more. When we shorten that up to around 8 inches, give or take, they almost always find their accuracy increases.

How do you think lengthening your bridge helped you?

Steve
 
sausage...or a football, or shooting a basketball, swinging a tennis racquet, a golf club or a hockey stick. It's definitely about "feel", but that feel has to be purposefully developed, to be able to be used subconsciously in the shooting process. A personal shooting template and your own sense of timing go a long way towards developing this "feel".

Scott Lee

shooting pool is like throwing a baseball. it's more of a feel than anything else.
 
sausage...or a football, or shooting a basketball, swinging a tennis racquet, a golf club or a hockey stick. It's definitely about "feel", but that feel has to be purposefully developed, to be able to be used subconsciously in the shooting process. A personal shooting template and your own sense of timing go a long way towards developing this "feel".

Scott Lee

This is one of the best statements I have read on AZ. .
 
sometimes it's as simple as the grip on your cue. i loosened my grip and lenghtened my bridge and things are going much better. figuring out the problem has multiple benefits. first, you don't worry about missing and second you can then concentrate on position. it's a win win because when your position is right your shot goes. if you struggle and tighten up then you will have to play on mental power alone. this wears you out and makes winning nearly impossble. play fast and loose and pay strict attention to position and then you will have the stamina to go to the end. play tight and worried and your mind will go numb. shooting pool is like throwing a baseball. it's more of a feel than anything else.

Lengthened your bridge for WHAT to WHAT?.....SPF=randyg
 
Sausage. I agree completely that a tight grip can create significant problems with the stroke. But I have to ask about using a longer bridge. Most of my students try to shoot with a bridge length of 10 to 12 inches or more. When we shorten that up to around 8 inches, give or take, they almost always find their accuracy increases.

How do you think lengthening your bridge helped you?

Steve

Steve:

i found that the accuracy of the hit on my cue is the same regardless of the length of my bridge. i also noticed that most pros use a long bridge. also and most importantly; when i use a long bridge and loose grip, i can see the shot better and i use less force to achieve the same results, especially when drawing the cue.
 
i just measured it and it's around 13" or 14" . but it varies depending on the shot. sometimes it's impossible to use a "long" bridge. oh, and one more really important thing that helps me out of s slump, is to concentrate on a rock-solid stance. don't move anything but your arm. if you are at a loss as to what you are doing wrong, videotape yourself.
 
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randy: did you ever play at clicks on Alpha in north dallas, circa 1993? i used to play there often with mcchesney and company.
 
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