I need to unload
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jazzn4444 said:
Nice suit.
Westjr, you've got a good reason to be upset, I'd say. You comments made to the manager were a little rough, but being a human being, late at night, both of you were not in your best mode, maybe?
And, you have stated the best solution for you and the others: talk to the owner, discuss the problem and if not resolved, don't go there anymore.
And, Teacherman's comments had better be considered, too, as he rightly points out that some customers just need to be "fired." I'm not saying you need to be (I don't believe we know each other), just that some customers aren't worth the trouble or profits.
I've recently mentioned on another thread about my current situation of having the opportunity to sell something to a young woman, who about 15 years ago, burglarized my house. I decided while reading this thread that she wasn't worth the risk and have quit prospecting her. Let someone else have her...I have plenty of good customers who always abide by the terms of our agreements. This is a good thing and one which I wish to reward.
Your problem is the same as the "petty bullshit" problem in the Basavich article thread: It is about making a contract with someone else and living up to the terms of it. It seems the manager failed in this regard, assuming it was not yet closing time.
Now, the bet made is a contract, too, between two people. Perhaps the terms of that could be completed elsewhere at a new time? This would have to be decided between the two parties, not here on the board. This would eliminate the $400 loss, wouldn't it?
And Teacherman, your message is clear, refreshing, objective, and stands on its own. However (you saw that coming didn't you?
), the source of knowledge is a good thing to integrate, as is the tone of the message. All play a part in the successful transference of facts to other, imho.
Jeff Livingston
And, you have stated the best solution for you and the others: talk to the owner, discuss the problem and if not resolved, don't go there anymore.
And, Teacherman's comments had better be considered, too, as he rightly points out that some customers just need to be "fired." I'm not saying you need to be (I don't believe we know each other), just that some customers aren't worth the trouble or profits.
I've recently mentioned on another thread about my current situation of having the opportunity to sell something to a young woman, who about 15 years ago, burglarized my house. I decided while reading this thread that she wasn't worth the risk and have quit prospecting her. Let someone else have her...I have plenty of good customers who always abide by the terms of our agreements. This is a good thing and one which I wish to reward.
Your problem is the same as the "petty bullshit" problem in the Basavich article thread: It is about making a contract with someone else and living up to the terms of it. It seems the manager failed in this regard, assuming it was not yet closing time.
Now, the bet made is a contract, too, between two people. Perhaps the terms of that could be completed elsewhere at a new time? This would have to be decided between the two parties, not here on the board. This would eliminate the $400 loss, wouldn't it?
And Teacherman, your message is clear, refreshing, objective, and stands on its own. However (you saw that coming didn't you?
), the source of knowledge is a good thing to integrate, as is the tone of the message. All play a part in the successful transference of facts to other, imho.Jeff Livingston
Ahhhh.....blessed are the peacemakers.
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OK Christy tell them the truth. Do I own a pool room or not?
Jimmy M. said:I had an entire response to this typed out. I just realized that I don't care enough to actually submit it. Have a nice day.
It's OK Jimmy! Look yourself in the mirror and say.......I'm going to send the message.......because I like myself.
Mr. Wilson said:
since some of you are so curious, no,,we are not the same,,of like mind ?,,very possible,,have lived enough years on this planet to see and recognize all types (immediately),,, have dealt with almost all nationalities while teaching at the university level,,,have had exchange students at the high school level,,,ALL people have their own prejudices,,,ALL people will embellish the truth to save 'face',,,there's a saying in the political circles that iy takes 20 years for the truth to be told,,,I will not be alive in 20 years, so,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,take life with a grain of salt,,,look for the "con" on convince and the "sin" in sincere,,,be suspicious of those who "never" lie and look in the mirror before accusing someone of something you probably have had no prior dealing with..........'nuff said
JAM said:
JAM,
This guy sounds too nice for his own good! He's going to kill himself bending over backwards!
As for the bull/bitch, I think you should say something to whoever you know so that she gets what she deserves. She'll keep being rude until she learns that it is unacceptable. BTW, sounds like you handled her very well - assertive behavior usually prevails.
Rickw said:
If there was EVER a businessman who put 100 percent of his efforts into the business, it is this guy. Because of it, THIS is the pool room where everybody in my area likes to go. It's a pleasant environment. He's got the respect of not only the players, but every single person who comes into his establishment.
Rickw said:
I may not have handled her so well 20 years ago, but after you hit 50, you learn not to sweat the small stuff.
I figure the pitbull bitch, sooner or later, will place the noose around her own neck, without my help. I do not like this pool room because of the atmosphere, but I do go there from time to time for weekly tournaments. Since I personally have been on both sides of the counter, I understand her desire to not have blatant and open gambling and respect her wishes. This manager seems to always be on tilt, poor woman.
The way I see it, it doesn't cost a thing to be nice, and I try to treat people the way they treat me.
JAM
JAM said:
That's exactly how I feel and how I treat pool players.
What a hypocrite
Does that mean we can start insulting you like you have to the posters. Stating things like alzheimers, retard, or what you said that really shows your true character, "you profile". That makes you either a rascist, a bigot, prejudice or all three.
And if you really pay out that kind of money in a pool room, you are in the wrong business. Your profit would not be worth the headache. You state you have been in business for 15 years going on 16 but self employed since 92. That adds up to 13. You obviously did not teach math. I think owning two pool rooms for 15 years would be considered self employed. That is why some on this forum do not believe you.
I hope I don't forget what I said now. Damn, I already did.
Teacherman said:
Does that mean we can start insulting you like you have to the posters. Stating things like alzheimers, retard, or what you said that really shows your true character, "you profile". That makes you either a rascist, a bigot, prejudice or all three.
And if you really pay out that kind of money in a pool room, you are in the wrong business. Your profit would not be worth the headache. You state you have been in business for 15 years going on 16 but self employed since 92. That adds up to 13. You obviously did not teach math. I think owning two pool rooms for 15 years would be considered self employed. That is why some on this forum do not believe you.
I hope I don't forget what I said now. Damn, I already did.
nfty9er said:
Maybe, the first 2 years in business Teacherman continued to hold his original job until the business was viable enough for him to take a full salary from the pool room. I believe him. What I can't believe is that all these posters are trying to act like Nancy Drew & get to the bottom of the mistery of who someone is?? I think I could actually make some money off this. Send me $50 by Paypal and I will give anyone that does so the answer. If I get just 20 people to respond (nfty9er I can do math) than I will in turn give the $1000 to Teacherman & he will hold a $1000 added, no entry fee, winner take all 9 ball tournament for all you pool players. What better way to get back at him for all the things he says that you don't like than to have him surrounded for a day by pool players that he feels are a waste of his business' time. I will call it the 'Teacherman Revenge 9 Ball Tourney', tentative date May 7th, location....oopps almost slipped. Location to be given once $1000 is collected. Who is first to buck up $50?
Fools
Teacherman your an idiot!
Teacherman said:
Teacherman your an idiot!
I like that
Then he would be "self employed" and employed. He can clear that up.
I would go for it but only if his pool room is somewhere I would enjoy going to cause depending on where that is the travel expenses may not be worth it.
And I would guess that would be the case. Not!
watchez said:
Then he would be "self employed" and employed. He can clear that up.
I would go for it but only if his pool room is somewhere I would enjoy going to cause depending on where that is the travel expenses may not be worth it.
And I would guess that would be the case. Not!
nfty9er said:
I wouldn't consider myself employed unless I was receiving compensation $$$ for my efforts. Until then, consider it charity.
Anyways, nfty send me a PM & I will give you my Paypal ID and we can get the ball rolling on this tournament. By the way YOUR PROFILE doesn't state where you live so I cannot answer your question if you are close enough to make it, as you state, worth it. But this also confuses me, do you only play pool for $$$ or for the love of the game & entertainment. Then money should be no object to you on how much expenses you incur. Besides you are self employed & can surely afford it.