I purchased a bulletproof recoil tip (red medium) tip and...

Cshot said:
I put the blue soft on my back up. Didnt like it at all, but after 1000 hits, really rough guess lol wad a a lot of hits, i trimmed a small amount of mushroom, picked the crap out of the top and omg felt so good. So I put one on my main player and same thing. Couldnt get the juice on my shots, felt like a plastic fisher price tip compared to the worked in tip on my back up. Once it worked in on my go to player. It hits bettet than any leather tip ive tried. If its consistant and lasts like they say these are tymhe tip of the future. Ive tried quiteca few keather tips over thecladt couple years, always loved the grip and juice i get of the softest tips i could find. Played with kanuii ss for years, then cue soul ss i found just as good but at half life left they seemed to die so had tobswitch them early. The ultraskin soft i liked better for way less $$ too. Wore one out in a couple months lol. Kamakazee ss is really nice too. My fav leather tip ended up being the TAOM fusion. Also found i like them way better brand new so id change it with lots layers still there prob just half way down. In found these Bulletproof tips are the unicorn tip ive been looking for in a leather tip. Just a bit of a pain to deal with how long it takes to work it in. But once its worked in its well worth it. When it mushrooms is when I noticed it start to come around. Ive only tried the soft, im guessing it prob takes longer to work in them mediums. Either way all my cues are getting these bad ass tips. If I put one on my fiancees cue, il prob break it in for her because it will take her a lot longer to work in, and its really quite different before and after its worked in.
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Our new re-formulated soft will not mushroom or require any type of "break-in" period. Our Medium and Hard will perform better than the soft and will transfer more energy to the cueball.
 
Cshot said:
I put the blue soft on my back up. Didnt like it at all, but after 1000 hits, really rough guess lol wad a a lot of hits, i trimmed a small amount of mushroom, picked the crap out of the top and omg felt so good. So I put one on my main player and same thing. Couldnt get the juice on my shots, felt like a plastic fisher price tip compared to the worked in tip on my back up. Once it worked in on my go to player. It hits bettet than any leather tip ive tried. If its consistant and lasts like they say these are tymhe tip of the future. Ive tried quiteca few keather tips over thecladt couple years, always loved the grip and juice i get of the softest tips i could find. Played with kanuii ss for years, then cue soul ss i found just as good but at half life left they seemed to die so had tobswitch them early. The ultraskin soft i liked better for way less $$ too. Wore one out in a couple months lol. Kamakazee ss is really nice too. My fav leather tip ended up being the TAOM fusion. Also found i like them way better brand new so id change it with lots layers still there prob just half way down. In found these Bulletproof tips are the unicorn tip ive been looking for in a leather tip. Just a bit of a pain to deal with how long it takes to work it in. But once its worked in its well worth it. When it mushrooms is when I noticed it start to come around. Ive only tried the soft, im guessing it prob takes longer to work in them mediums. Either way all my cues are getting these bad ass tips. If I put one on my fiancees cue, il prob break it in for her because it will take her a lot longer to work in, and its really quite different before and after its worked in.
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Everyone knows I'm a die hard single layer leather tip guy.
These Bulletproof have made me step back and take inventory. I have 3 green now on my dailys. One CF, one Kielwood and one LD custom maple. After scuffing the tips many many times no evidence of shrinkage has occured. They appear the same size they were when installed. I like a roughed up surface for many shots, so I work these tips up. Only thing I've noticed is one of the hard tips appears to be harder than the others.
It will be on that shaft when my grandkids are playing. Hard to say no to such a fine product.
If nothing else, it's saving me hassle of installations and coin for more tips. Since I do mine by hand, that's a biggie!! Did I mention I like how they play??😂
 
I have two of these tips and if it dosn’t sound stupid, but they need to break in. I put the green tip on based on what others were saying. I did not like how it played for a few weeks and debated cutting it off, but I waited and suddenly it came to life and behaves like others have said. The right chalk also help with a tip that hard.
 
ak1975 said:
I have two of these tips and if it dosn’t sound stupid, but they need to break in. I put the green tip on based on what others were saying. I did not like how it played for a few weeks and debated cutting it off, but I waited and suddenly it came to life and behaves like others have said. The right chalk also help with a tip that hard.
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Absolutely. You have to like hard tips to begin with and these are harder than most. I'd shoot w a rock if it would hold chalk, and these are the next best thing. Power transfer
and spin
unrivalled imo.
Consistent hit with very minimal maintenance.
I say that bcuz I like to work up the surface of my tips often. Just a personal preference.
Btw... I use masters chalk. I rarely miscue, but when I do, it isn't the tips' fault nor the chalk.
 
Mensabum said:
I'd shoot w a rock if it would hold chalk
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Me too, the harder the better!

I recently milkdudded a lepro and pressed it as hard as I could with a flat/undomed press and I love it. It's probably the hardest tip I've found and it hits really sweet. It holds V10 great, but I think V10 sticks better anyway. The problem is they are a pain to dud as you have to sand all the brown protective coating off to allow them to soak up the milk.
 
boogieman said:
Me too, the harder the better!

I recently milkdudded a lepro and pressed it as hard as I could with a flat/undomed press and I love it. It's probably the hardest tip I've found and it hits really sweet. It holds V10 great, but I think V10 sticks better anyway. The problem is they are a pain to dud as you have to sand all the brown protective coating off to allow them to soak up the milk.
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Crap!!! Knew I was forgetting something when they came out the same size as I put em in.😂
Even tho I'm mostly hitting bulletproof now, there's some things I'll never stop doing. Tips are on that list. Members here have sent me some crazy tips over the years and I hope I live long enuf to install and play with every single one of them!! Hate to think my grandson would find a bowl of milk and brown things in the fridge and eat them thinking they were Cocoa Puffs!!😂
 
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I have done my own tips for a very long time. I have tips in my kit that are 40+ years old and still use them. I am glad I bought them all those years ago. Yes, I have more modern layered tips as well. But the old ones on old growth shafts with ivory ferrules is just a special experience.

Many years ago I dropped off two original 1970's Joss shafts at a pool and billiards shop in Pittsburgh for tips. What they did to one of the ferrules was criminal, and they had a lathe. They were a large, historic, well known billiards shop. And they wouldn't stand by their work and replace the ferrule. They actually had the nerve to offer to take the cue as a partial trade on a new cue. I never went back.

 
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Bulletproof Billiards said:
Our new re-formulated soft will not mushroom or require any type of "break-in" period. Our Medium and Hard will perform better than the soft and will transfer more energy to the cueball.
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Gonna send me one and il compare ;). I will take the one that takes time to break in if i likevit better than the one that doesn't take time. I dont like the idea of changing the formula of the best tip ive ever hit with lol. Also have another shaft i was considering trying a medium on another shaft. More energy trasfer. Some people like medium and hard tips because of the more energy trasfter. I think i liked soft tips because i can hit soft touchy shots with a ton of juice softer because of the less energy transfer. To me the break in time is well worth it because of how much i like it after how much its worked in. In my head im thinking if it doesnt mushroom, its prob not going to be as soft. But saying that, is the break in time, just working that soft tip in to become a medium tip?
 
edcoopdeville said:
So about a month ago I purchased a bulletproof recoil (red medium) tip, but I've been hesitant to put it on my playing cue, because I wanted to make sure it wasn't just a gimmick, and that people are actually using them, and it's getting reviews (good or bad)?

As you can see I haven't opened it yet.
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The YouTube videos I've seen are all (for the most part) positive, which is fine, but I also use this website primarily, because I view the information that is posted and shared here, by the members, as valid (and for the most part) unbiased and creditable. So what's the feedback and reviews on this tip, and if there are already threads reviewing it, can you direct me to them?
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Why didnt you do this before you bought ??
 
The soft tip I got is interesting but going back to leather. I had the tip on my travel setup and was using it for about 4 weeks. The hit feel varied based on the speed, if you hit it harder, it seemed to absorb the hit feel, almost causing a delay in feed-back, sort of like a badly dubbed movie where the sound is a tiny bit off the motions. Soft and medium hits felt more normal. The biggest issue is when you use spin, at anything approaching 1/2 to edge, say if you are jacked up over a ball, trying to masse, or shooting off the rail, the tip does not grab well and slides off the cueball. I tapped and scuffed it a few times, but that did not seem to help with this. I lost quite a few games where I fouled or missed because the cueball squirted off the tip in some odd direction, it felt almost like I was hitting with a phenolic break tip. There needs to be some more abrasive/stick on the tip, maybe using a microgel design like a magic eraser, where the outside edges are not so slick. When this happened, there was a large sticking chalk mark on the cueball also, like when it gets compressed in on a break shot, I had to scrape it off it with a fingernail because it was so stuck on the ball.
 
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hang-the-9 said:
The soft tip I got is interesting but going back to leather. I had the tip on my travel setup and was using it for about 4 weeks. The hit feel varied based on the speed, if you hit it harder, it seemed to absorb the hit feel, almost causing a delay in feed-back, sort of like a badly dubbed movie where the sound is a tiny bit off the motions. Soft and medium hits felt more normal. The biggest issue is when you use spin, at anything approaching 1/2 to edge, say if you are jacked up over a ball, trying to masse, or shooting off the rail, the tip does not grab well and slides off the cueball. I tapped and scuffed it a few times, but that did not seem to help with this. I lost quite a few games where I fouled or missed because the cueball squirted off the tip in some odd direction, it felt almost like I was hitting with a phenolic break tip. There needs to be some more abrasive/stick on the tip, maybe using a microgel design like a magic eraser, where the outside edges are not so slick. When this happened, there was a large sticking chalk mark on the cueball also, like when it gets compressed in on a break shot, I had to scrape it off it with a fingernail because it was so stuck on the ball.
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You might be able to help a soft tip's edges by burnishing the ever loving piss out of the sides. I understand tip hardness is pure preference but this is why I like hard tips, the edges don't compress so you can put some real exotic type spin on and not get that slip feeling. As long as they hold chalk, and as long as you can stroke it. On normal shots it doesn't matter as much, but once in a while you have to dig in to the CB.

I know this "is in milliseconds" but the feel of that squish on a soft tip and the ping on a hard tip is something you can feel in milliseconds. :D
 
Fitzz47 said:
After two weeks of use. I feel that I’ll stick with my techno duds. The soft Bullet tip doesn’t do it for me.
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I just installed a Techno Dud the other day for a customer at my shop and it was made from a bad elkmaster (90% of Elks are bad these days) and when I was done, it looked like Marge Simpsons hair! If the tip you start with is bad, you cannot press or chemically treat the bad out of it. If you'd like to try a Medium or Hard DM and I'll send you one to test.
 
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edcoopdeville said:
So about a month ago I purchased a bulletproof recoil (red medium) tip, but I've been hesitant to put it on my playing cue, because I wanted to make sure it wasn't just a gimmick, and that people are actually using them, and it's getting reviews (good or bad)?

As you can see I haven't opened it yet.
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The YouTube videos I've seen are all (for the most part) positive, which is fine, but I also use this website primarily, because I view the information that is posted and shared here, by the members, as valid (and for the most part) unbiased and creditable. So what's the feedback and reviews on this tip, and if there are already threads reviewing it, can you direct me to them?
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Many reviews on this thread and more here https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/new-bulletproof-synthetic-playing-tips.567535/
 
Bulletproof Billiards said:
I just installed a Techno Dud the other day for a customer at my shop and it was made from a bad elkmaster (90% of Elks are bad these days) and when I was done, it looked like Marge Simpsons hair! If the tip you start with is bad, you cannot press or chemically treat the bad out of it. If you'd like to try a Medium or Hard DM and I'll send you one to test.
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I bought a box of Elkmaster tips many years ago. I locked a caliper on the first one then quickly gauged the rest. Same with height. I have never purchased a tip with a size issue but I am waiting on the first one. Then I weighed the tips. Nine were super light and I flung them in the trash, cost me about three dollars. The rest that I have installed for myself or customers have been great.

There is an Elkmaster Pro available now. It is a sorted Elkmaster, nothing else different last I knew. Retail is around ten bucks for one. A few years back they were available in a three pack for about that price. Anyway, I can't help wondering if Elkmaster is selling the culls after sorting out the Pro's. Surely they aren't throwing away a bunch of tips. I like Elkmasters and have found there is little reason for dudding them for my personal cues after sorting them. However, I like tips on the soft side.

I am uneasy about the factory sorting and doubt I will purchase any more Elkmaster tips unless they get tired of that practice.

Hu
 
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