I Remeber...

When not at sea our ship spent most it's time alongside the piers in Little Creek, Virginia. On occasion, my buddies and me would take the bus to downtown Norfolk, where we would drink beer and play pool at the Navy YMCA.
Just down the street, and around the corner, was one of the great poolrooms of that period, St. Elmo's.
If you got there at the right time, on the right day, you could watch the great Luther Lassiter practicing, over in the corner.
Veterans are not pool related? I beg to differ. Veterans and pocket billiards go together like cornbread and beans. :)

P.S. With a slice of onion on the side.
 
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Tramp Steamer said:
When not at sea our ship spent most it's time alongside the piers in Little Creek, Virginia. On occasion, my buddies and me would take the bus to downtown Norfolk, where we would drink beer and play pool at the Navy YMCA.
Just down the street, and around the corner, was one of the great poolrooms of that period, St. Elmo's.
If you got there at the right time, on the right day, you could watch the great Luther Lassiter practicing, over in the corner.
Veterans are not pool related? I beg to differ. Veterans and pocket billiards go together like cornbread and beans. :)

P.S. With a slice of onion on the side.
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Now that's what I'm talking about. Thanks, Trampster.

Reminds me that in basic training, I was assigned all-night guard duty in the day room, of all places, which was equipped with a pool table. Couple of the drill instructors waltzed in from the NCO club, where they'd gotten liquored up, and wanted to play pool. Yessiree
Bob. I'd been on the road in San Francisco just before getting drafted, and was still well in stroke.

That session freed me from KP for the rest of basic training.

Happy, everyone?

P.S: Oh, and by the way: Thanks for all the red rep, you yellow bellies. I'm gonna send you all green in gratitude.
 
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3/178 HQHQB field artillary.

USNG.

13E.

8 years....never called into action. Honestly glad for that.

I was indeed ready to serve, but I'm proud and thankfull for those who actually did.

The freedom to ***** about our freedoms ain't cheap folks.
Many who have provided it will have no futher opinions on the matter.
 
U.S.N. '61 - '68 ... CWO4 ... Naval Air Intelligence.

I was "shot at and missed, shit at and hit."

Proudly served Our Country and always regretted not
staying at least 20 years. Those are the most memorable
days/years of my life.

God Bless America and Our Troops.
 
I am not a vet. I was denied voluntary enlistment due to life long asthma. I have many friends and family that are Vets. My wife is ex Coast Guard. I respect and admire all those who serve my country. God bless each and every one of you. I have the greatest respect and admiration for you. In the truest way.... Semper Fidelis.

Mark Shuman
 
Those Who Served

I spent 21 years in the US Navy. Got shot at and missed at Quang Tri and some other god forsaken places. Played lots of 3 day sessions in Olangapo, Clark, Yokosuka, Sasebo, and more places than I care to remember.

Funny how they always sent some guy from Manila down to try and beat me. They never could believe a sailor could play. Nothing beats the Pan Disal and stale beer after an all night session.

I'm the house pro at Slate's in NYC (used to be Chelsea Billiards).

My hats off to all the veterans! Thank you for your service.
 
Honor and Tribute

I'll not red rep ya 9ball. I never met a yellowbelly during my time serving and all the heros I knew have passed. I will say to you that there is no improper place or time to pay honor and tribute to those who have served.

USN 67-71
 
mfinkelstein3 said:
I spent 21 years in the US Navy. Got shot at and missed at Quang Tri and some other god forsaken places. Played lots of 3 day sessions in Olangapo, Clark, Yokosuka, Sasebo, and more places than I care to remember.

Funny how they always sent some guy from Manila down to try and beat me. They never could believe a sailor could play. Nothing beats the Pan Disal and stale beer after an all night session.

I'm the house pro at Slate's in NYC (used to be Chelsea Billiards).

My hats off to all the veterans! Thank you for your service.
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There were pool tables in Olongapo? I was there a year and a half, '68 - '69, and never saw one. And I lived offbase in Olongapo ("illegally"). Where were they? I never heard of any onbase, either, at Cubi or Subic. If there were any around that I knew of I would have been using them.
 
pulldapin said:
Aloha all,

Especially for those who served and continue to serve our great nation.

I remember my Father LT Rodney Edwin Kuehn USN (Operational Lose) VA-36 27 Oct 1943-7 Jan 1970 and my fallen commrads of Operation Redwing and to those who have fallen in support of it. Because of these sacrifices we continue to live in freedom (somewhat).

Mahalo and God bless all,
Carl

Again Mahalo.
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We continue to live in freedom because we poured a gazillion tons of high explosives on a little country like Vietnam, finally admitted defeat, and now our warmongering leaders are shipping American jobs over there as fast as they can get their tax credits for doing it? OK.

WWII at least had a moral rationale underneath it even if the results were hideous. The rest of America's "wars"- forget about it.
 
SSG Carl Bekowitz, United States Army, June 2001 to Present. 35F Intelligence Analyst. Served with 1st Cavalry Division Artillery,
5th Brigade Combat Team.
US Army Joint Intelligence Combat Training Center.
1st Squadron, 11th Armor Cavalry Regiment.
304th Military Intelligence Battalion.
United States Forces Afghanistan.
Afghanistan Document & Media Exploitation.
1-34 Cavalry Recon Squadron.
1st Battalion, 9th Marines, Marjah, Afghanistan.

To all the are serving and have served, Thank you. Sorry this is a little late for memorial day, but it doesn't take away from the appreciation that I have for each and every person that has served the United States of America.

You don't have to agree with policy,
You don't have to agree with politics,
you don't have to like the administration,
but don't take that out on the soldier.
____________________________________
It is the Soldier, not the minister
Who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the Soldier, not the reporter
Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the Soldier, not the poet
Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer
Who has given us freedom to protest.

It is the Soldier, not the lawyer
Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the Soldier, not the politician
Who has given us the right to vote.

It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

Carl
 
9BallPaul said:
Count me as one Vietnam vet who's sick and tired of the jingoism that's taken over this country since 9-11. Don't need to hear the national anthem before every sporting event, darn sure don't need "God Bless America" during the 5th inning, and only wish this country could get past seeing the planet as a vast game of Risk.

Cut the defense budget, get the homeless off the street corners, and use the leftover cash to buy every able-bodied male a McDermott G-core cue. We'll be a happier country. I add that because I think this thread is in the wrong forum, and I'm trying to steer it in the right direction.

Who are the top pros who also are vets? Anyone?
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Thank you for such an elucidating post! I was going to write nearly the same thing until I got to yours. Well said, my friend!

I am so sick of knee-jerk "thanks" when people today hear of my service in VN. Ironically, about 3 months into my tour, I realized we had no business in VN.

And today, in Iraq and Afghanistan, the situation is the same. We never had ANY business in Iraq or Afghanistan that advanced our national security--unless you consider making rich people richer an issue of national security.

Since WWII we've been a nation bent on imperialism, and sadly, the nation my ancestors fought to create is following the same course of imperialistic demise characterized by the Romans and British.
 
risky biz said:
We continue to live in freedom because we poured a gazillion tons of high explosives on a little country like Vietnam, finally admitted defeat, and now our warmongering leaders are shipping American jobs over there as fast as they can get their tax credits for doing it? OK.

WWII at least had a moral rationale underneath it even if the results were hideous. The rest of America's "wars"- forget about it.
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Well said! Props to you!
 
tedkaufman said:
I am so sick of knee-jerk "thanks" when people today hear of my service in VN. Ironically, about 3 months into my tour, I realized we had no business in VN.

And today, in Iraq and Afghanistan, the situation is the same. We never had ANY business in Iraq or Afghanistan that advanced our national security--unless you consider making rich people richer an issue of national security.
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I think some people are just trying to make up for the reported way that some of our military was treated when they returned from Vietnam.

JoeyA
 
It's true VN vets were, to say the least, not thanked. But the fact is, just like our troops today, we were sent on a wrong-headed mission with no real purpose. It's not the troops' fault; it's the fault of corporate greed and bought and paid for politicians who service their corporate benefactors.

When I returned from VN, I knew the protesters were right. I knew first hand. Just as I know the folly of the faux rah-rah patriotism promoted by Fox News to justify and support George Bush's wars of opportunity. It was all a lie.

When soldiers returned from WWII, they were justly and deservedly thanked for literally saving our country and our way of life. That has never been the case in any war since then. Our soldiers lives have been thrown away as so much fodder, to increase the wealth of those who don't need more and have never served to protect our nation.
 
JoeyA said:
I think some people are just trying to make up for the reported way that some of our military was treated when they returned from Vietnam.

JoeyA
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I didn't serve in Vietnam but I have plenty of friends and acquaintances who did. They haven't mentioned anything unusual. What are you talking about?
 
tedkaufman said:
When soldiers returned from WWII, they were justly and deservedly thanked for literally saving our country and our way of life. That has never been the case in any war since then. Our soldiers lives have been thrown away as so much fodder, to increase the wealth of those who don't need more and have never served to protect our nation.
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"Nail on the head" nomination for that.
 
CarlB said:
It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

Carl
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Carl, associating anyone who criticizes an imperialist foreign policy with someone who burns an American flag borders on ridiculous. We love our flag. That doesn't mean we have to love a government that tramples on it and what it is supposed to represent.

It's those who have turned this country into an imperialist empire who burned and are burning our flag, our Constitution, and everything else America was supposed to stand for when it was founded. Read a little history and figure out what it really means to be an American.

Chicago Tribune: 'You have been quoted here as an anti-imperialist.'
Mark Twain: 'Well, I am.'
~ Oct. 15, 1900
 
pulldapin said:
Aloha all,

Especially for those who served and continue to serve our great nation.

I remember my Father LT Rodney Edwin Kuehn USN (Operational Lose) VA-36 27 Oct 1943-7 Jan 1970 and my fallen commrads of Operation Redwing and to those who have fallen in support of it. Because of these sacrifices we continue to live in freedom (somewhat).

Mahalo and God bless all,
Carl

PS If you find the time visit http://navy.togetherweserved.com/usn/index.jsp and contribute to someones rememberance.

Again Mahalo.
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Great post,


My dad and Uncle(alive) served in WW2.


while I dont agree with the wars-I 10000% support the troops and have the highest respect for them and am greatful more than I can put into words. If it was not for them, I couldnt have done what I have done, I have awalys liked to think my taxes I pay is for them the troops. They deserve it and the vetrains equally deserve it. I couldnt have ever went to war, I'm a chicken, wimp what ever you want to call me. I dont have the balls to go into battle. I would like to be the people in Vegas that fly the drowns and blow shit up-it's like a video game. Or be a sniper in a well covered protected place. I'm very good with guns(wish I played pool as good as I shoot fire arms). But to be in a spot where a rad side bomb could blow up the Hummer I piss my pants and couldnt stand the ride. I have huge respect for the guys in battle, and even the support people working that are not at risk, they bust their asses and are underpaid.

The miliary should increase all compensation for active duty people and offer them more $ for education after their service. I dont give a rats ass about how "Broke" the economy is, pay the people more.
 
US Navy, ASW3, 1965-1968, VN 67-68. VP-19, P3-Orion crew member (radio, radar, julie, ecm)

I forgot everything I was tought.
 
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