I think I'm getting ripped off

TommyT

TommyT

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The other day on the for sale board I sold a Scruggs Titlist cue. The buyer went by tripod who didn't have any posts to his credit. He tells me he doesn't frequent the board but his daughter does and she really liked the cue and wished she could afford it. He wanted to buy the cue for her. We did the deal and he paid me with a echeck on paypal. I told him I wouldn't send the cue till the check cleared and that I was going to the SBE on Thurs. He asked for me to reconsider because he really wanted to get the cue to his daughter.
Well, I sent it yesterday. Since then I've tried to call him to tell him to expect the package. The number is bogus. When I checked my caller id I found that his number was blocked. He told me he was 65 years old and lived near Shea stadium and his bio on the AZ site says he is from Florida and is 21 years old.
I am expecting that the echeck will never clear and that I will be stuck for 4300.00!!!:eek:. And I forgot to mention that he also has been banned from here and has gone by the handle of Paris and Jasxe amongst others. I didn't know this at the time of sending the cue.
If the payment never clears I'm hiping that he can be traced thru his bank accnt that transfered the cash into his paypal accnt that has a confirmed address. Also thru his post office box where the cue is to be delivered today by 3:00. Should I be worried that this guy could get away with ripping me off for 4300.00.

TommyT
 
I sure hope thats not the case. It makes me VERY nervous to do any business on here because of the few stories I have read. (Long time lurker, new poster.)
I would imagine like you said, he did give you his account info - so maybe there is some saving grace.
Hope the best for you, keep us updated.
Kev
 
Scruggs cue

I went back and looked at your thread for the sale of your Scruggs cue and it's a beauty.

From the description of what's happened so far I would be worried about the echeck clearing. You have a lot of money at risk in this deal and I hope things work out for you.

James
 
If it's the same guy as ParisMango and BarkCinnamon - his information is here at the site and I believe that he has a PO Box somewhere -

Where did you ship the cue? - Perhaps you can get them to stop delivery on the package.
 
I hope it works out, but......

TommyT said:
The other day on the for sale board I sold a Scruggs Titlist cue. The buyer went by tripod who didn't have any posts to his credit. He tells me he doesn't frequent the board but his daughter does and she really liked the cue and wished she could afford it. He wanted to buy the cue for her. We did the deal and he paid me with a echeck on paypal. I told him I wouldn't send the cue till the check cleared and that I was going to the SBE on Thurs. He asked for me to reconsider because he really wanted to get the cue to his daughter.
Well, I sent it yesterday. Since then I've tried to call him to tell him to expect the package. The number is bogus. When I checked my caller id I found that his number was blocked. He told me he was 65 years old and lived near Shea stadium and his bio on the AZ site says he is from Florida and is 21 years old.
I am expecting that the echeck will never clear and that I will be stuck for 4300.00!!!:eek:. And I forgot to mention that he also has been banned from here and has gone by the handle of Paris and Jasxe amongst others. I didn't know this at the time of sending the cue.
If the payment never clears I'm hiping that he can be traced thru his bank accnt that transfered the cash into his paypal accnt that has a confirmed address. Also thru his post office box where the cue is to be delivered today by 3:00. Should I be worried that this guy could get away with ripping me off for 4300.00.

TommyT
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It sure sounds fishy to me. Never let anyone rush you with an excuse like that. And then having it delivered to a PO box. How long til Paypal says for the check to clear? I'd start doing some more investigating. FBI will find him if the funds don't clear. Scams across State lines, gets them involved. Best of luck to you.
 
I would immediately contact the police and the postal service in the area you sent the cue. They will be able to tell you if there is anything you can legally do to keep him from receiving the cue. Likely, even if you can't stop him from getting it, the police or post office will be made immediately aware of the scammer.
 
kbotta said:
I sure hope thats not the case. It makes me VERY nervous to do any business on here because of the few stories I have read. (Long time lurker, new poster.)
I would imagine like you said, he did give you his account info - so maybe there is some saving grace.
Hope the best for you, keep us updated.
Kev
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Kevin

These incidents are few and far between (from what I have seen). In this case, the buyer has ripped off several people here at the forum, and there is a group of people that have been exposing him every time he pops again. Several people wanted this users posts deleted, and this situation proves that posts and threads about bad deals and rip offs should not be deleted.

Always be leery of these guys that INSIST on sending the merchandise prior to the check clearing - or prior to money changing hands. For me, nobody gets merchandise before I have the cash in MY bank account. If you can't wait - go deal with somebody else. If they really are upfront and really want the merchandise, they will wait. Only deal with reputable buyers and sellers. If somebody has zero posts and zero transactions - that's a red flag. If he tries to twist my arm into sending the merchandise to him before his money clears - another red flag. You have to be smart and you have police it on your own.
 
bad move in shipping the cue before the check clears. I hope you get the cue back, but me figures you are screwed now.
 
Did Paypal have a confirmed address on file (if you look at your transaction, there will be a green "confirmed" or orange "unconfirmed" message under his address)? If he is confirmed, you might have some recourse with Paypal, but if he is unconfirmed, you are definitely SOL. Because the amount is so large, you should definately get the authorities involved. If it bounces, file a report with your local police as well as the local police at his address. I'm not sure if the FBI or Secret Service with this type of fraud, as SS deals with credit card fraud. Because you're sending to a PO Box, he should be easy enough for the authorities to track down.
 
See this is what makes it near IMPOSSIBLE for people like me (few post not much feedback) to sell anything here on AZ. Im actually in the process of completing my second transaction here on AZ, this time I am the seller, but it was sooooo hard finding a buyer because I dont post much and dont have much feedback. The way I see it is I dont like getting ripped off so I would never rip anyone else off. Do unto others....you know the rest. Anyway hopefully after a couple more transactions Ill have some feedback and it wont be as hard to sell things.

Im sorry to hear about your predicament and I hope everything works out for your but to be honest its not looking too good. Good luck though.
 
Be Afraid, Be VERY Afraid

TommyT said:
The other day on the for sale board I sold a Scruggs Titlist cue. The buyer went by tripod who didn't have any posts to his credit. He tells me he doesn't frequent the board but his daughter does and she really liked the cue and wished she could afford it. He wanted to buy the cue for her. We did the deal and he paid me with a echeck on paypal. I told him I wouldn't send the cue till the check cleared and that I was going to the SBE on Thurs. He asked for me to reconsider because he really wanted to get the cue to his daughter.
Should I be worried that this guy could get away with ripping me off for 4300.00.
TommyT
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I think that you should be VERY worried. Here's his AZB 'Profile':
iTrader: (0)
Date of Birth:
March 6, 1987
Age:
21
Location:
Tampa, FL
Interests:
photography Photography PHOTOGRAPHY


He doesn't read AZB, but his daughter does. He really wants the cue in a hurry for his daughter.

His daughter must be VERY talented. Tripod just made 21 years old last week, so how old is his daughter ?

Doug
( have the Postal Inspector waiting at his P.O. Box..... imo )
 
Ruh Roh.

Don't get your hopes up on tracking down the PO Box. The USPS won't get involved in stopping a shipment or trying to track down a PO Box user's info. People can also use fake info to get a PO Box. They require a warrant to do anything and even then they're slow. I've accidentally shipped a package to the wrong PO Box (thankfully, only a $50 transaction) and the Post Office would do nothing. The receipient accepted the items and never thought twice. Always be leary of PO Boxes!!! It's a shell game. If the person is honest, they will always find a shipping address for you to send something to and they should understand if you don't want to ship to a PO Box. On a transaction that big, I think I would have talked to him on the phone at least once to be sure his contact info was good. Good luck to you!
 
I think the only recourse you have is to fly to wherever this PO Box is today and wait on the perp to come into the post office and get your cue back. I would certainly book a flight and beat the shit out of someone if they stole a $4300 cue from me.
 
Blackjack said:
Tommy,

did you send it to

PO BOX 528145
Flushing, NY

???
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if any posters on here are from that area of NY or wherever the PO Box is then I would pay them to go and wait on the guy if you can't get there yourself or if the police can't do anything.
 
Blackjack said:
Kevin

These incidents are few and far between (from what I have seen). In this case, the buyer has ripped off several people here at the forum, and there is a group of people that have been exposing him every time he pops again. Several people wanted this users posts deleted, and this situation proves that posts and threads about bad deals and rip offs should not be deleted.

Always be leery of these guys that INSIST on sending the merchandise prior to the check clearing - or prior to money changing hands. For me, nobody gets merchandise before I have the cash in MY bank account. If you can't wait - go deal with somebody else. If they really are upfront and really want the merchandise, they will wait. Only deal with reputable buyers and sellers. If somebody has zero posts and zero transactions - that's a red flag. If he tries to twist my arm into sending the merchandise to him before his money clears - another red flag. You have to be smart and you have police it on your own.
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Blackjack,
I sure can understand WHY you would want to wait untill the check clears, and doing business legit. That makes perfect sense to me. I see a lot of fine - unhitched transactions for some awesome cues and some great deals. I'd like to someday be a part of a "great deal":D One fo the primary reasons I decided to go from "lurker" to "poster" with an account, is that in the near future I can see myself bidding/ buying a cue from someone here on this forum. Now, normally I would like to "try it before I buy it" (lay my hands on it) but that is not always the case. I guess what I am trying to say is, like Flipmode mentioned in post#12 - without the buyer transaction history (as in I have never done it on here) will someone still be willing to sell something to me? I'd be pretty hurt if someone did me like that. Esp. if I transfered funds and then didn't receive a cue in return. More than the $, it would be the principle of business ethics. I guess there is always someone in the crowd, ruining it for others,eh?
I suppose that is what the feedback is for. I will make sure when the time comes, that I buy from someone with good feedback.
Thanks!
Kev
 
corvette1340 said:
if any posters on here are from that area of NY or wherever the PO Box is then I would pay them to go and wait on the guy if you can't get there yourself or if the police can't do anything.
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Preferably one of our larger and more nefarious members. Nice idea.
 
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