I think I'm getting ripped off

TommyT said:
I just tried to get the phone number of the post office and there are 10 of them in the Flushing area.

Yes, but only one with the same zip code... $4300 worth 10 phone calls.
 
DeadPoked said:
If I were you I would find an AZ'er that lives in NYC and pay them something like $500 to stake out the place today and tomorrow and if they could follow the guy and get his address that you could turn over to police, I'd pay them another $500 for tracking him down.

I'd chip in some cash ... as long as he's not turned over to the police....
 
Call the post office and put a hold on it. Call the post where he lives and tell them that you suspect a fraudulent buyer and to DO NOT release it. Why would you sell to someone unprotected like that anyways?
 
Calling the delivery company is another option. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt they would be willing to stop delivery based on the facts here. Mainly because there is no proof that the check is even bad. Also because they are not going to research a bunch of threads, and even if they did it doesn't prove anything to them just because some people on the internet said the guy was a fraud. Finally, they are not the police and are not going to get in the middle of every civil or criminal matter for every customer that calls. They may do so at police request however.

I think you have a better chance (still very small chance) of getting them to reroute the package to another address. Sometimes they can do it and sometimes they can't (based on where the package is and how easy it would be to find). You would probably have to lie and tell them you addressed the package incorrectly somehow and have them ship it somewhere else.

Last option is speak to the local police and give them all the evidence and threads to look at and see if they can intervene with the delivery company or post office and stop the delivery.

I still think the best chance you have is to stake out his PO Box in person on delivery day.
 
TommyT said:
The other day on the for sale board I sold a Scruggs Titlist cue. The buyer went by tripod who didn't have any posts to his credit. He tells me he doesn't frequent the board but his daughter does and she really liked the cue and wished she could afford it. He wanted to buy the cue for her. We did the deal and he paid me with a echeck on paypal. I told him I wouldn't send the cue till the check cleared and that I was going to the SBE on Thurs. He asked for me to reconsider because he really wanted to get the cue to his daughter.
Well, I sent it yesterday. Since then I've tried to call him to tell him to expect the package. The number is bogus. When I checked my caller id I found that his number was blocked. He told me he was 65 years old and lived near Shea stadium and his bio on the AZ site says he is from Florida and is 21 years old.
I am expecting that the echeck will never clear and that I will be stuck for 4300.00!!!:eek:. And I forgot to mention that he also has been banned from here and has gone by the handle of Paris and Jasxe amongst others. I didn't know this at the time of sending the cue.
If the payment never clears I'm hiping that he can be traced thru his bank accnt that transfered the cash into his paypal accnt that has a confirmed address. Also thru his post office box where the cue is to be delivered today by 3:00. Should I be worried that this guy could get away with ripping me off for 4300.00.

TommyT
Check with law enforcement. At this point, it's up for felony fraud... something to do wth state lines and more than enough monetary value. Staking out his P.O.Box could be seen as vigilantism, and could go south in a hurry. Once committed to either solution, it's tough to use the other to help yourself and the civilian version could even do more harm to your cause than good. If it was me, I'd be on the phone and filing e-mails and reports with the pay service and law enforcement on both ends (at least local and maybe federal (FBI???)).

Good luck.


Carl
 
iba7467 said:
I'd chip in some cash ... as long as he's not turned over to the police....

Why not turn him over to the Police? Are you going to kick his ass? That's hilarious.
 
TommyT said:
I just tried to get the phone number of the post office and there are 10 of them in the Flushing area.
The zip code for his PO Box will be the same as the zip code for the post office so that will help narrow it down. If there is still more than one in that zip code just call them and ask if they have that PO Box number there. They can likely tell you which post office it is at, but if not they can tell you for sure if it is at theirs and you can just call all of them in that zip code.
 
Blackjack said:
For those forum members that have not kept up with the nonsense that "J Holmes" has been up to in the Wanted/For Sale forum - here is the condensed version of the story...

When he posted as BarkCinnamon, there was a bad transaction for some jackets - I forget the particulars, but he ripped off a few people and was subsequently banned - he came back as "Loniwheels" and ripped off another cue from Leon Sly (12/07/07)

His other aliases have been
jackie
applespliter
loniwheels
barkcinnamon
parismango
brownstone400
jasxe
Stanley
wrench

and probably others that I have missed.

The guy gets his rocks off by ripping people off. It's always the same story - he needs it now - the check will clear - etc -

If you run acorss something like this, my advice is to get with iba7467 or another respected forum member to serve as a broker prior to shipping the merchandise.



the shipping address is always
J Holmes
PO BOX 528145
Flushing, NY
11352

Are you sure that this is the correct zip code?

This site does not list 11352 as a US zip code.

http://www.payphone-project.com/mailboxes/states/maps/NY/FLUSHING.html

Steve
 
sde said:
Are you sure that this is the correct zip code?

This site does not list 11352 as a US zip code.

http://www.payphone-project.com/mailboxes/states/maps/NY/FLUSHING.html

Steve


USPS does list it.
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easy-e said:
Why not turn him over to the Police? Are you going to kick his ass? That's hilarious.

You seem to want to chime in when I post. The post was meant comically. I would notify the police and the post office as I already mentioned earlier.

However, if I received no satisfaction through legal channels and it were my $4300; I would pay someone $1000 to catch him at his house, yes.
 
That address is bad.

The closest PO to that address is at 4165 Main Street Flushing.

Tommy at this point I'd first call that post office and tell them you think you have a problem with a bad address and ask them to return the shipment to you until you get a good address.

The number to that PO is 718-321-6890.

Good luck.

Mike
 
caedos said:
Check with law enforcement. At this point, it's up for felony fraud... something to do wth state lines and more than enough monetary value. Staking out his P.O.Box could be seen as vigilantism, and could go south in a hurry. Once committed to either solution, it's tough to use the other to help yourself and the civilian version could even do more harm to your cause than good. If it was me, I'd be on the phone and filing e-mails and reports with the pay service and law enforcement on both ends (at least local and maybe federal (FBI???)).

Good luck.


Carl
At this point it is not up for felony fraud or anything else. NO crime has been committed.....yet. The check has not yet bounced, even though we know it probably will. The police are more than likely going to say there is nothing they can do until the check bounces. By then it will be too late, and he will have already picked up the cue and the police will have no way to find him because he gave bogus information to get the PO Box with.

I highly suggest that he pursue all of the phone call options before flying down there because it is easier and cheaper, but in the end I think he will have to be there in person on the delivery date to have any chance of ever recovering his cue. There would be no problem with being there in person, especially if you just gathered identifying information and did not confront them and beat their a$$ yourself.
 
Let me play devil's advocate here for second - this guy is always around this forum. There is a good chance that he is reading this thread and pissing is pants laughing at the posts that are being made. Hell - he'll probably post in this thread undetected just to get his rocks off again - IMO he has posted in this thread - just for shits and giggles.

Waiting at the PO Box may or may not work. He's reading this and he knows about the risk of showing up there. However - if you contact law enforcement and work with the moderators of this site to track down his IP and ISP - we can put an end to this guy's nonsense once and for all.

To THE THIEF -
Now, I know you're reading this - I know you're having fun playing with your multiple personalities - and believe me when I say this - you are definitely original, and very convincing when you have to be. I don't buy your current story, I haven't bought the stories you have used in the past, and if I'm being honest, I think you're a complete asshole - and someday, somewhere, somehow, you'll get what's coming to you. Laugh while you still can, keep inventing your aliases 5 and 10 at a time - its all traceable and it will ultimately be your downfall.

:D (right back atcha)
 
This pr#$k needs to do 30 days. This is becoming a habit for him. No matter what it took, I would stop delivery and pursue this.
 
iba7467 said:
You seem to want to chime in when I post. The post was meant comically. I would notify the police and the post office as I already mentioned earlier.

However, if I received no satisfaction through legal channels and it were my $4300; I would pay someone $1000 to catch him at his house, yes.

Do I? It must be a coincidence, I don't chime in on your posts intentionally. I would have said the same thing to anyone on here that posted that. People love to say they would track someone down and hurt them, I don't think it will EVER happen. I sincerely hope I am proved wrong.
 
Pulled this info off of google.

J Holmes
718.358.6855

4266 Phlox Place
Apt E2
Flushing, NY 11355


Mailing the cue makes it a federal offence. Assuming the cheque bounces.
 
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TommyT said:
The other day on the for sale board I sold a Scruggs Titlist cue. The buyer went by tripod who didn't have any posts to his credit. He tells me he doesn't frequent the board but his daughter does and she really liked the cue and wished she could afford it. He wanted to buy the cue for her. We did the deal and he paid me with a echeck on paypal. I told him I wouldn't send the cue till the check cleared and that I was going to the SBE on Thurs. He asked for me to reconsider because he really wanted to get the cue to his daughter.
Well, I sent it yesterday. Since then I've tried to call him to tell him to expect the package. The number is bogus. When I checked my caller id I found that his number was blocked. He told me he was 65 years old and lived near Shea stadium and his bio on the AZ site says he is from Florida and is 21 years old.
I am expecting that the echeck will never clear and that I will be stuck for 4300.00!!!:eek:. And I forgot to mention that he also has been banned from here and has gone by the handle of Paris and Jasxe amongst others. I didn't know this at the time of sending the cue.
If the payment never clears I'm hiping that he can be traced thru his bank accnt that transfered the cash into his paypal accnt that has a confirmed address. Also thru his post office box where the cue is to be delivered today by 3:00. Should I be worried that this guy could get away with ripping me off for 4300.00.

TommyT

This transaction was loaded with red flags. NEVER ship to someone you don't know before you receive the money. Doesn't sound good for you but Good Luck!
 
Thanks

I see. Is there a way to determine the street address of the post office where that box resides?

MM...on a mission
 
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