If someone was pulling this would you quit?

[Black-Balled]

...Secondly if someone takes me to 7-5, I would never give another game on the wire.

Agreed, or if you don't mind adjusting, make it clear that if your opponent wants to adjust after only one set you will expect the same consideration if he wins at the new game. Then quit if you lose...next time you play you have to make him accountable for his agreement to return to the original spot.

 

[i_maycotte]

My advice, don't play on 7 footers for money...it's too iffy anyway...might as well go out back and play marbles. Invite him to play on a 9 footer and teach him a lesson if it aggrivates you so bad.

 

[ShootingArts]

that was a cruel cold mean thing to do

That was a cruel cold mean unkind thing to do. Did I mention super funny? I laughed out loud for awhile thinking of the noise and the guy instantly knowing he had been had. First laugh of the day, thanks.

Hu

it's funny about this post and what you say cause i let an opponent use my cue once on a very important shot for him in a tourney in chicago. i just loosened the shaft a little and handed him the cue, he never checked it. when he shot the ball the cue made this god-awful noise and he missed bad. needless to say he was hot and of course never asked to use my cue again.

 

[Snapshot9]

Advice

1) Never let an opponent use your cues.... period. Even if they don't beat you with them, they could damage your cue, and then you would not have it when you needed it most ..... duh!

2) This adjusting every set is just a loser whining. I am not in it to get to the middle (50-50 competition), I am there to make money. If they don't how to make a game, let them be the victim of their own stupidity. If you adjust every set, YOU WILL BE THE VICTIM OF YOUR OWN STUPIDITY. In the old days, no one adjusted unless one player was up $500 or more.
It is up to lessor players to COME UP, not for better players to COME DOWN. EVEN the very best players CAN NOT OUTRUN THE SPOT all the time (bad table, bad rolls, break isn't working, opponent gets lucky). Someone that doesn't factor in the X factors when making a game, will soon be taking money out of their pocket to pay.

A matchup for money is a WAR, make no mistake about it. If he had 50 men, and you had 150, would you send 50 of your men to his side just so he would feel better ... duh! (you are helping him to defeat yourself, and that's what you do everytime you adjust after 1 set).
==> Read the Art of War by Sun Tzu (regarded by scholars as one if not the best strategist of all time). It will change the way you think about the game, and help the mental side to your game tremendously.

Players THAT HAVE TO PLAY ALL THE TIME, and therefore make money matchups JUST SO THEY CAN PLAY, will always find themselves in trouble sooner or later. Be more discreet about your matchups, and you pick your battles, not someone else. Tournaments can be used to play some better players if you want, or even money matches that YOU want to. ANY PLAYING SOMEONE ELSE IS NOT PRACTICE (HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT!!!), IT IS A COMPETITION (TO SHOW WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW). Think of other sports, do they play other teams for practice, NO, they play among themselves working on basic aspects of their game BEFORE THEY PLAY SOMEONE ELSE.

 

[alstl]

I let people borrow my jump/break, most of them can jump with it better than me, when I'm just hitting balls or as the British call it, a knockabout. If I was gambling or in a tournament I would say no unless of couse I was gambling with someone so inept it didn't matter.

Next time offer to sell the jump cue to the guy at significantly more than you paid for it.

 

[mikepage]

Well thats the thing, normally this guy plays a straight up game, and just tries to run out or plays safe, which is kewl. thats all i really look for in someone who plays, is a honest game.

But just banging balls around, that stuff is for newbies.

I'm a little confused. You seem to know his game and chose to start out giving him a game on the wire. So that means you must see yourself as the superior player, at least by a bit, right? But then you imply that he lets you get out to an early lead and then reels you back when he wants to. That doesn't sound like something a lesser player can do.

I don't see why you care that he's banging balls or playing wide open. But I also don't understand why you'd give him more weight under the circumstances. Maybe if you played for $50 a set instead of $20, his antics wouldn't be there or they wouldn't bother you.

mike page
fargo

 

[Dhakala]

I would have assumed that if a guy let me use his jump cue once, it was OK to use it again. And I would never give such permission in a money game.

"If you know how someone plays, and they are pulling some crap like banging balls around, and basically just around, would you quit the set, mid match, or tell him to play like he should or theres no money in the end."

Essentially, you're saying you won't pay up if you don't feel like it. How do you like your thumbs broken?

 

[MFB]

Now I'm trying to not sound like a NIT.....

Too late. JMHO

 

[Gregg]

Too late. JMHO

Right.

I mean, it's like "Yea, um I can hold my own against "A" player but got smoked by a ball banger last night." Huh?

Oh, and nobody touches my cues. If someone makes a mess out of my cue, it's going to be me.

 

[pharaoh68]

When I play someone, I like to level the playing field as much as possible for the best possible game. That's the point of giving/getting weight. But I don't like to limit it to ball spots and games. I like to play someone as completely even as possible. And to me, that means equipment. I offer my jump cue to people I'm playing all the time. But again, that's just me.

Now as for you, when he asked if he could use your jump cue and you obliged, you sort of opened the door for him to think that it would be okay to use it again. Maybe others might not have just assumed. But you can't fault him for doing so.

Secondly, you shouldn't have changed the weight after a 7-5 set. Personally, I like to keep the spot the same for at least two sets because an opponent could dog it with the hopes of getting more weight not to mention that it is entirely possible for a good player to have a bad set (without dogging it). So never change the weight after just one set. Especially when the score is pretty close.

 

[bells]

right..............

That's just 9 ball.

If your in a gunfight, don't hand the other guy your gun because he's likely to shoot you with it. Words to live by.

I like what blackjack has to say here. If I am gambling with someone whos game I know I never adjust the weight in the same day. Whatever we agree with in the begining is what it stays at. I think you adjusted the weight too quickly considering the score of the first set you played. If you dont like handing your money over to people........then do not hand them a tool that is going too help them open up your wallet.

 

[Dhakala]

it's funny about this post and what you say cause i let an opponent use my cue once on a very important shot for him in a tourney in chicago. i just loosened the shaft a little and handed him the cue, he never checked it. when he shot the ball the cue made this god-awful noise and he missed bad. needless to say he was hot and of course never asked to use my cue again.

ROFL!! A man after my own despicable, low-down heart! Way to go, Skins!