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Okay, if you could have a cue or shaft sound, feel and play exactly the
way you wanted, what would it be. Would it have no deflection, pro taper
or what. I don't get the REVO, BECUE thing. It seems that the biggest
thing is it won't dent or warp. A dent is no big deal on a wood shaft, very
easy to fix, and I never had a shaft warp to the point that it was a problem.
A little lift when it's rolled on the table is nothing to me. Most if not all
sports equipment that has gone from wood to another the performance
is drastically improved. Is this the case with these shafts, if so how ?
You have very little choice in what you can get, taper, size, weight etc,
and at a pretty high price. If it performed even 5 or 10 percent better
than wood, I could understand. If the dent and warp thing is about
all there is then I don't get it. I read I don't like the taper or the looks
and it has no feedback but I can get used to it. Would like to here if
there is any performance increase, if so I would order one today.
jack
 
My dream shaft would be:

Pro Taper
12.65mm
low deflection
1/3 inch ferrule height
have good compression (helps the cueball come off the end of shaft)
3.8 oz or whatever weight that would make the cue balanced
a little stiff, not too much
evenly balanced (I have one schon shaft that has all the weight in the rear)
i'd prefer 3/8 x 10 but with phenolic threads (like Tiger shafts)
black phenolic collar to match butt
a shaft whos feedback feels good no matter how soft or hard you hit the cue ball

:)
 
jackpot said:
Okay, if you could have a cue or shaft sound, feel and play exactly the way you wanted, what would it be. Would it have no deflection, pro taper or what.
I don't get the REVO, BECUE thing. It seems that the biggest thing is it won't dent or warp. A dent is no big deal on a wood shaft, very easy to fix, and I never had a shaft warp to the point that it was a problem.
A little lift when it's rolled on the table is nothing to me. Most if not all sports equipment that has gone from wood to another the performance is drastically improved. Is this the case with these shafts, if so how ?
You have very little choice in what you can get, taper, size, weight etc, and at a pretty high price. If it performed even 5 or 10 percent better than wood, I could understand. If the dent and warp thing is about all there is then I don't get it. I read I don't like the taper or the looks and it has no feedback but I can get used to it.
Would like to here if there is any performance increase, if so I would order one today.
jack
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I am not sure the compression between other non-wood sports equipment and a cue shaft are equal. After all, it's not like swinging a golf club or racket.

As far as the Revo goes, the real hook for me would be in the lack of maintenance, consistency between shaft to shaft followed by the idea of durability and longevity.

Over the course of a week, it's common for me to shoot a minimum of 20 hours (leagues, drills, etc), add another 10 or more if I'm in a weekend tournament.
I have always like the feel of a clean shaft; my Revo feels new with 5 second wipe down.
I converted to low deflection shafts long ago and I was already a fan of the original Revo shaft and I am now locked in with the 12.4 diameter version.
I do like the idea of no dents, no warping, and easy cleaning.

As far as performance improvement; nothing could be more subjective:
Some of the best shooters I know would never consider a LD shaft. This has nothing to do with performance for them; it's about what they know and that the deflection compensation is basically hardwired in their brain. Re-learning and/or going through it getting worse before it gets better is of no interest to some.

Personally, I was at a comfortable level but stuck there; LD gave me a re-spark to but in more time and I did improve as a result of the time/effort.

For you personally, IMO this directly depends on what you are using, how long you've been using it, how you are with change and/or willingness to try new technology.
Personally, I had no problems with my previous LD shafts; I don't see or feel any direct performance gain or loss with the Revo shaft nor do I have any reservations or regrets switching.
 
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jackpot said:
Okay, if you could have a cue or shaft sound, feel and play exactly the
way you wanted, what would it be.
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It would be absolutely silent, unless there was a gambler in the house, in which case it would make a howling sound like a worn out banshee.
 
jackpot said:
Okay, if you could have a cue or shaft sound, feel and play exactly the
way you wanted, what would it be. Would it have no deflection, pro taper
or what. I don't get the REVO, BECUE thing. It seems that the biggest
thing is it won't dent or warp. A dent is no big deal on a wood shaft, very
easy to fix, and I never had a shaft warp to the point that it was a problem.
A little lift when it's rolled on the table is nothing to me. Most if not all
sports equipment that has gone from wood to another the performance
is drastically improved. Is this the case with these shafts, if so how ?
You have very little choice in what you can get, taper, size, weight etc,
and at a pretty high price. If it performed even 5 or 10 percent better
than wood, I could understand. If the dent and warp thing is about
all there is then I don't get it. I read I don't like the taper or the looks
and it has no feedback but I can get used to it. Would like to here if
there is any performance increase, if so I would order one today.
jack
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I really do, in all honesty, absolutely LOVE my revo. I play with a black P3 with a real lizard wrap by esperitu. I started playing again not long ago and I played with a Z2 more than anything. The only problem was I just didn't like how *whippy the Z was. The sound was muted as well. I loved the diameter and the way it performed though. I was interested in trying out something stiffer and moving to a vantage or even a non LD shaft, that is, until the revo came out. Good thing too because I got my revo shaft way cheaper than I would've gotten a good custom cue for. My favorite thing about the revo is the sound. It has a really nice, natural(believe it or not) *ping to the hit. I love the taper, maybe not as much as a pro-taper but I can't tell a difference when stroking. I also have a problem dropping or dinging my cues since I like to drink when I play. The fact that it still feels brand new is amazing to me. I also love that it's black. It just looks cool to me. As far as an increase in performance? I would just practice more. You won't make any more balls with a revo than you would with any other predator shaft. I get all the feedback from the feel I need, as well. I highly recommend the revo simply because there's nothing I don't like about it. But to each is their own. Hope you're happy with whatever you end up getting.
 
I play a Mike Webb low deflection shaft 30" on a predator BK2 wrapless! I've been playing this combination for over 2 yrs now. I couldn't be happier:)

I don't know the technical stuff about the shaft, I let Mike deal with stuff!

When we talked about what tapers and thickness I showed him what I had and to replicate that. He looked at for a minute and said no problem! 2 weeks later I had exactly what I asked for (2 shafts) and I couldn't be happier!

Of course with the 2 shafts I do have a favorite but I recently found the other shaft I don't play much plays better on nap cloth! Don't ask me why or how it just does!

I used to get into all that technical stuff about cues but realized obsessed wasting too much time and energy in that! For me, if it feels right, that's all that matters and this is definitely the longest I've gone without having any second thoughts on my equipment.

The other thing is tips, I know there is a difference but if you have a decent stroke you can anywhere on a table! When I need a tip I just call Mike Webb and he puts one on for me!

I don't know what the name of it is but I can draw the ball twice the length of the table on 4 foot shot,,,, that's ok for me:)

I may be a little too ignorant on my equipment knowledge but I'd rather spend the time on the table than knowing how a soft tip does this and a medium does that and this why you shoot with a hard tip for whatever!

Lmao, I don't even know what hardness my tip is?!?! Oh well, Mike put it on and hits perfect so I could care less:)

Eli
 
LIAKOS27 said:
I play a Mike Webb low deflection shaft 30" on a predator BK2 wrapless! I've been playing this combination for over 2 yrs now. I couldn't be happier:)

I don't know the technical stuff about the shaft, I let Mike deal with stuff!

When we talked about what tapers and thickness I showed him what I had and to replicate that. He looked at for a minute and said no problem! 2 weeks later I had exactly what I asked for (2 shafts) and I couldn't be happier!

Of course with the 2 shafts I do have a favorite but I recently found the other shaft I don't play much plays better on nap cloth! Don't ask me why or how it just does!

I used to get into all that technical stuff about cues but realized obsessed wasting too much time and energy in that! For me, if it feels right, that's all that matters and this is definitely the longest I've gone without having any second thoughts on my equipment.

The other thing is tips, I know there is a difference but if you have a decent stroke you can anywhere on a table! When I need a tip I just call Mike Webb and he puts one on for me!

I don't know what the name of it is but I can draw the ball twice the length of the table on 4 foot shot,,,, that's ok for me:)

I may be a little too ignorant on my equipment knowledge but I'd rather spend the time on the table than knowing how a soft tip does this and a medium does that and this why you shoot with a hard tip for whatever!

Lmao, I don't even know what hardness my tip is?!?! Oh well, Mike put it on and hits perfect so I could care less:)

Eli
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Having your mind free of doubt and care is probably the best feeling ever when shooting pool.
 
I am extremely happy with my McDermott G-core. Even though I have had people tell me its not an LD shaft for whatever reason, the only reasons they ever supplied were "because", it seems to work well for me. It hits well, the deflection is more than acceptable, and they seem to be pretty consistent as I have 2 of them that pretty much play identical. I would be reluctant to change because then I would need to learn characteristics of a different cue/shaft and I really do not believe there is anything I would gain.
 
fastone371 said:
I am extremely happy with my McDermott G-core. Even though I have had people tell me its not an LD shaft for whatever reason, the only reasons they ever supplied were "because", it seems to work well for me. It hits well, the deflection is more than acceptable, and they seem to be pretty consistent as I have 2 of them that pretty much play identical. I would be reluctant to change because then I would need to learn characteristics of a different cue/shaft and I really do not believe there is anything I would gain.
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You've touched on something I believe. Which is, buy a decent cue and stick with it. Constant searching for the magic arrow won't improve your game. Practice after good coaching will.
 
Jimbojim said:
Having your mind free of doubt and care is probably the best feeling ever when shooting pool.
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Not "probably", it is!

I'm not a great player by any stretch of the imagination but I can say 90% of the time when I miss I know it was me letting up! The other 10% of the time is me not knowing the shot!

When you stop sugar coating your game and a realize what you doing wrong AND start being honest with yourself,,, you will be a ball better! Sounds wacky but it's true!

Eli
 
Maple shafts.....16-18" taper...12.75 mm shafts (flat faced) & 4.0 ozs. absolute min. wt. or
13.0 mm weighing 4.25ozs. min. and one (1) in. ivory ferrules.......that's my Holy Grail".
Any shafts in between those sizes are acceptable but the shafts have to be > 4.0 ozs.
I want cues where the shafts are 20% or more of the cue's weight & preferably are 21-22%.


Matt B.
 
I'll let you know if it's my perfect cue in about 5 months. Just ordered it last month at the expo and I am thinking it is about as close to my perfect cue as I'll get.
 
potter used to make the libra cues
he bought many the balabushka and szamboti

since retiring he has borrowed one cue after another from me
he plays great with all of them until he can not get a game
then he concerns himself with finding the perfect cue

he is like the rest of us with too much time
too few games and too cheap bets
 
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