If You Think Pro Instructors are getting BIG BUSINESS from AZ Forum Members...
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I've purchased DVD's from all of the mentioned as well and never did leave feedback.
I enjoy all of their posts, some I agree with some not but feel that they all have a lot to add to the forum.
CJ is the one that I pay the closest attention to, he was always a pool player that I really admired and he's willing to share a lot of things he's learned over the years.
They are all fine with me, and the fact that the forums help them sell a little product is fine with me!
I enjoy all of their posts, some I agree with some not but feel that they all have a lot to add to the forum.
CJ is the one that I pay the closest attention to, he was always a pool player that I really admired and he's willing to share a lot of things he's learned over the years.
They are all fine with me, and the fact that the forums help them sell a little product is fine with me!
I think that you guys selling your instruction on here is great..... to those that think otherwise..... Bummer for you... Don't buy the CD for 20.00 or whatever they are asking. Maybe your game doesn't need the help or maybe you need some instruction at 20.00 a ball 
Suit yourself
Suit yourself
they are probably selling more than their itrader says?
they do offer some great info, well said
We're going to the production studio at 4:00 - we're getting CLOSE. :smile:
Ha; hope it gets done; money is burning a hole in my pocket waitin on it. Actually have been using it since you started posting about it. Think I have it about 50% figured out or so by your postings. Went to the bar the other night to play with a bunch of league players I know. We normally play BCA 8 ball. I was running out from everywhere; they asked me what the hell got into me and I just replied toi baby, toi... they said yea whatever... I'm hopin none of them figure out how to order the dvd :grin-devilish:
I'm glad you included BigTruck and the tournament directors.
Most of us don't have any idea how much time Ray Hansen puts in behind the wheel, behind the cameras, behind the mike etc.
If we all knew how much effort he puts in to bringing us the livestreams, we would all be premium members, which is the best value anyway. BigTruck is also an advertiser right here on AZ Billiards, so he supports this forum with his meager earnings as well. If you buy the premium membership you get more than just a full year's worth of great LiveStream pool events, you even get a free Kamui tip which you can get by clicking here.
And don't get me started about those pesky over-paid salesmen.
TOI is REALLY STRONG for one pocket....wait til you see this for yourself.
I'm glad you're catching on to this. I'm sure by the time it's reaches the mainstream public that it's as effective as I say my critics will be chirping "we knew Touch of Inside worked all along..CJ just said what we've been saying for 23222 posts"....LoL....wow, that did make me laugh out loud.
I'm glad you're catching on to this. I'm sure by the time it's reaches the mainstream public that it's as effective as I say my critics will be chirping "we knew Touch of Inside worked all along..CJ just said what we've been saying for 23222 posts"....LoL....wow, that did make me laugh out loud.
Chris:
Your i-Trader experience is MARKEDLY different from mine. In my years of being here on AZB -- and having done a good bit of commerce, purchasing cues, DVDs, pool accessories, etc. -- only one vendor, Nancy Cote (of Cue-Z / FingerSlides fame) has ever left me i-Trader feedback. The rest couldn't be bothered, even when I tried to chase them up and ask them to give some. So I gave up even trying a couple years ago.
To me, it goes to show how UNRELIABLE an indicator that i-Trader is, regarding commerce done here on AZB.
So, to me, i-Trader is essentially useless in determining how much business a particular vendor/hawker has done on AZB. It's sad, too, because it COULD be a useful tool, if effort is put into participating in it.
Anyway, going by CJ's/Geno's/Stan's/et al. i-Trader rating as some kind of "indicator" of how much commerce they've done on this site, is about as relevant as someone's "rep" rating in determining whether his/her posts are worthwhile or not. I think many of the sales go direct to his/her website, even if the "seeds" for that sale were spawned here on AZB.
I'm sure geno has sold a heck of a lot more of his DVDs and lessons than indicated by his "2" i-Trader rating, and I'd say the same for CJ and Stan (and others) as well. In fact, I'd go out on a limb to say that, with confidence.
-Sean
I have noticed that some are lackadaisical about both leaving rep when due and leaving i-trader. The old timers seem to be a little more polite in this regard.
It's too bad because the i-trader is useful when considering a deal with somebody. This thread seems to have inspired a few i-traders for C.J. at least!
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We're going to the production studio at 4:00 - we're getting CLOSE. :smile:
Love the overhead camera shot. Everyone doing pool videos needs that capacity as it is one of the best angles to see the complete picture.
Itrader
Firstly I disagree completely. they have sold very many more than 10 dvds total I would bet.
secondly, I put no faith in itrader. I have sold several cues/bought several cues/dvd's and have absolutely zero itrader. for one reason, I ask for no itrader.
in addition i have seen several transactions that went bad from people with good itrader.
Firstly I disagree completely. they have sold very many more than 10 dvds total I would bet.
secondly, I put no faith in itrader. I have sold several cues/bought several cues/dvd's and have absolutely zero itrader. for one reason, I ask for no itrader.
in addition i have seen several transactions that went bad from people with good itrader.
I dont think anyone is against them selling anything, well thats how I read it anyway I thought the problem was they are doing it on the main fourm and not in the forsale fourm, I believe that training aids such as videos should be in the main fourm and equipment like cues and tables should be in the forsale fourm. The arguments shouldn't be who is selling stuff but what they are selling! I should have the same right to sell a training video I make as any of the pros do whether you buy it would be up to you.
mentally stimulating questions, theories and opinions.
This is the point that makes the difference. If the product can be discussed with over a hundred posts asking and answering questions about the product it's good for the forum. Not physical questions, like what's the product made out of, but mentally stimulating questions, theories and opinions.
Without this type information you guys will have a pretty bland forum. And, if you don't want to see it, simply don't click on the thread or put the ones you don't like or agree with on "ignore". Problem solved.
This is the point that makes the difference. If the product can be discussed with over a hundred posts asking and answering questions about the product it's good for the forum. Not physical questions, like what's the product made out of, but mentally stimulating questions, theories and opinions.
Without this type information you guys will have a pretty bland forum. And, if you don't want to see it, simply don't click on the thread or put the ones you don't like or agree with on "ignore". Problem solved.