I'll go first, my credentials as a self-proclaimed "Master Billiards Technician"

realkingcobra

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I'll go first, my credentials as a self-proclaimed "Master Billiards Technician"

I started in this industry in September 1983 working for Queen City Billiards building home style pool tables, 7,8, and 9fts, 1 piece slates and 3 piece. Built a little over 300 tables in my time there. From what I know now, back then we built one of the best midrange tables on the market.

Quit in June 1984, to start my own billiards service business, didn't feel like I was doing enough to improve the players industry in the bars and pool rooms, at this time made the prediction that I was someday going to build the best coin-operated pool tables on earth...LOL.

From June 1984-June 1995, built the largest service business in Washington State with more than 300 bar/pool room accounts recovering over 1,000 tables a year. I pioneered the Iwan Simonis 760 cloth, as well as the Granito 2000 cloth in the bar table industry in the Pacific Northwest. I was also responsible for the major changes in the price of pool tables going from .25 cents a game to .50 cents a game in Washington State, as when I became so flooded with work, I started to decline recovering the pool tables in the bars that wouldn't change their prices, because they were the ones also that didn't want to pay my prices for recovering their pool tables because they only made .25 cents a game.

Quit in June 1995, turned over my service business to my younger brother. Started pursuing my dreams of the ultimate coin-operated pool table. Sold my first coin-operated pool table for $3,000 on July 15th, 1995.

From June 1995 to December 1999, built and sold 102 8ft coin-operated pool tables, and 26 9ft tables...called "King Cobra" pool tables. At the same time I also designed, built, and sold 200 King Cobra 2 platter ball polishers from Vancouver, Canada to San Diego, CA.

January 2000 started looking for a manufacture to build my tables. March of 2000, Tom at Global Billiards told me of Diamond Billiards wanting to build coin-operated pool tables, so I contacted them.

March 2000, drove out to their factory, met with Greg Sullivan and Chad Sharlow. Took Greg's proto type cue ball separator home with me to redesign it.

Returned to the Diamond factory in July 2000 with the redesigned cue ball separator, turned it over to Greg. It now worked on store bought batteries.

I did not design the entire Diamond "Smart Table", but did play a major role in its production as I had all the knowledge that Diamond didn't have when it came to building the "Smart Tables" If you look at the Diamond coin-operated pool tables, and the ProAms, they're kind of like a Heinz 57 dog, myself, Greg, Chad, Donny Hall all played a major part in creating this great pool table. Who did what is beside the point really, the bottom line is that the table was designed, built, produced, and improved on since it's conseption...by all of us involved.

I stayed on at Diamond until late January 2001 working closely with the factory as a consultant until I felt it was time to leave.

From February 2001 until now, I've been back to recovering pool tables and delivering pool tables as well. I work for Global Billiards selling their coin-operated pool tables, as well as occasionally selling some Diamond coin-operated pool tables too, as I also work for 2 different finance companies also, for the purpose of financing pool tables for bars and room owners.

So, let me clarify this for Greg Sullivan, as he would rather I not be possibly thought of as working for Diamond. I do not, and have not...ever worked for the Diamond factory, other than in the capacity that I have already described above, as a consultant.

I do however deliver a lot of their pool tables throughout the United States, but Diamond bills the customer for that, then pays me.

Now, for my abilities.

(1) I can recover bar tables as well as any other pool tables on the market, to perfection.
(2) I can repair broken slate in most cases to perfection.
(3) I can level any slates on any tables built, 1 piece, 3 piece, 5 piece...it don't matter to me. BUT, that don't mean I'll do it on junk tables, that's my choice.
(4) I can replace rail rubber to perfection, including shimming pockets if necessary, or requested.
(5) I can recover any pool table built, to include snooker tables and billiards tables without puckers or loose cloth.
(6) I can and do move pool tables, home style, coin-operated, don't matter to me, they're all easy.
(7) I have perfected a method of installing the bed cloth on pool tables that is unmatched and unchallenged by any billiards technician in this country, unless you learned it from me, as some have.
(8) I can recover feather striped rails, or bar rails to perfection with ease.
(9) I can repair or fix almost anything wrong with a pool table within reason.
(10) I can and have built replacement rails for Valley/Dynamo/Global as well as every other kind of coin-operated pool table in Washington State, and will soon be offering these new, better, after market rails to billiards technicians across the country for distribution replacement rails.
(11) And last but most importantly, I can teach my trade to others with ease, as this is maybe one of my best assets of this trade, and I do have the desire to pass them on to others who want to learn, or improve their skills.

Glen

PS. I forgot to add that I've also owned 3 pool rooms in the past, one with 37 tables, and was also a vendor for several years in the bar table industry.
 
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Picture of who I am, and of one of the 9ft King Cobra coin-op tables I built.
 

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Well when you get some experience come back and talk to us !!! LOL .... man if ever there was a title for Master you are it...we are lucky to have you post here..a big thank you for all your informative posts...have a great day..sincerly Cj...:) :) :)
 
Good you posted a picture of yourself Glen, somehow I imagined you like a sort of Grady Mathews :D Must be due to the wizdom you possess :)
 
cuejoey said:
Well when you get some experience come back and talk to us !!! LOL .... man if ever there was a title for Master you are it


No kidding...lol I am not going to even post my credentials after seeing that. My 10 years of experience is like childs play compared to that.
 
Vahmurka said:
Good you posted a picture of yourself Glen, somehow I imagined you like a sort of Grady Mathews :D Must be due to the wizdom you possess :)
I know Grady...that would be an insult...LMAO...j/k
 
Glen,
I hope you will take your suggestion seriously and develop criteria for each level of certification as well as a means of documenting that an applicant has the requisite knowledge and skills to qualify for the level of certification for which they are applying.
 
JimS said:
Glen,
I hope you will take your suggestion seriously and develop criteria for each level of certification as well as a means of documenting that an applicant has the requisite knowledge and skills to qualify for the level of certification for which they are applying.
Jim,
I have pretty much fulfilled all my challenges I set for myself over 20 years ago, with the last few being the DVDs on servicing pool tables, and the last one being setting up a school of billiards. I'm not going to stay in this industry for ever, I'm 50 years old, never set aside money for retirement, because I always planed on cashing out in this industry before I retired by passing on my knowledge, as I'm now planing to do now. I give my loyal support to Diamond to work out the bugs involving distribution of their pool tables with the intent of turning it over to my successors in time, just as I would the Billiards school/academy or whatever it turns out to be, but NOT before I'm done, you can take that to the bank....because I'm planning on it. Before I'm done, the billiards school will be endorsed by the "unemployment department" for retraining unemployed workers that are looking to get into a new profession, as well as being able to apply for a student grant to pay for ones professional schooling for the right to be called a "Billiards Technician". In my dreams, I've envisioned students coming from all over the world to learn this trade to take it back to their counties to continue spreading the knowledge of what it means to be a billiards technician.

I lived in Europe from 1986 to 1983, and knowing what I know now, but didn't back then, their pool tables are just as messed up as ours here are from the lack of training in their own billiards technicians, so this is a world wide problem, not just a USA problem.

Glen
 
Hi Glen,
Hope all is well. Awesome experience. Basement is coming along. Awaiting call back from Brian.
Take care,
Tom
 
OriontheHunter said:
Hi Glen,
Hope all is well. Awesome experience. Basement is coming along. Awaiting call back from Brian.
Take care,
Tom
Hi Tom,

I talked to Brian today, he said your table will be ready for delivery when I get back to the factory, which I'm leaving for on Monday, but it'll be on the second trip back that I deliver your table. Right now, I'm off to Deliver a 9ft ProAm in Tucson, AZ, then back to Vegas to pick up 5 7ft smart tables to drop off in Oklahoma City, then to the factory, pick up tables heading to Washington State, on the way back, stop in New Mexico to pick up a used Diamond 9ft Pro heading for Washington State, stop by Vegas to pick up another Diamond 9ft Pro, install it in Cali, then drop tables in Washington State...oh, I have some tables to recover in Cali as well as I pass through....lol, then off to Big Sky, MT to deliver more Diamond 7ft Smart tables, theeeeennnn...I think back to Diamond to pick up your table, deliver it, then deliver the table to Wisconsin, then to Simonis for DVDs...LOL...for starters...LMAO..sooo, I'll be see'n ya shortly.
 
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marvelous said:
Glen,

With all your travels, any chance your going to pass through the Kansas City area?

Marv
Kansas or Missouri?..LOL...yes, or at least real close on the way to Diamond and back...about 4 times within the next 45 days
 
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Did you deliver and set-up the Cocobolo Diamond sold to a customer in the Cincinnati area?

Sherm
 
cuesmith said:
Did you deliver and set-up the Cocobolo Diamond sold to a customer in the Cincinnati area?

Sherm
Nope, I seldom ever do any work for Diamond east of Saint Louis, MO
 
realkingcobra said:
Picture of who I am, and of one of the 9ft King Cobra coin-op tables I built.
Look, I'm not trying to compare myself to anyone else, so you don't have to worry about that...LOL, I don't expect everyone to be able to move pool tables with as much ease as I do either, I weigh about 270lbs, not to many billiards technicians are as big as I am...LOL. All I'm trying to do is find out just what skills do billiards technicians have today that they work with, and where did you learn them...that's it. From one area to the next, skills are going to be different. In Washington State, we're loaded with 8ft coin-operated pool tables and back when I started recovering pool tables, we only had one pool hall, the 211 club. So, needless to say, I started out on coin-operated pool tables first. Washington State was also the dumping ground for every single coin-op manufacture in the world I swear...LOL I know of 23 different kinds of them, so the knowledge to work on them is going to far exceed the knowledge of most billiards technicians world wide that work on coin-op's. As more and more pool rooms opened, I expanded my knowledge to more and more tables. But, once again, we don't have any Diamond tables up here in pool rooms, no Gabriel's, no Gandy's because we mostly have GC's. Back east, most of the coin-op's are vendor owned, so they recover their own tables for the most part, so for some technicians it's hard to put in the time learning to recover them. I put for the most part, billiards technicians in one of two categories, either they prefer to recover feather striped rails, or they prefer bar tables, but seldom do you ever run into a cross over technician that works on both types of tables with the same prof ency. So, once again, go ahead and post what you know how to do. How can we know what areas are lacking, if we don't know what areas are strong in knowledge.

Glen
 
Glen,
wow where do i start....I have been in the business as long as you have ...1983 was my first year to learn and do tables ...gandy big g ..than gold crowns..then a valley bar tables..I have helped restore antiques(with Joe Newels advise)in 2002 I bought a room that I managed.But I do not have the experince that you have...count me in to help in any way to help produce these DVD'S that need to be out ther. If you ever use intersate 80 through the Quad Cities..stop by for some lunch or supper on me...
miller time billiards. ..Iam stuck on a ervin crane bar table...I need 8ft rails for it....some one exchanged them out with 8ft valley I think..have a safe trip... Terry
 
iapoolguy said:
Glen,
wow where do i start....I have been in the business as long as you have ...1983 was my first year to learn and do tables ...gandy big g ..than gold crowns..then a valley bar tables..I have helped restore antiques(with Joe Newels advise)in 2002 I bought a room that I managed.But I do not have the experince that you have...count me in to help in any way to help produce these DVD'S that need to be out ther. If you ever use intersate 80 through the Quad Cities..stop by for some lunch or supper on me...
miller time billiards. ..Iam stuck on a ervin crane bar table...I need 8ft rails for it....some one exchanged them out with 8ft valley I think..have a safe trip... Terry
I use to build rails for the K tables, if I haven't thrown away the jig, I might be able to help you with the rails...I'll look for them. What's the problem with yours? If it's the way the rails line up with the top rails, sticking up above the laminate, that's easy to fix. Take the rubber sights out of the top of the rails, remove the rail bolts, lift up the rails off the table, loosen the cushions, realine them with the top laminate, re-tighten them, replace the rail cap, tighten all the bolts, replace the sights...you're done. If it's something else, let me know.

Glen

Glen
 
I started in 2001, I had been doing conctrete resurfacing for a pool/spa co. since 94 when they decided to become a Brunswick dealer.
 
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