I'm looking for a cue building lathe

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I think the title says it all. I'm looking for a cue building lathe to start building cues as a hobby can someone tell me what they would recommend and if someone has one for sale.
I have been doing some research of my own, I've seen the Bassel Cue Building lathe. Does anyone have any opinions about it?
 
Hightower is the way to go. Unique is pretty good too from what Ive heard. I will never buy from customcuelathe again. Just my opinion.

Joe
 
Be careful! some people sell lathes that are said to be for cue building but in fact are only good for repairs. Lathes have to be sturdy to build cues on and some are not set up good enough. Hightower makes great products that are user friendly and his customer service is better than anyone else in my opinion. I personally have 2 Porper model B's and I love them both. All inlays are done on my Hightower inlay machine which I also love. Unique also makes top notch products no matter what you get from them. Remember one thing, what you spend on a lathe you will probably spend the same on tooling and fixtures needed for cue building. What you usually get with the lathes will only get you up and going for repairs. Not to mention thousands of dollars in wood that must sit in your shop for at least 2 years before it is ready for use in a cue. Also the time it takes between turnings so it doesn't warp from building it too fast. Good luck with your search.
 
Hightower is the way to go. Unique is pretty good too from what Ive heard. I will never buy from customcuelathe again. Just my opinion.

Joe
Joe
I would never sell you anything ever agian anyways, you are by far the worst and most ungreatful person I have ever had to deal with.
you need to grow up and get a life, maybe practice putting tips on for a change. Thats just my opinion.
 

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Why is that? Is it the quallity? or the service?

Both. He sells machines that aren't tested and he also sells stuff that he knows isn't good quality. Search for sanding mandrels on here and look at some of the stuff he shipped to customers. Then after we all voiced our dissatisfaction with his products, he insults everybody and makes himself out to be a victim. I learned a valuable expensive lesson dealing with him, which is why I would only deal with Chris Hightower or Unique because their products are proven and tested. Also, Hightower builds cues, not just machines, so he knows what he needs his machine to do. Bassel has never made a cue and has no idea what it takes to make a cue. So you can buy from Chris and smile, or buy from Bassel and be treated like a second class citizen. Just my opinion.

Joe
 
Has there been anyone else that has purchased a Bassel lathe? Sniper I can see that your not happy, but your only one person has everyone that has dealt with Bassel had the same experience? I've been talking with a person off line about Bassel, and he says so far his experience has been positive.

I ask because I've been in business before and its not possable to make everyone happy. Either I made a mistake and I try to correct it then the customers expectations are just too high, or they have been a complete ass about the problem that I'm working to correct that I no longer care what they think just because of the way I was treated.
 
Has there been anyone else that has purchased a Bassel lathe? Sniper I can see that your not happy, but your only one person has everyone that has dealt with Bassel had the same experience? I've been talking with a person off line about Bassel, and he says so far his experience has been positive.

I ask because I've been in business before and its not possable to make everyone happy. Either I made a mistake and I try to correct it then the customers expectations are just too high, or they have been a complete ass about the problem that I'm working to correct that I no longer care what they think just because of the way I was treated.

I have 2 of Bassels lathes, Cue Building and Repair lathe. Both work great. In the process of building a 3rd lathe thru him right now. Bassel has taken care of anything I've needed since day 1. Very affordable and very good quality products. Feel free to pm me for more info, even give you my number if you would like to talk.

Richard
 
Has there been anyone else that has purchased a Bassel lathe? Sniper I can see that your not happy, but your only one person has everyone that has dealt with Bassel had the same experience? I've been talking with a person off line about Bassel, and he says so far his experience has been positive.

I ask because I've been in business before and its not possable to make everyone happy. Either I made a mistake and I try to correct it then the customers expectations are just too high, or they have been a complete ass about the problem that I'm working to correct that I no longer care what they think just because of the way I was treated.

I have a Bassel repair lathe with some updated accessories and couldn't be happier. A quality product... you can't go wrong with his lathes.
 
I have no first hand knowledge of Bassel's lathes since I don't own one, but I have had other dealings with Bassel that were less than satisfactory.
Do a search for "sanding mandrels" and read what you find concerning Bassel's mandrels. Notice that I was a supporter of Bassel's from the start.
The mandrels in the photos are mine. They were very poorly made. The machine shop Bassel used did a bad job (a REALLY bad job), even a child could see it.
Look, it could have happened to anyone. That's how it is when you farm things out to machine shops...sometimes they get it wrong. It happens.
BUT BASSEL SENT THEM OUT ANYWAY!!!
Then he slandered me on here (and since then removed the libelous remarks...good idea!) and said I had damaged the product to make him look bad, and that he would NEVER send out something like that. That was when another customer piped in and said that the mandrels he got, and returned, were just like mine, chipped, among other faults.
I'm not going to go through the whole saga again, you can look it up if you want to, but he even admitted he knew they were not right and sent them out anyway. And then tried to blame me. To me, it's plain dishonest. No way to do business.

Concerning Bassel's lathes, I was an early supporter of Bassel's, and had nothing but good words and encouragement for him. I've been around tools and machinery my whole life; it's something I know something about, and I wanted him to succeed. Plus, I needed another lathe; his looked nice and I don't mind taking a chance to support the new kid on the block. I'm funny that way.
But several things put me off about Bassel's lathes. First, the machine kept changing... it was being refined. People complained about this and that, and Bassel made changes to address their issues. But it's not OK to use customers as the subjects of R&D. When a product goes to market the R&D is supposed to be finished.
After the R&D is finished, a design is frozen for the time being and production begins. If there are no problems in the actual manufacturing process, then you can safely advertise them for sale. But this does not seem how Bassel proceeds.
Bassel keeps changing his lathe's design, perhaps for the better, but the development process seems ongoing and the design never gets frozen. The constant revisions, upgrades and tweaks are a good sign, but all this should have happened before production began.
His lathes still look very good to me but I think perhaps more time needs to be spent on R&D. The design has been revised again every time I look at it.

My biggest problem it that Bassel just doesn't seem like a stand-up guy who will step forward and take the heat when things go wrong; he seems to cast himself as a victim when people complain about real problems. For me, it's not the machinery, it's the man.

There are several other people on this forum who make cue lathes and I don't recall reports of anything short of excellent customer service from any of them. I would chose from those.

Robin

Edit- Bassel's style and manner of speech in post#8 pretty much is what you get. I have no idea what Joe's problems with Bassel were, but with that language and attitude (Bassel's)......none for me, thanks.

Nice looking lathe though.
 
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I have no first hand knowledge of Bassel's lathes since I don't own one, but I have had other dealings with Bassel that were less than satisfactory.
Do a search for "sanding mandrels" and read what you find concerning Bassel's mandrels. Notice that I was a supporter of Bassel's from the start.
The mandrels in the photos are mine. They were very poorly made. The machine shop Bassel used did a bad job (a REALLY bad job), even a child could see it.
Look, it could have happened to anyone. That's how it is when you farm things out to machine shops...sometimes they get it wrong. It happens.
BUT BASSEL SENT THEM OUT ANYWAY!!!
Then he slandered me on here (and since then removed the libelous remarks...good idea!) and said I had damaged the product to make him look bad, and that he would NEVER send out something like that. That was when another customer piped in and said that the mandrels he got, and returned, were just like mine, chipped, among other faults.
I'm not going to go through the whole saga again, you can look it up if you want to, but he even admitted he knew they were not right and sent them out anyway. And then tried to blame me. To me, it's plain dishonest. No way to do business.

Concerning Bassel's lathes, I was an early supporter of Bassel's, and had nothing but good words and encouragement for him. I've been around tools and machinery my whole life; it's something I know something about, and I wanted him to succeed. Plus, I needed another lathe; his looked nice and I don't mind taking a chance to support the new kid on the block. I'm funny that way.
But several things put me off about Bassel's lathes. First, the machine kept changing... it was being refined. People complained about this and that, and Bassel made changes to address their issues. But it's not OK to use customers as the subjects of R&D. When a product goes to market the R&D is supposed to be finished.
After the R&D is finished, a design is frozen for the time being and production begins. If there are no problems in the actual manufacturing process, then you can safely advertise them for sale. But this does not seem how Bassel proceeds.
Bassel keeps changing his lathe's design, perhaps for the better, but the development process seems ongoing and the design never gets frozen. The constant revisions, upgrades and tweaks are a good sign, but all this should have happened before production began.
His lathes still look very good to me but I think perhaps more time needs to be spent on R&D. The design has been revised again every time I look at it.

My biggest problem it that Bassel just doesn't seem like a stand-up guy who will step forward and take the heat when things go wrong; he seems to cast himself as a victim when people complain about real problems. For me, it's not the machinery, it's the man.

There are several other people on this forum who make cue lathes and I don't recall reports of anything short of excellent customer service from any of them. I would chose from those.

Robin

Edit- Bassel's style and manner of speech in post#8 pretty much is what you get. I have no idea what Joe's problems with Bassel were, but with that language and attitude......none for me, thanks.

Nice looking lathe though.

Robin
You almost covered the whole history between us, you you worded it in a very professional and fair manner, for that I thank you, the only thing I would add is that I sent you a full refund for the mandrels once I got them back. It was wrong of me the accuse you of damaging them, I owned up to the poor finish, but the chip on the face remains a mystery, I believe you didn't damage them and after going through all the extra sets of mandrels made by that guy, I have concluded that he might have over heated the carbide during soldering, and that could have caused the face to chip, but If I would have seen a chip prior to packaging it, I would have not shipped it, the past is in the past and its over with, the whole situation could have been handled better on both ends.
Every body is entitled to their opinion and the truth of the matter, you just can't please everyone, God knows I have tried. As for my machines line up. The only changes made in the last year are the new bindless carriage, heavy duty gear rack and slight update to the H-channel to make it compatible with the newest model The Beast ( supported linear rails cue lathe)
All to which any of my existing customers can upgrade to, which is always offered at a high discount rate for the upgrade.
Regards
 
Joe
I would never sell you anything ever agian anyways, you are by far the worst and most ungreatful person I have ever had to deal with.
you need to grow up and get a life, maybe practice putting tips on for a change. Thats just my opinion.

That sure looks like a really nice Cue Lathe
 
Might be your lucky day.

I have the Unique Products Cue Maker with the Taper attachment so it becomes Taper shaper. The Auto Carrage attachment, both the carrage and tool post DRO, compression die for threading tennon Magnetic Trim indicator and magnetic trim indicator.

http://uniqueinc.com/cue_maker

My reason for thinking of selling is I have bought a multitude of Condos in Port Saint Lucie Florida. The Mets just rented the larger place I was planning on using for the season. I may have to buy a new place as everything is rented.

Give me a good offer or I might keep it or Ebay it.
Thanks,
Tom
 
Might be your lucky day.

I have the Unique Products Cue Maker with the Taper attachment so it becomes Taper shaper. The Auto Carrage attachment, both the carrage and tool post DRO, compression die for threading tennon Magnetic Trim indicator and magnetic trim indicator.

http://uniqueinc.com/cue_maker

My reason for thinking of selling is I have bought a multitude of Condos in Port Saint Lucie Florida. The Mets just rented the larger place I was planning on using for the season. I may have to buy a new place as everything is rented.

Give me a good offer or I might keep it or Ebay it.
Thanks,
Tom

Do you have a price?
 
I am thinking $3,500.oo, $3,600.00 or I could put it on ebay and get $4,000.00.

I am going to see what the next day or 2 is going to bring with all the renters and see what I am left with and how much room. I might do tips and ferrules.

Thanks
 
I am thinking $3,500.oo, $3,600.00 or I could put it on ebay and get $4,000.00.

I am going to see what the next day or 2 is going to bring with all the renters and see what I am left with and how much room. I might do tips and ferrules.

Thanks

No. That's well over priced, when you can get the Cue Maker and taper attachment for $400 more than what your asking.
 
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