Importance of chalking when using a jump cue?

CreeDo

CreeDo

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I don't really hear much about this... chalk accelerates friction.
It's harder to jump with less friction (new cloth, polished balls, etc.)

So shouldn't I be chalking the crap out of the jump cue?
Seems to me every time I try to just jump without chalk, it's a horrible miscue.
But I suck at jumping anyway. I see some guys who don't bother and they
seem to jump fine.

Can you jump just fine without chalk?
How do I get it to stick? The tip is super hard and shiny... I don't even know
if I could scuff it or pick it like a normal tip. But as-is, it barely holds chalk.
 
I chalk when jumping, even though it's a plastic tip hehe. Who knows if it helps any. You may be hitting it too thin maybe? Try jumping but move the tip forward a mm or so.
 
Hi CreedDo.... I use some 80-100 grit sand paper to rub briskly over my Jump Cue Tip, to lightly score the surface of the tip, so chalk will have a surface to adhere to.

Works for me...
 
I believe chalk is necessary. You have the right idea about the friction. I use one of those 'pick' things to rough mine up. I hold the cue tight and the tool tight and really stab into the tip with a slight twist. When I am done, it is really rough and hold the chalk very well. I only do this about evey 15-20 shots so in the last 5 years, I've done it twice...I too am not a good jumper...can get over the ball and make a good hit, but where the OB goes after the hit is anybodies guess.

Good luck, rough up that tip and use plenty of chalk.

L8R...Ken

PS, maybe some of hang-the-9's advise too.
 
Joe blachburn made concentric circles on my leather one, the phenolic schledgehammer one, well ain't no scuffing gonna happen there...
 
What if they wanted to draw the cue ball after the jump? I don't think it can happen without chalk. So, I don't believe chalk is needed for the actual jump, just for position after the jump is made.
 
I'm an adequate jumper. I always chalk when jumping/breaking.

I never heard of scuffing a phenolic tip (and obviously never have).

I don't miscue and it jumps good (Poison VX2.9). Had it for @ 3 years.

Is it recommended to scuff or pick? :confused:

Heck, I don't know if people ever replace a phenolic tip.

Good thread Creedo!
 
CreeDo said:
Can you jump just fine without chalk?
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I always chalk for jumps and breaks. Every time. You won't get full coverage like on a leather tip, but I believe the chalk that is there does help, especially if you're either going for some spin (like a jump-masse or jump-draw), or if your stroke isn't quite on target.

Yes, you can jump without chalk, but it leaves you with less options and less tolerance for off-center mistakes. Breaking without chalk would seem to be even less tolerant.

I also like to see the contact spot on the tip to see how accurately I actually hit the jump or break. If you don't rotate the cue after your shot, you can deduce where you hit the CB by flipping the image of the spot on the tip. For example, if you accidentally hit the break with bottom left, your tip will have a spot on the top right. This is much easier to see on a jump/break than on a regular playing cue precisely because the harder tips won't hold as much chalk.

This reminds me of a good practice tool that I like to revisit every now and then. Play regular pool, but do not use chalk. It encourages me to play shape closer to center ball and reevaluate my tendency to overuse English.
 
I know the Dr Popper cue gets over balls extremely close together and he recommends not chalking.

I have always chalked when jumping, but I have not tried one of his cues yet.
 
I have been using a Cannon with a phenolic tip. I do chalk it,,but I'm not sure it does any good.
I have wiped the chalk off clean and jumped with it before and it jumps fine! But I usually chalk when jumping. Never really give a test without it. I figure chalk is cheap and its a habit,,why risk it without it??
 
I recall long ago I read someone recommending NOT to chalk for jump shots. I forgot the reasoning of the columnist (as well as his name). It might have been something about cue ball leaving the tip sooner and/or easier...
My experience tells me that if I'm going to hit the cue ball in dead center I could do without chalking up, regardless of the tip type (hard leather or phenolic). But at the same time I fear of a possible miscue (especially with glossy measles Aramith cue ball + phenolic tip interaction) so I chalk up - but not that thoroughly as with my playing cue. Just a couple of touches to ensure some chalk is there.
 
Does chalk go into the plastic at all? If not, it would be worse to use it, it creates a loose powder on the tip that would just slide off on contact, creating less friction. A bit like using tape on a dusty surface, the tape just sticks to the dust and comes off easily.

In a leather tip you have all those tiny holes the chalk sticks to, so when it contacts the ball, it grips the tip.

I think I'll quit my chalking, but I may roughen up the phenolic tip a bit.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Does chalk go into the plastic at all? If not, it would be worse to use it, it creates a loose powder on the tip that would just slide off on contact, creating less friction. A bit like using tape on a dusty surface, the tape just sticks to the dust and comes off easily.

In a leather tip you have all those tiny holes the chalk sticks to, so when it contacts the ball, it grips the tip.

I think I'll quit my chalking, but I may roughen up the phenolic tip a bit.
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Makes sense to me. My phenolic tip is as hard as the cue ball and about as smooth. Chalk just rests on it and can be wiped completely clean with one swipe of a finger.
But I still chalk it!!
 
Plastic? Yeah , plastic is pretty worthless anyway....

Phenolic will certainly impregnate with chalk , more so with occasional simple scuffing with sand paper

I def chalk before jumping, only benefit to not chalking I 'may' see, maybe....is really really close jumps where a miscue might actually help get the cue out of the way. Most of those jumps end up being illegal jumps anyway however rarely get called as such.
 
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