Important One Pocket Rule Dispute

I have again found myself in a game of one pocket, and again the game was the subject of controversy.

I am leading 7-4. My opponent has just scratched. The ball I wish to hit is approximately 5% past the headstring, and 95% behind it. Just a sliver of the ball is over the line.

I suggest that I be able to shoot this ball because we had not established any rules regarding it before the game started. After lobbying with a few others, I am not allowed to shoot the ball. I even offer to flip for it, but no deal.

And would you believe, my opponent INTENTIONALLY spotted the 9-ball, because he thought it would give me the most difficulty (of course I made it).

So, do you think my case has any merit?

No, the base of the object ball has to be over the head string. Atleast thats the way I've always played........for the last 50+ years.

John

John
 
No, the base of the object ball has to be over the head string. Atleast thats the way I've always played........for the last 50+ years.

John

John

John, if the base of an object ball is on the head string and the shooter has ball in hand behind the head string, that object ball is playable (under WPA rules).
 
John, if the base of an object ball is on the head string and the shooter has ball in hand behind the head string, that object ball is playable (under WPA rules).

Man, thats a tough one. Dont know anything about WPA rules never used them. Besides that, in 1P you dont get ball in hand.

John
 
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You seem to have a lot of "situations" come up, which end up being you know you are dead wrong as the answer.

Truthfully I know that I had the short end of this argument, but it adds some excitement to the game if the rules are challenged once in a while.
 
To ascertain whether, or not, a ball is in front of, or behind the head string, one only needs to look at the shadow of the ball in question.
If this occurs on February second, the ball is deemed unplayable for the next six weeks. Glad I could help. :smile:
 
Hey everyone - just started reading the forums again after a few years - maybe it is time to hit a couple balls in the near future. :)

We always used full ball across the head string playing 1P - simply because it is very difficult to SEE the base of a ball or determine if the middle is on, above, or behind the line (if you use anything to measure, you would hit the ball).

Whereas - if you use WHOLE ball, you can lay your cue across the table (without moving balls) and slowly move it so that a straight edge of the cue lies across the center of the diamonds at the head string points - makes it easy to see if the ball is a mm across or if it would hit the cue.

Even saw another old time 1P player keep a string in their case to stretch across the diamonds as well - center of diamond to center of diamond in cases like that.

Know it not necessarily the RULE, but it certainly avoids ambiguity and arguments.
 
How is this an "important rule dispute?" There's an unambiguous rule on point that was stated by pretty much everyone right away. The only dispute is whether you follow the world standardized rules or you make shit up as you go along.
 
How is this an "important rule dispute?" There's an unambiguous rule on point that was stated by pretty much everyone right away. The only dispute is whether you follow the world standardized rules or you make shit up as you go along.

It's the second one. ChrisBanks goes by the second one.
 
It's the second one. ChrisBanks goes by the second one.

As mentioned before, I would have shot the ball on the spot even if allowed to shoot the ball on the line. Also, you make no mention of the fact that I was sharked by having the 9-ball intentionally spotted because it was thought to be the ball I would have the most trouble with.

And I am not too appreciative of the red rep given by you for no reason.
 
The fact that you would have shot the spot shot even if they would have given in almost makes it worse!

You stopped everything in the game, wasted other people's time, even proposed a coin flip knowing full well you were just being difficult.

Just like the way you are on here. So it sounds like the way most of the posters on here feel about you is probably how the people in the pool hall feel only they probably hold it in more since they are in person. Hope you learn to change bro.
 
As mentioned before, I would have shot the ball on the spot even if allowed to shoot the ball on the line. Also, you make no mention of the fact that I was sharked by having the 9-ball intentionally spotted because it was thought to be the ball I would have the most trouble with.

And I am not too appreciative of the red rep given by you for no reason.

I gave you a reason. I am not too appreciative of the inattentiveness on your part.

By arguing the rule while intending to shoot the spot shot, you have shown your appreciation for starting pointless disputes. I thought you'd appreciate the rep for the same reason.
 
The fact that you would have shot the spot shot even if they would have given in almost makes it worse!

You stopped everything in the game, wasted other people's time, even proposed a coin flip knowing full well you were just being difficult.

Just like the way you are on here. So it sounds like the way most of the posters on here feel about you is probably how the people in the pool hall feel only they probably hold it in more since they are in person. Hope you learn to change bro.

You fail to mention that I was sharked on the same shot. You won't address that issue, but you are quick to put me in a negative light any way you can.
 
You fail to mention that I was sharked on the same shot. You won't address that issue, but you are quick to put me in a negative light any way you can.

Who cares what ball he spots? Just pull out your calculator and split the pocket!
 
Man, thats a tough one. Dont know anything about WPA rules never used them. Besides that, in 1P you dont get ball in hand.

John

From Official One Pocket Rules on OnePocket.org:

6.3 Following either a pocket scratch or the cue ball jumping the table, the incoming player has cue ball in hand behind the head string. Following any other foul, the cue ball is played where it lies.​
 
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