in market for a new jump cue

FWIW, I bought a Stealth jumper and liked the design and look but wasn't overwhelmed with the hit, solid but not spectacular.

Got a Predator Air for free, I like the flexibility of the 3 pieces and the hit. I don't practice jumps much, prefer to kick, but for obvious applications I use it decently.

My buddy has the Poison one, he likes it.

Would love to practice more and adopt a more sidearm motion like Shane and others. If I did, I have also heard great things about the popular cues mentioned here (Lomax, Jacoby, etc.) and would definitely have to try some.

Scott
 
Jump cues

I carry 2 jump cues why? well the jester is a three piece jump cue yes you have to have a very accurate stroke with this cue its not for a beginer
It is for extreme jumps close to a ball. it gets high and jumps short you can place a dime between a ball and jump it. you stroke it using the dart method.

2nd a 14mm jump cue for accurate cross table jumps and longer jumps of course if you do have to practise jumping so you feel confident with each attempt
 
twal said:
Wow, I did not know that about the Jester.
I used a Predator Air and really like it because of the light weight.
Does anone know of any orther production model that is light weight like the Jester?
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The Dr Popper is one that comes to mind. It's about 4oz, which is about the weight of the Jester with just one of the butt sections. It used to be made by McDermott, but Mark Dimick sells them on his own now I think http://www.drpopperjumpq.com/

Dale Chilton's flying eagle model is also great. These are twin-tip models. Most are around 5oz (I have a number of these and they don't seem that consistent). Troy (koinkid) on here may have a few. He has some listed on ebay. I like these because you can take the short end, put it on a standard uni-loc butt, and now you also have a heavy jumper that can go long distance and still stay on the table. I have one for sale with a full cue, but you can get an idea of what it looks like. http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=219440

Back to the OP, I couldn't get a handle of jumping with the Pechauer at SBE this year. I didn't spend a whole lot of time with it though. It's very front-weighted which is different from a lot of other cues. I was more impressed with the Poison and picked up one of those sometime in the last year or so. Another cheap option that's great is the Lucasi jump cue, the wooden one, not the hybrid.
 
JB Cases said:
That is because the Jester belongs in the category of "ultralights" which makes them great for close up jumps but hard to control. Any jump cue that is lighter than the cueball or very close to it will have this issue.
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Thats interesting info, Jester jump cue mixed results when shotting with pendulum/dart method make sense to me now. :)
 
Just got and tried my new Tadpole. It weighs 10.5 oz. It jumps very easy, and pretty darn accurate. I like it...

Pete
 
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dr9ball said:
You might also consider the Stealth 3 piece jump cue. I have one and it's a good cue in my opinion.
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Ill second that opinion on the stealth. I picked one up on fleabay and i must say it works very well. I can jump from one ball away and with the extension it also works well on the long jumps. I was really impressed for a less expensive cue at around 100 dollaers new, and being a 3 piece is a big plus making it good for a greater range of jumps.
 
the stealth is very nice, though i found changing the tip made it better. the leather water buffalo tip that comes with it is OK, but it's not as hard as some of the other jump tips.

i think the stealth jump cue isn't being made anymore?
 
I have owned a Predator Air, currently own a Dr. Popper, and a 3 piece Players.

I don't use the Dr. Popper unless I'm messing around showing people how close it can jump. I sold the Predator because I hated the way it felt.

I still use the 3 piece Players, and it performs wonderfully. I break with it, and it does well, and it jumps even better. It's fantastic. I'll never get rid of it, lol. Dart stroke works well and pendulum works well.
 
Please keep in mind that reality and advertising about cues are 2 different worlds. A break/jump cue will never offer the best of both. I'll not go in details why.
As a jump cue, out of all alternatives, PECHAUER is the top choice as jump cue.
BUNJEE and other like that are not in the same league, no way. To be sure about it, try on your own before buying and you will see the difference.
Second choice will be VX JUMP, third will be LUCASI HYBRID AIR HOG, fourth will be BUNJEE.
I hope it helps.
 
If you really want to evaluate your jump cue,

then keep stats on your jumps. I would suggest:

jumps closer than 5":
attempts:
hit the object ball:
made the object ball:

Jumps 5" or more:
attempts:
hit the object ball:
made the object ball:

With a breakdown like this you can develop primary efficiency rate (hit object ball / attempts) and secondary efficiency rate (made object ball / attempts).

By the way, you can have the same type stats for your kicking too.
 
GAVI said:
Please keep in mind that reality and advertising about cues are 2 different worlds. A break/jump cue will never offer the best of both. I'll not go in details why.
As a jump cue, out of all alternatives, PECHAUER is the top choice as jump cue.
BUNJEE and other like that are not in the same league, no way. To be sure about it, try on your own before buying and you will see the difference.
Second choice will be VX JUMP, third will be LUCASI HYBRID AIR HOG, fourth will be BUNJEE.
I hope it helps.
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Since I'm thinking about buying a Lomax jump cue, where does that rank in your list?

One of the difficulties in evaluating different jump cues has to be in not having access to the various jump cues to try out before you buy it. I know a lot of people here rave over the Lomax jump cues as being the best. Is it a good idea for me to buy it based upon other people's recommendations without having tried it out beforehand?
 
GAVI said:
Please keep in mind that reality and advertising about cues are 2 different worlds. A break/jump cue will never offer the best of both. I'll not go in details why.
As a jump cue, out of all alternatives, PECHAUER is the top choice as jump cue.
BUNJEE and other like that are not in the same league, no way. To be sure about it, try on your own before buying and you will see the difference.
Second choice will be VX JUMP, third will be LUCASI HYBRID AIR HOG, fourth will be BUNJEE.
I hope it helps.
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perhaps this should end with in my opinion as i am sure others will disagree with your rankings, i do agree that a jump break is not the best choice however but may be ok for some people. I did a search and see that the pechauer shows it is available in weights from 18.5 to 21 ounces so that would not be my first choice thats way to heavy to be a great jumper.
 
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GAVI said:
Please keep in mind that reality and advertising about cues are 2 different worlds. A break/jump cue will never offer the best of both. I'll not go in details why.
As a jump cue, out of all alternatives, PECHAUER is the top choice as jump cue.
BUNJEE and other like that are not in the same league, no way. To be sure about it, try on your own before buying and you will see the difference.
Second choice will be VX JUMP, third will be LUCASI HYBRID AIR HOG, fourth will be BUNJEE.
I hope it helps.
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What makes the Pechauer so much better?

To me it looks like a knockoff of the Jacoby Jumper which is itself derived from the Jumping James jump cues that James (forgot his last name) designed and had Jacoby build for him. So what makes it better than either of those two.

You say not in the same league, with emphasis on "no way". So if a Bunjee Jumper is not in the same league tell us how you quantify that using real measures?

You basically are telling us all that if someone else claims the Bunjee is better then that's just advertising and hype but the Pechauer is the real deal right?

And this is because Pechauer has done what to make their "better"?

I am curious because I am intimately familiar with ALL the effort that people like Ned Morris, Steve Lomax, Tom Simpson, Mike Gulyassy, Dale Chilton and others have POURED into refining their jump cues to perform at the highest level possible.

So I don't really think that Pechauer has done MORE than these folks. But I'd sure be interested to know the data on just how far ahead of all of them that the Pechauer is. If you can't produce it then can we simply add your statement to the other OPINIONS given by everyone else in this thread?
 
PoolSharkAllen said:
Since I'm thinking about buying a Lomax jump cue, where does that rank in your list?

One of the difficulties in evaluating different jump cues has to be in not having access to the various jump cues to try out before you buy it. I know a lot of people here rave over the Lomax jump cues as being the best. Is it a good idea for me to buy it based upon other people's recommendations without having tried it out beforehand?
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How about you consider the experience factor? Steve Lomax has been working with Bunjee for 10 years. We used to send him cues which he would tweak and make "better". In that time he experimented with tons of tips shaft configurations, balance points etc....which developed into what he now makes under his own name.

Given that experience and the fact that Steve is also a player himself and someone who has access to great players who use his cues by choice (when they have the choice of ANY jump cues) I'd say that you are not in a bad spot to buy a jump cue sight unseen from Steve.

Disclaimer: Steve is my friend and a hell of a great guy so I am naturally biased that way. But he is also freaking meticulous and a top notch craftsman.
 
Whatever jumper the OP decides to get, make sure it has a SAMSARA jump/break tip on it.
 
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Lomax jumps are great.

I have a Lomax jump cue and it is so easy to use. Try, it. If you don't like it you will easily be able to sell it. He earned his reputation and is a gentlemen.
 
SOULHASSORROW said:
Whatever jumper the OP decides to get, make sure it has a SAMSARA jump/break tip on it.
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Why?

I have a friend who has the Samsara and he said it sucks for close jumps where there is less than a foot's width between the balls. I haven't tried one so I have no idea. But I can't imagine that it would be any better than a super hard phenolic or phenolic/leather mix.

My friend did say that for longer jump shots it works great.
 
It's a great layered j/b tip and takes chalk very well. Phenolic is great, but I had a hard time keeping chalk on it. Just my opinion.
 
How does the bunjee jump compare to the original lucasi jump cue? I like the weight of the lucasi but am wondering how others compare.
 
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