info about Brunswick cue with Pool player logo above the name

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I am interested in buying a Brunswick cue, and I am curious if they are good players cues (and good quality)?

The cue says Brunswick in the butt (below the Irish linen), and there is a pool player logo above the Brunswick name?

Has anyone ever shot with one of these cues before?

Are they good quality cues (and worth much at all).

I am guessing that the retail cost would have been very cheap for a plain Brunswick cue without points, but do they hit good?

Thanks
 
Thanks for your reply. I know it is not a Joss (I do not think), because I remember what the Brunswick/Joss cues logo looked like because I owned a Brunswick Joss cue when I was a kid (and it is a completely different logo). So Brunswick allowed asian cue makers to put their logo on their cues? Thanks for your help.
 
justinb386 said:
Thanks for your reply. I know it is not a Joss (I do not think), because I remember what the Brunswick/Joss cues logo looked like because I owned a Brunswick Joss cue when I was a kid (and it is a completely different logo). So Brunswick allowed asian cue makers to put their logo on their cues? Thanks for your help.
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Yes, Brunswick contracted Asian cue makers and put their logo on the cues. They didn't "allow" it, they did it quite intentionally.

Even some of the later Willie Hoppe cues were Asian.

When Brunswick stopped making the veneered Hoppe blanks they contracted with Schmelke I think. Then they went with an Asian manufacturer around 1970 (I could check the exact date but it was around there), those has numbers stamped on the butt and shaft near the joint.

So....it could be almost anything and of any quality really. Hard to say. Best to see pics.
 
Okay, so the Brunswick cues have not been made in america since before 1970 (or around that time)? I am guessing that is must be an Asian made cue, because I know it is not one of the older ones. Thanks.
 
justinb386 said:
Okay, so the Brunswick cues have not been made in america since before 1970 (or around that time)? I am guessing that is must be an Asian made cue, because I know it is not one of the older ones. Thanks.
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Some of the later Brunswicks were made by JOSS and a good number were made by Schmelke after that time.

As for the Asian Brunswicks, some of them were made by Adam. A few even had both the Adam logo and the Brunswick logo on them. They are hard to find. And Adam cues are good cues.

There may have been other US makers involved as well.

Many of them were made in Asia after that time, but not all, it's not a cut off date.

So, as I said, it's best to see pics.
 
Is this the type of Brunswick you were referring to? I would also love to know if this is a decent shot.
 

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Yeah, That is the logo of the Brunswick cue I wanted. So, it is probably a cheap asian made cue (not adams). I know that Japan is considered Asia, but I am not concerned about cues from Japan, because I know that Adams are much higher quality than other Asian made cues (other than Mezz I think). I know that Mezz may be higher quality, but I am going way off subject (lol). So, back to the original question as to if it is a good quality cue? Thanks.
 
If that's it, then yes, it is most likely a very low end cue. Not Adam, Scmelke, or JOSS, etc....
 
justinb386 said:
Yeah, That is the logo of the Brunswick cue I wanted. So, it is probably a cheap asian made cue (not adams). I know that Japan is considered Asia, but I am not concerned about cues from Japan, because I know that Adams are much higher quality than other Asian made cues (other than Mezz I think). I know that Mezz may be higher quality, but I am going way off subject (lol). So, back to the original question as to if it is a good quality cue? Thanks.
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I would rate them as good starter cues, certainly not the caliber of a Schon, McDermott, Heubler or even an old Meucci. Cues vary widely and one may be better than another. As for value I'm guessing in the $75-100 dollar range for a good used one.
 
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I would rate them as good starter cues, certainly not the caliber of a Schon, McDermott, Heubler or even an old Meucci. Cues vary widely and one may be better than another. As for value I'm guessing in the $75-100 dollar range for a good used one.
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I'm glad to see somebody else be realistic about such cues. Too often people say a certain cue is kindling...then I'll see it sell for $100 or $150. Some of them even sell for double their original retail.

Some of them are worth that and more, but some are not. The range you give is probably realistic for the open market for a typical example is very good condition.

Some with that butt cap and logo were ramin wood I think and those cues drop off even the low end of my spectrum of what should actually be used at a table.

Anyway, yes....they can be good starter cues. A good old Dufferin would probably be better though and can be had in that price range.
 
justinb386 said:
Does anyone know of the names of some of these Asian production cue company's (that may have made the Brunswick cue)? I am guessing that the cues in the link below are not from the same Asian maker?

http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/brunswick/brunswick_caras-mataya.htm

They look higher end to me, but I have no idea. Thanks for your replies.
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There are probably a variety of manufacturers that were involved. I would bet Kao-Kao is one of them. Other than that I don't know. Honestly, most of them you probably never heard of.

It's like asking who made your laptop. Dell, HP, etc don't make laptops. The ODMs (not OEMs) make laptops...then companies put their name on them. You have probably never heard of the ODMs.


By the way, the page you link to are JOSS and maybe McDermott cues. The JOSS displayed are the Jimmy Caras series.

http://www.josscues.com/cue_archives/Archive/html/brunswick_html/jimmy_caras_series.html


I linked to that brochure archive earlier yet you say you had no idea who made the cues in your link. I really encourage you to review the links and pics and brochures on your own as much as possible and to research on your own as much as possible. :smile:


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Okay, I should have looked at the cues in your link, I thought that the Brunswick cues that were made my Joss only had 1 logo (that I knew about), but now I see that the JC line of cues have a different Brunswick logo on them. I wish that I could find a website that has pictures of the Brunswick logo cue that has a pool player logo above it. The rubber bumper looks exactly like the rubber bumper that is in Viking cues, and the cue is 58.5 inches long (if that means anything).
 
Yes, it is a "mushroom" bumper very similar to Viking. But They aren't Viking as far as I know.
 
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